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[SN]

...... Na mi se vrisw xana e?To ehw kanei se tosa forum.Papse na asxolise me oti lew...

Na papseis na les malakies.

Istor trava paixe me kanena fasistomoutro tou sinafiou sou kai ase emena.
Kopse na epemvaineis opou simetehw kai se oti ehw na pw,protinw na peraseis to idio minimataki kai sta kolopaidia ta filarakia sou.
Den iparhei logos na mpaineis se opoio forum mpainw kai na epemvaineis.Oute tha allaxeis kati stis apopseis mou.Einai i teleutaia fora pou anoigw dialogo mazi sou,prepei na katalaveis oti den einai oloi oi ellines polites sa ta moutra sou.Molis to hwnepseis tote euharistws na sindialagw gia to pws mporei i Ellada na veltiwthei.Pros to paron krata tis anahronistikes sou apopseis gia tin parti sou.

SN...you sure you're not a cypriot?

Elladitis eimai(kai ton oro to hrisimopoiw apo sevasmo pros tous Ellino Kyprious).To kopse to leme sineheia stin Ellada.Giati na pw oti eimai Elladitis?
Kai giati sinehws amfisvitite tin ethniki mou katagwgi?
Toso diskolo einai na ginei antilipto oti enas Ellinas politis,me xekathari Elliniki ethnikotita mporei na ginei katapeltis apenanti sti patrida tou?

Auto den einai kai i ousia tis dimokratias?

Se diavaivew, Serraios,genima threma.

Me to na se apokaleso kyprio den amfisvito thn ethnikotita sou.

Den iparhei logos na apodikneiomai sinehws.Eipa oti eimai Serraios and thats that.
I Ellada gia mena ehei meridio euthinis gia to ti simvainei se sas ekei katw.Den eimai aristeros Kyprios an ipotheteis auto,rwta ton Istor xerei kalitera,mias kai autos kai i parea tou frontizoun me eukolia na ''epivalloun'' tis apopseis tous stous ellines polites.

[SN]

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About Thessaloniki i compared it to the Macedonian nation which obviously poses no threat to Greece.Thessaloniki's population with the suburbs equals the number of ethnic Macedonians living in Macedonia,if not exceeds the population of ethnic Macedonians.That what i said.If you want to play with every word i say,i am bored,do it with a retard,not me.
Bilaterally Macedonia with every country that recognizes it is referred to as Macedonia.Only bsc of Greece's bullshit UN still refers to it as such.
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Whoever calls those Titozombies as Macedonians and their country as Macedonia, is not Greek by definition.
So, accept that you are not Greek, accept your identity and gain our respect and answers.

Hahaha.

That is very interesting.Istor goes Macedonia is Greek and someone saying otherwise is not Greek.
Simon answers Macedonia is Greek.

Mpravo Simon,now you have sucessfully passed the test and since you said Macedonia is Greek you are a true Greek.
Now that you have successfully reasured your selfs with the Greek bonding be proud of the malakies of the Greek state.

What am i,re mpastarde Istor???I am not Greek bsc i say screw the name issue and detach my self from Greece's detrimental policies?Who fucking said that i must say that Macedonia is Greek to be a Greek???Ha???

You are a true pathetic complexized person Istor.

Malaka,sinelthe....me ta logia sou esy eisai autos pou xtipas tin Ellada,apodikniontas ton paropidismo tous mesou Ellina....XIPNA REEEEEEEEE

[seleucus Nicator]

Where did you find the imperialistic agenda of Greece ?
Is Greece going to invade to Turkey?(and nobody knows it)

No,that is not possible,neither i believe Greece aims to invade Turkey.

What Greece wants is to control geopolitically more and more the area.While a small minority of people might dream Istanbul as their capital,it is obvious that Greece doesnt have those dreams.
But that does not go against the claim that Greece on its effort to geopolitically control and establish its dominance goes to extremes that would normally be met with any neighbouring country's response.[/quote]

[quote="seleucus Nicator wrote:I dont know how did you made this conclusion about the geopolitical control of Greece in the area because the reality is different.If the Greek government continue this kind of policy (just giving) without taking something back from Turkey in a few years we will speak about the finlandization of Greece.I dont know if you do like the relations of Greece and Turkey to be like the relations of Finland and Russia personally i like to have relation of mutual respect .I think that you overestimate the capabilities of the Greek state that cannot even avoid the burnt of Parnitha from incompetence .

Istor trava paixe me kanena fasistomoutro tou sinafiou sou kai ase emena.
Kopse na epemvaineis opou simetehw kai se oti ehw na pw,protinw na peraseis to idio minimataki kai sta kolopaidia ta filarakia sou.
Den iparhei logos na mpaineis se opoio forum mpainw kai na epemvaineis.Oute tha allaxeis kati stis apopseis mou.Einai i teleutaia fora pou anoigw dialogo mazi sou,prepei na katalaveis oti den einai oloi oi ellines polites sa ta moutra sou.Molis to hwnepseis tote euharistws na sindialagw gia to pws mporei i Ellada na veltiwthei.Pros to paron krata tis anahronistikes sou apopseis gia tin parti sou.

File mou sympatrioti , oi apopseis sou antiprosopeyeuon mono ton eafto sou kai kanena allon .Exo ki ego diaforetiki apopsi gia to makedoniko apo tin epikratousa kai tin leo pantou (kai sto Cyprus forum)giati stin Ellada exoume DIMOKRATIA alla parallila peitharxo stin pliopsifia (kai den theoro kai fasistes opoious den simfonoun mazi mou)gia na iparxei enaia apopsi sta ethnika themata . Ean i epiodiksi sou einai na veltioseis tin Ellada se diavevaio oti me to sigkekrimeno tropo (pou esi nomizeis oti einai sostos) mono gia dialisi tin proorizeis.Opos ksereis stin Ellada exoume gemisei apo pseto- proodeytikous giati einai kai tis modas.Kita na ksekathariseis to ti einai pragmatika proodeytiko kai ti anaxronistiko giati pisteyo oti ta exeis ligo mperdemena opos kai alla themata (opos oti i Ellada einai imperialistiki h gia ton geopolitiko elegxo tis Elladas stin perioxi or GREECE CONTINUES TO BE THE ONLY TRUE HITLER OF THE BALKANS or Personally i feel ashamed both of my Greek national identity as well as my Greek upbringing in this Hitler like state.
klp..) Ean den estanese perifanos gia tin elliniki sou taytotita apotelei diko sou provlima oxi ton ipoloipon alloste to neo Elliniko kratos ( to opoio ipostirizeis oti thes na veltioseis)dimiourgithike gia proti fora to 1830 o Ellinismos ipirxe gia 3000 xronia kai tha sinexisei na iparxei kai ean akoma katastrafei to neo Elliniko kratos.

me filikous xairetismous

Σέλευκος Α' Νικάτωρ

[SN]

File mou sympatrioti , oi apopseis sou antiprosopeyeuon mono ton eafto sou kai kanena allon .Exo ki ego diaforetiki apopsi gia to makedoniko apo tin epikratousa kai tin leo pantou (kai sto Cyprus forum)giati stin Ellada exoume DIMOKRATIA alla parallila peitharxo stin pliopsifia (kai den theoro kai fasistes opoious den simfonoun mazi mou)gia na iparxei enaia apopsi sta ethnika themata . Ean i epiodiksi sou einai na veltioseis tin Ellada se diavevaio oti me to sigkekrimeno tropo (pou esi nomizeis oti einai sostos) mono gia dialisi tin proorizeis.Opos ksereis stin Ellada exoume gemisei apo pseto- proodeytikous giati einai kai tis modas.Kita na ksekathariseis to ti einai pragmatika proodeytiko kai ti anaxronistiko giati pisteyo oti ta exeis ligo mperdemena opos kai alla themata (opos oti i Ellada einai imperialistiki h gia ton geopolitiko elegxo tis Elladas stin perioxi or GREECE CONTINUES TO BE THE ONLY TRUE HITLER OF THE BALKANS or Personally i feel ashamed both of my Greek national identity as well as my Greek upbringing in this Hitler like state.
klp..) Ean den estanese perifanos gia tin elliniki sou taytotita apotelei diko sou provlima oxi ton ipoloipon alloste to neo Elliniko kratos ( to opoio ipostirizeis oti thes na veltioseis)dimiourgithike gia proti fora to 1830 o Ellinismos ipirxe gia 3000 xronia kai tha sinexisei na iparxei kai ean akoma katastrafei to neo Elliniko kratos.

me filikous xairetismous

Σέλευκος Α' Νικάτωρ

At least you seem a tad more moderate.
My phraseology i have admitted is harsh.Any one has the right to loose its temper.I dont focus around that.
While i am neither confused nor ''pseudo-progressive'' as you mean it,i believe this country has nothing to fear if it makes consessions towards Macedonia and stops being a guarantator even unilaterally over Cyprus.

My strategic aim is not to dismember Greece,rather than hit back to this imbecile Greek mentality.While you mention that we must have have a common stance on national issues i ask you to identify Greece's enemies.

Greece is neither Cyprus nor Macedonia.It has a striking homogeneity and has nothing to fear from Macedonia or Turkey.

Our interference to Cyprus has made us sell out the island.So what is the right thing to do ha?
Anyway PERSONALLY as i said,i wanna see Greece out of Cyprus.I see no reason,whatever the GC say,they must talk with their TC brothers,not ask for our ''guidance''.

[Get Real!]

I just love the Greekos when they take it out on each other, they can be so funny!

[Simon]

I am not trying to present anything, other than showing you, your inconsistencies. If you can't handle that, be more careful when debating. Otherwise, don't debate at all. Thessalonika is not as big as the FYROM (like it matters) and Greece is not a Nazi state. Both your claims. Greece clearly has international law on its side in the Aegean dispute; and its minorities are treated well, whether classed as a Muslim minority or not. (It is classed as a Muslim minority because that is the religion of a group made up of various ethnicities that live in the same area. Greece recognises this minority is made up of Turks, Pomaks etc. AlexISS has already posted this). The Albanians are a part of the FYROM state, and are FYROM citizens, so it is silly trying to separate them. All you are doing now is repeating yourself, and it really is very boring. It is probably the inferiority complex you have that you need to have the last word, so if all else fails, just repeat what you said earlier. You make me laugh, bull-shit comes from the Greek government, but you are very happy to quote the FYROM official position. It is that kind of biased shit I can't stand, and is why I have no time for people like you. I have been over the Macedonian and minority issue many times, and I shot down your claims. I shall simply sum up by stating, the FYROM will have to reach a mutually acceptable solution to the name issue, no matter what idiots like you say, and the UN has even stated this. Yes, Greece is not perfect, but your original claims were ridiculous, and have massively reduced from what they were, and therefore, I will leave you to any future ramblings.

This thread has ended up having little to do with Cyprus. You have saw to that by bringing in Greek issues such as the FYROM's name. Therefore, I intervened to bring objectivity to the debate. Something you are clearly lacking.

You have no right to tell GCs how to identify themselves. So please refrain from doing so. Greece is a guarantor of Cyprus, and therefore PROVES she cares. Do something useful with your life and join the extremist Slavs in their fight for a liberated Macedonia and Thessaloniki as their capital. Or alternatively, fly to Ankara and offer your support to Turkey in their quest to dominate the Aegean and Cyprus.

[Simon]

[quote]That is very interesting.Istor goes Macedonia is Greek and someone saying otherwise is not Greek.
Simon answers Macedonia is Greek. [/quote]


MORE IDIOCY FROM SN. WHERE DID I ANSWER MACEDONIA IS GREEK? DO I HAVE TO REMIND YOU ABOUT YOUR PATHETIC USE OF WORDS AGAIN?

[SN]

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I am not trying to present anything, other than showing you, your inconsistencies. If you can't handle that, be more careful when debating. Otherwise, don't debate at all. Thessalonika is not as big as the FYROM (like it matters) and Greece is not a Nazi state. Both your claims. Greece clearly has international law on its side in the Aegean dispute; and its minorities are treated well, whether classed as a Muslim minority or not. (It is classed as a Muslim minority because that is the religion of a group made up of various ethnicities that live in the same area. Greece recognises this minority is made up of Turks, Pomaks etc. AlexISS has already posted this). The Albanians are a part of the FYROM state, and are FYROM citizens, so it is silly trying to separate them. All you are doing now is repeating yourself, and it really is very boring. It is probably the inferiority complex you have that you need to have the last word, so if all else fails, just repeat what you said earlier. You make me laugh, bull-shit comes from the Greek government, but you are very happy to quote the FYROM official position. It is that kind of biased shit I can't stand, and is why I have no time for people like you. I have been over the Macedonian and minority issue many times, and I shot down your claims. I shall simply sum up by stating, the FYROM will have to reach a mutually acceptable solution to the name issue, no matter what idiots like you say, and the UN has even stated this. Yes, Greece is not perfect, but your original claims were ridiculous, and have massively reduced from what they were, and therefore, I will leave you to any future ramblings.

This thread has ended up having little to do with Cyprus. You have saw to that by bringing in Greek issues such as the FYROM's name. Therefore, I intervened to bring objectivity to the debate. Something you are clearly lacking.

You have no right to tell GCs how to identify themselves. So please refrain from doing so. Greece is a guarantor of Cyprus, and therefore PROVES she cares. Do something useful with your life and join the extremist Slavs in their fight for a liberated Macedonia and Thessaloniki as their capital. Or alternatively, fly to Ankara and offer your support to Turkey in their quest to dominate the Aegean and Cyprus.

Hahaha.You have shot me down??Ela re.Please dont make laugh.You prooved nothing but how biggot you are.The minority name is crutial element.Whatever Greece propagates i dont care the name is Muslim.

About Greece having the international law on its side...well, unless you are a judge in the Hague court,i take your claims as bullshit,horseshit etc.I provided a neutral link naming the violations as disputes.Legally both countries are covered.Proove me wrong from a neutral source


I told you we are doing rounds bsc you wanna have an argument.My choice of words is perfect while you have discredited nothing.If you want to descredit me find one quote about the name of the minority and about Macedonian's gov monopoly over the name.

It is only bla bla bla bla to post something i believe.About Thessaloniki you are boring...i told you Thessaloniki has the same population of ethnic Macedonians as the whole country of Macedonia.If not more(if you add the metropolitan area of Thessaloniki).

Twist the words of a fellow GC not mine.Find me the quotes i asked you and then will do the real debate until then save your bullshit for the belivers.

[SN]

That is very interesting.Istor goes Macedonia is Greek and someone saying otherwise is not Greek.
Simon answers Macedonia is Greek.

MORE IDIOCY FROM SN. WHERE DID I ANSWER MACEDONIA IS GREEK? DO I HAVE TO REMIND YOU ABOUT YOUR PATHETIC USE OF WORDS AGAIN?

Spare me the bullshit by saying you that you do not consider Macedonians as Macedonians,what did you mean?that Macedonia is chinese?Off course you meant what your little propaganda dictates you.That Macedonia is Greek.

I told you,play with a toy or something not words.

[SN]

You have no right to tell GCs how to identify themselves. So please refrain from doing so. Greece is a guarantor of Cyprus, and therefore PROVES she cares. Do something useful with your life and join the extremist Slavs in their fight for a liberated Macedonia and Thessaloniki as their capital. Or alternatively, fly to Ankara and offer your support to Turkey in their quest to dominate the Aegean and Cyprus.

That is what i call wishfull thinking of brainwashed GC.

I d even class it as romantic thoughts about your perceived motherland...It reminds me something of the 1821 era.Hahaha.Do GC actually believe this shit???

As if Greece is a guarantator for Cyprus.Greece is a guarantator for Greece.Greece will sell your people out at an eye blink.Greece did it once she is not gonna hesitate to do it again.