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[DT.]

1.What is the point? That you personally don't care about Cyprus, and therefore if Cyprus is attacked you wouldn't want Greece to support us?



2.This couldn't be further than the truth. About Cyprus who decides are Cypriots.

1.Yes,that is exactly what i am saying.Why should Greece be legally obligated to military intervention in Cyprus?That only deepens the divitions that is caused to the Greek Cypriot society.

I might accept help on humanitarian bases(food,medical help etc) considering Cyprus is an ally in the EU and NATO.That is all Greece should be eligible to offer.The same off course goes for Turkey.

But the main issue for me personally is not Cyprus but Greece.I dont see why a Greek citizen should be obligated to offer assistance to an independend sovereign country???Why should i be obligated to go to war protecting something that has nothing to do with the sovereign interests of Greece???I mean give me a credible reason....just one.What do I have to do with Cyprus?Or what does a Turkish citizen have to do with Cyprus???


2. RoC needs Greece.It is only normal a small country to be politically dependant on its ''protector''.So yes,the Cypriots might have a saying on whom they elect but i doubt it that they have a saying on what is really going on in RoC.Greece does,it is my firm belief that if Greece doesnt abandon its colonialism pocilies then the Cypriots would continue to suffer and live in a divided island.

Had you said that you'de be happy for a mutual withdrew of gaurantees from both turkey and greece only then i'd be agreeing with you. Unfortunately you've said you' accept a unilateral withdrawal of just greece even if turkey remains. This to me is a cop out and betrayal.

Secondly, there is absolutely no chance that anything that gets done here has been decided to by greece. The tpap govt if its done one thing is prove to the world how a cypriot govt can run its own policies and continue to piss Greece and its gently-gently diplomacy policy its trying to follow.

Karamanlis and Bakoyianni have been placed ina difficult position in the EU many times the past 4 years due to Cyprus's actions.

Thirdly, Cyprus is not in NATO.

OK OK DT! You are also cool!

tsk Stop ..stop! you're embarrasing me....

[Simon]

[quote][quote]Hahaha.You have shot me down??Ela re.Please dont make laugh.You prooved nothing but how biggot you are.The minority name is crutial element.Whatever Greece propagates i dont care the name is Muslim.

About Greece having the international law on its side...well, unless you are a judge in the Hague court,i take your claims as bullshit,horseshit etc.I provided a neutral link naming the violations as disputes.Legally both countries are covered.Proove me wrong from a neutral source


I told you we are doing rounds bsc you wanna have an argument.My choice of words is perfect while you have discredited nothing.If you want to descredit me find one quote about the name of the minority and about Macedonian's gov monopoly over the name.
It is only bla bla bla bla to post something i believe.About Thessaloniki you are boring...i told you Thessaloniki has the same population of ethnic Macedonians as the whole country of Macedonia.If not more(if you add the metropolitan area of Thessaloniki).

Twist the words of a fellow GC not mine.Find me the quotes i asked you and then will do the real debate until then save your bullshit for the belivers. [/quote]




HAHAHA, even DT is picking up on your pathetic inconsistencies. The name is Muslim you repeat, and repeat and repeat. I have clearly answered you about this, and you completely avoid the issue, by repeating, 'the name is Muslim.' Great argument, they must be terrible then.

Greece will go to the Hague you cretin, the point is Turkey will not! Perhaps this has to do with the fact Turkey knows it will lose? And therefore, only wants bilateral talks. Greece clearly has international law on its side, because it is legal to expand to 12 n.miles. DT already clearly explained this to you. However, because it is in Greece's favour, you choose to ignore it like the pathetic fool you are! I do not need to post any links - The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea speaks for itself. Turkey is not a member of this convention (surprisingly ); and yet applies its 12 nm limit to its other seas! Pathetic hyprocrisy, that only fools could overlook! All this is about is Turkey trying to dominate and Aegean, with its threats of casus belli; nothing more.

Your choice of words is perfect!! Well that really does make me laugh. My five year-old Niece could do better! You should really leave the issue of Thessaloniki, I have already showed you up on that one before. Do you want me to show you your first quote, considering that you are persisting on this issue?

[Simon]

[quote]Spare me the bullshit by saying you that you do not consider Macedonians as Macedonians,what did you mean?that Macedonia is chinese?Off course you meant what your little propaganda dictates you.That Macedonia is Greek.

I told you,play with a toy or something not words.[/quote]


I do not consider them as THE Macedonians; the modern day successor of the ancient Macedonians, as their propaganda claims. If they qualified their name to Slavo-Macedonians, I could accept this. Where did I say that Macedonia is only Greek? You really do need to learn how to read and process information.

[Simon]

[quote]That is what i call wishfull thinking of brainwashed GC.

I d even class it as romantic thoughts about your perceived motherland...It reminds me something of the 1821 era.Hahaha.Do GC actually believe this shit???

As if Greece is a guarantator for Cyprus.Greece is a guarantator for Greece.Greece will sell your people out at an eye blink.Greece did it once she is not gonna hesitate to do it again.[/quote]


Just more bollocks from a complete idiot. Greece IS a guarantor. Not my opinion, it is a FACT. So stop with your bull-shit. Greece as a nation did not sell Cyprus out before, the junta did; who were unelected by the Greek nation. Completely different set of circumstances to today.

[paliometoxo]

What about that?

What about Greece and Turkey leaving Cyprus alone?Once and for good??

Why the need for constant intervention from Greece and Turkey?

The real victims are the Cypriot people both the GC and TC.

As a Greek citizen i no longer want Greece to have anything to do with Cyprus.All we manage to do is to create problems and divition to the Cypriot people.I want Greece to be legally absent from any future decision making in Cyprus.I say enough is enough.Greece's public is tired by Greece's policy on Cyprus.We the citizens of Greece dont want anymore our country in Cyprus.Why should a Greek citizen or a Turkish citizen be caught in this?What do i have in Cyprus?Nothing....Only the Cypriot have rights on the island.

Why self identify as GreekC or TurkishC?Just Cypriot with a Greek or Turkish background....big deal...

i agree 100%

[denizaksulu]

Good morning SN. It was rude of me not to thank your the valuable information and maps you have provided on this forum re:the Eagean. It just shows that being all powerful is not enough. One needs to be on the right side in a war and you find yourself gifted with hundreds of 'Cuban missiles' stuck in your throat. I hope Turkey will learn her lesson from this. Having good politicians are as important as having good generals.
Good luck (you will need a lot of it) with your battles with the Cypriots.
Regards
DA

[alexISS]

I just love the Greekos when they take it out on each other, they can be so funny!

And I love your arrogant style, the useless ironic comments and your "know-all" attitude... all traits of a class C debater

You must still be in pain from a past confrontation... ...but the last thing you need right now is to open up another front... and especially like marching into Russia!

Pain.... no. But it was definately an amusing "confrontation", certainly that post of yours will be reminded to you from time to time, for old times' sake.

[alexISS]

While your traits,are class A?Take a hike,Alexis.

Go play your willy re-assuring your self that Greece is better than everyone else.Maybe that way,viagra wont be of importance to you.

Ρε ΜΑΛ*ΚΑ μην πετάγεσαι συνέχεια σαν την π*ρδη. Ξέρω ότι σε τρώει ο κ*λος σου αλλά σταμάτα το ξύσιμο, δεν είναι αυτό που του λείπει και σε τρώει...

[SN]

relax people i was on holidays a few days.When fully rested i will answer,specially the BS Simon is saying,trying to find a word here and there to twist everything i say.At least i was laughing about his bullshit on Macedonia.Yet again.Save it Simon,go say something about Cyprus,i grew up with this bullshit ''Macedonia is Greek'' moto

[Simon]

I was done with this thread ages ago....all you will do is repeat what you have already said no doubt, so save your bollocks for somebody who cares, because I won't be reading it.