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[alexISS]

I just love the Greekos when they take it out on each other, they can be so funny!

And I love your arrogant style, the useless ironic comments and your "know-all" attitude... all traits of a class C debater

[alexISS]

...... Na mi se vrisw xana e?To ehw kanei se tosa forum.Papse na asxolise me oti lew...

Na papseis na les malakies.

Wow so SN systematically spreads his bullshit since he participates in many forums... well thank god then that there are guys like Istor to hunt him down whenever he infects another discussion board... although it's obviously quite annoying for the state-fed, university-reject SN...

[bigOz]

alexISS, sometimes you are really cool man!

[DT.]

1.What is the point? That you personally don't care about Cyprus, and therefore if Cyprus is attacked you wouldn't want Greece to support us?



2.This couldn't be further than the truth. About Cyprus who decides are Cypriots.

1.Yes,that is exactly what i am saying.Why should Greece be legally obligated to military intervention in Cyprus?That only deepens the divitions that is caused to the Greek Cypriot society.

I might accept help on humanitarian bases(food,medical help etc) considering Cyprus is an ally in the EU and NATO.That is all Greece should be eligible to offer.The same off course goes for Turkey.

But the main issue for me personally is not Cyprus but Greece.I dont see why a Greek citizen should be obligated to offer assistance to an independend sovereign country???Why should i be obligated to go to war protecting something that has nothing to do with the sovereign interests of Greece???I mean give me a credible reason....just one.What do I have to do with Cyprus?Or what does a Turkish citizen have to do with Cyprus???


2. RoC needs Greece.It is only normal a small country to be politically dependant on its ''protector''.So yes,the Cypriots might have a saying on whom they elect but i doubt it that they have a saying on what is really going on in RoC.Greece does,it is my firm belief that if Greece doesnt abandon its colonialism pocilies then the Cypriots would continue to suffer and live in a divided island.

Had you said that you'de be happy for a mutual withdrew of gaurantees from both turkey and greece only then i'd be agreeing with you. Unfortunately you've said you' accept a unilateral withdrawal of just greece even if turkey remains. This to me is a cop out and betrayal.

Secondly, there is absolutely no chance that anything that gets done here has been decided to by greece. The tpap govt if its done one thing is prove to the world how a cypriot govt can run its own policies and continue to piss Greece and its gently-gently diplomacy policy its trying to follow.

Karamanlis and Bakoyianni have been placed ina difficult position in the EU many times the past 4 years due to Cyprus's actions.

Thirdly, Cyprus is not in NATO.

[bigOz]

1.What is the point? That you personally don't care about Cyprus, and therefore if Cyprus is attacked you wouldn't want Greece to support us?



2.This couldn't be further than the truth. About Cyprus who decides are Cypriots.

1.Yes,that is exactly what i am saying.Why should Greece be legally obligated to military intervention in Cyprus?That only deepens the divitions that is caused to the Greek Cypriot society.

I might accept help on humanitarian bases(food,medical help etc) considering Cyprus is an ally in the EU and NATO.That is all Greece should be eligible to offer.The same off course goes for Turkey.

But the main issue for me personally is not Cyprus but Greece.I dont see why a Greek citizen should be obligated to offer assistance to an independend sovereign country???Why should i be obligated to go to war protecting something that has nothing to do with the sovereign interests of Greece???I mean give me a credible reason....just one.What do I have to do with Cyprus?Or what does a Turkish citizen have to do with Cyprus???


2. RoC needs Greece.It is only normal a small country to be politically dependant on its ''protector''.So yes,the Cypriots might have a saying on whom they elect but i doubt it that they have a saying on what is really going on in RoC.Greece does,it is my firm belief that if Greece doesnt abandon its colonialism pocilies then the Cypriots would continue to suffer and live in a divided island.

Had you said that you'de be happy for a mutual withdrew of gaurantees from both turkey and greece only then i'd be agreeing with you. Unfortunately you've said you' accept a unilateral withdrawal of just greece even if turkey remains. This to me is a cop out and betrayal.

Secondly, there is absolutely no chance that anything that gets done here has been decided to by greece. The tpap govt if its done one thing is prove to the world how a cypriot govt can run its own policies and continue to piss Greece and its gently-gently diplomacy policy its trying to follow.

Karamanlis and Bakoyianni have been placed ina difficult position in the EU many times the past 4 years due to Cyprus's actions.

Thirdly, Cyprus is not in NATO.

OK OK DT! You are also cool!

[Get Real!]

I just love the Greekos when they take it out on each other, they can be so funny!

And I love your arrogant style, the useless ironic comments and your "know-all" attitude... all traits of a class C debater

You must still be in pain from a past confrontation... ...but the last thing you need right now is to open up another front... and especially like marching into Russia!

[SN]

1.What is the point? That you personally don't care about Cyprus, and therefore if Cyprus is attacked you wouldn't want Greece to support us?



2.This couldn't be further than the truth. About Cyprus who decides are Cypriots.

1.Yes,that is exactly what i am saying.Why should Greece be legally obligated to military intervention in Cyprus?That only deepens the divitions that is caused to the Greek Cypriot society.

I might accept help on humanitarian bases(food,medical help etc) considering Cyprus is an ally in the EU and NATO.That is all Greece should be eligible to offer.The same off course goes for Turkey.

But the main issue for me personally is not Cyprus but Greece.I dont see why a Greek citizen should be obligated to offer assistance to an independend sovereign country???Why should i be obligated to go to war protecting something that has nothing to do with the sovereign interests of Greece???I mean give me a credible reason....just one.What do I have to do with Cyprus?Or what does a Turkish citizen have to do with Cyprus???


2. RoC needs Greece.It is only normal a small country to be politically dependant on its ''protector''.So yes,the Cypriots might have a saying on whom they elect but i doubt it that they have a saying on what is really going on in RoC.Greece does,it is my firm belief that if Greece doesnt abandon its colonialism pocilies then the Cypriots would continue to suffer and live in a divided island.

Had you said that you'de be happy for a mutual withdrew of gaurantees from both turkey and greece only then i'd be agreeing with you. Unfortunately you've said you' accept a unilateral withdrawal of just greece even if turkey remains. This to me is a cop out and betrayal.

Secondly, there is absolutely no chance that anything that gets done here has been decided to by greece. The tpap govt if its done one thing is prove to the world how a cypriot govt can run its own policies and continue to piss Greece and its gently-gently diplomacy policy its trying to follow.

Karamanlis and Bakoyianni have been placed ina difficult position in the EU many times the past 4 years due to Cyprus's actions.

Thirdly, Cyprus is not in NATO.

About Nato i only assumed its normal an EU country to be a Nato member,i was mistaken as i said previously.

I said that my personal opinion is Greece's unilateral withdrawal as a guarantator.Yet that is very very complicated.I was reading the final draft of the Annan Plan yesterday and i see how complicated things are.None the less i would like to see Greece out of this mess,i am voicing my arguments as a Greek citizen.It has nothing to do with ethnic origin,nationality,motherland etc.Hopefully in Turkey there would be similar voices.

I dont believe what you say about Papadopoulos and Greece not interfering.Greece never said in a str8forward way Yes to the plan.It said it is a good chance but ultimately the GC would decide.I believe Greece dictated a few stuff to Papadopoulos.The same way that i believe that it will happen if Turkey ever gets in the EU.Greece will be saying OK we want Turkey to the EU but at the same time they will say that Cyprus has the right to veto them.I believe Greece will only ''save face'' by saying to Cyprus not to veto Turkey(if there isnt reunification of the Island by then) but ultimately if the Cyprus issue is not settled in Greece's favor,Greece will be more than happy to let Cyprus veto Turkey,thus blackmailing it.

Anyway Greece one way or another interferes,that is my point.I dont want this bullshit to continue.Complete neutrality even unilateraly i say as a Greek citizen.

[SN]

...... Na mi se vrisw xana e?To ehw kanei se tosa forum.Papse na asxolise me oti lew...

Na papseis na les malakies.

Wow so SN systematically spreads his bullshit since he participates in many forums... well thank god then that there are guys like Istor to hunt him down whenever he infects another discussion board... although it's obviously quite annoying for the state-fed, university-reject SN...

Alexis i told you dont be a villager.You know Jack Shit about me and about my upbringing and what i am doing or have done in my life.It is pathetic.Komplexara megali eisai filaraki.Araxe mia,xristo de xereis gia parti mou,krata ti vlahia sou gia parti sou.

Istor will klasei ta tria mou,if you get my point.Istor cant face the fact that there are Greek citizens who dont consider Macedonia to be Greek and it shocks him even more that i come from Greek Macedonia my self.

He has repeatdly called me a traitor,an Efialtis to Hellism all the bullshit that villager people with a retard mentality like yours are saying.Typical boring Greek.He has been parading personal attacks against me,quoting bullshit about family's history in the civil war,which only prooves the dark ages people of your stock still have.Wake up,its 2007,not 1949.

I would call you people United Village States of Greece.Enomeni vlahia ellinwn

[SN]

I just love the Greekos when they take it out on each other, they can be so funny!

And I love your arrogant style, the useless ironic comments and your "know-all" attitude... all traits of a class C debater

While your traits,are class A?Take a hike,Alexis.

Go play your willy re-assuring your self that Greece is better than everyone else.Maybe that way,viagra wont be of importance to you.

[DT.]

1.What is the point? That you personally don't care about Cyprus, and therefore if Cyprus is attacked you wouldn't want Greece to support us?



2.This couldn't be further than the truth. About Cyprus who decides are Cypriots.

1.Yes,that is exactly what i am saying.Why should Greece be legally obligated to military intervention in Cyprus?That only deepens the divitions that is caused to the Greek Cypriot society.

I might accept help on humanitarian bases(food,medical help etc) considering Cyprus is an ally in the EU and NATO.That is all Greece should be eligible to offer.The same off course goes for Turkey.

But the main issue for me personally is not Cyprus but Greece.I dont see why a Greek citizen should be obligated to offer assistance to an independend sovereign country???Why should i be obligated to go to war protecting something that has nothing to do with the sovereign interests of Greece???I mean give me a credible reason....just one.What do I have to do with Cyprus?Or what does a Turkish citizen have to do with Cyprus???


2. RoC needs Greece.It is only normal a small country to be politically dependant on its ''protector''.So yes,the Cypriots might have a saying on whom they elect but i doubt it that they have a saying on what is really going on in RoC.Greece does,it is my firm belief that if Greece doesnt abandon its colonialism pocilies then the Cypriots would continue to suffer and live in a divided island.

Had you said that you'de be happy for a mutual withdrew of gaurantees from both turkey and greece only then i'd be agreeing with you. Unfortunately you've said you' accept a unilateral withdrawal of just greece even if turkey remains. This to me is a cop out and betrayal.

Secondly, there is absolutely no chance that anything that gets done here has been decided to by greece. The tpap govt if its done one thing is prove to the world how a cypriot govt can run its own policies and continue to piss Greece and its gently-gently diplomacy policy its trying to follow.

Karamanlis and Bakoyianni have been placed ina difficult position in the EU many times the past 4 years due to Cyprus's actions.

Thirdly, Cyprus is not in NATO.

About Nato i only assumed its normal an EU country to be a Nato member,i was mistaken as i said previously.

I said that my personal opinion is Greece's unilateral withdrawal as a guarantator.Yet that is very very complicated.I was reading the final draft of the Annan Plan yesterday and i see how complicated things are.None the less i would like to see Greece out of this mess,i am voicing my arguments as a Greek citizen.It has nothing to do with ethnic origin,nationality,motherland etc.Hopefully in Turkey there would be similar voices.

I dont believe what you say about Papadopoulos and Greece not interfering.Greece never said in a str8forward way Yes to the plan.It said it is a good chance but ultimately the GC would decide.I believe Greece dictated a few stuff to Papadopoulos.The same way that i believe that it will happen if Turkey ever gets in the EU.Greece will be saying OK we want Turkey to the EU but at the same time they will say that Cyprus has the right to veto them.I believe Greece will only ''save face'' by saying to Cyprus not to veto Turkey(if there isnt reunification of the Island by then) but ultimately if the Cyprus issue is not settled in Greece's favor,Greece will be more than happy to let Cyprus veto Turkey,thus blackmailing it.

Anyway Greece one way or another interferes,that is my point.I dont want this bullshit to continue.Complete neutrality even unilateraly i say as a Greek citizen.

You see SN its your careless choice of words that gets everyones back up. In your attempt to emphasise a pooint you take the description to the extreme in the hope that someone understand how frustrated you feel about this issue. Take for example your choice of words 2 posts ago

So yes,the Cypriots might have a saying on whom they elect but i doubt it that they have a saying on what is really going on in RoC.Greece does

and com,pare with your words 1 post ago

I believe Greece dictated a few stuff to Papadopoulos

theres a bit of a difference between the 2.