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Postby humanist » Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:59 am

DT my friend I know it is not applicable in todays modern world and I appreciate the example of russia was not an examplary one, though the notion still befalls me and the beauty of our worls is that it evolves constantly. How long do you think we can sustain this order of kill before they kill you?
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Postby SN » Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:01 am

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Personally I know that there is only one classification of minority in Greece and that is the Muslim minority. (you can find this in state.gov and the human rights report...i suggest you read greece first and then move on to turkey so that you can really digest the difference.) There is neither officially a Turkish or Jewish or whatever else minority in Greece. Considering however that Turkey is an excellent player in the world arena on defending ITS minorities (don't ask for her own) then I can understand Greece's paranoia. Soon as you claim a Turkish minority anywhere in the world Turkey is allowed to setup a new country (please see Kirkuk recently)

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I forgot to comment on this one.Off course i said DT that there is no Jewish,Bulgarian or whatever minority in Greece TODAY.
I SAID there was a huge MAJORITY population of the above populations prior 1913 in Macedonia.Greece's ethnical cleansing has worked fine and today we only have one religious minority bsc we are obligated by the L Treaty.

You might wanna revise on Greece's history and specially on its Balkanic Imperialism.You will be shocked.

Greece has managed to ''liberate'' a place that only had a minority of Greek population.I am refering off-course to Macedonia...
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Postby Piratis » Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:27 am

Greece has managed to ''liberate'' a place that only had a minority of Greek population.I am refering off-course to Macedonia...


Macedonia has always been Greek, Slavs did not even exist at the time of Alexander the Great. If some others have consequently occupied it and forcefully became the majority, this can not change the fact that Macedonia is Greek.

This is a message to our enemies: Regardless of your illegal criminal efforts to ethnically cleanse us and change the demographics of part of our island we WILL be back and we will pay you back in kind.
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Postby SN » Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:35 am

Piratis wrote:
Greece has managed to ''liberate'' a place that only had a minority of Greek population.I am refering off-course to Macedonia...


Macedonia has always been Greek, Slavs did not even exist at the time of Alexander the Great. If some others have consequently occupied it and forcefully became the majority, this can not change the fact that Macedonia is Greek.

This is a message to our enemies: Regardless of your illegal criminal efforts to ethnically cleanse us and change the demographics of part of our island we WILL be back and we will pay you back in kind.



Hahaha.Spare me....Oh please spare me....

Macedonia has never had a majority Greek population.It only became ethnically purified after its unification to Greece.

The Slav migration theory during the 6thAD is no longer accepted by western academia.It is gradually loosing scientific merit.

Macedonia is as Greek as Tokyo is.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:48 am

So you mean in Tokyo they speak Greek and follow the Greek culture and traditions as well. They also have leaders with Greek names that spread the Greek civilization around the world?

Don't be funny my friend. Macedonia has everything Greek (some examples given above). Now tell me what it has to do with the Slavs? Did Alexander speak Slavic? Did he follow some Slavic traditions, spreading the Slavic civilization?
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Postby SN » Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:59 am

Macedonia has nothing to do with the Greeks or the current inhabitants of the country of Macedonia.

Ancient Greeks are long gone.The ancient Macedonians as a backward Greek tribe compared to the rest of the Greeks are also long gone.

You and I my friend are a product of a bastardized nation.The Greek one,which has nothing to do with the glorious history of the ancient Greeks.

Todays inhabitants of the Republic of Macedonia have every right to self identify as Macedonians since they have been in Macedonia for a long long time.And off course have every right to the use of the Macedonian name.

Greece should stop its middle age politics and its destabilization policies in the Balkans.Greece must shut up about the alleged Greekness of Macedonia once and for good.

Let me just add that i come from Serres....
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Postby Piratis » Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:20 am

If we go by your theory then Greece should also stop to claim that is Greek. :roll:

Every nation today is bastardized with the exception of some lost tribes in the Amazon and maybe places like Iceland.

What makes somebody a Greek or a German or Turk or whatever is his language and his culture.

So what exactly do you want? For the "bastard Greeks" to give all Greek territories to the "bastard Turks" or to any other "bastard" in the area? Why would you want that? What personal issues do you have with Greece?
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Postby SN » Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:41 am

Piratis wrote:If we go by your theory then Greece should also stop to claim that is Greek. :roll:

Every nation today is bastardized with the exception of some lost tribes in the Amazon and maybe places like Iceland.

What makes somebody a Greek or a German or Turk or whatever is his language and his culture.

So what exactly do you want? For the "bastard Greeks" to give all Greek territories to the "bastard Turks" or to any other "bastard" in the area? Why would you want that? What personal issues do you have with Greece?




To mono prosopiko thema pou ehw me tin Ellada einai oti eimai Ellinas politis.Peran toutou,tipota allo....Elpizw na pianeis tin eirwnia.

Apla einai wra i Elladitsa na papsei tin propaganda tis pou ehei voithisei mono stin apostatheropoisei twn Valkaniwn kai tis euriteris periohis.

I Ellas prepei na to voulwsei se polla themata.Me protisto auto tis Kyprou,giati ta alithina thimata tha sinehisetai na eiste eseis....Oi legomenoi Ellino Kyprioi...
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Postby Piratis » Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:06 am

An oloi skeftontan san esena i Ellada den the ipirhe san anexartito kratos. Fisika esi den the ihes provlima na ise "legomenos tourkos" an afto tha se simfere prosopika.

An prepi na to voulosi kapios aftos ise esi. Emis ehoume mathi na diekdikoume afta pou mas anikoun kai den tha skipsoume na mas gamisoun epidi etsi simferi se kapious.
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Postby SN » Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:21 am

Piratis wrote:An oloi skeftontan san esena i Ellada den the ipirhe san anexartito kratos. Fisika esi den the ihes provlima na ise "legomenos tourkos" an afto tha se simfere prosopika.

An prepi na to voulosi kapios aftos ise esi. Emis ehoume mathi na diekdikoume afta pou mas anikoun kai den tha skipsoume na mas gamisoun epidi etsi simferi se kapious.




Protinw na afiseis ta fasistika oneiropolimata gia tin anesi tou spitiou sou.O dexio fasismos twn Ellino Kypriwn einai gnwstos tis pasi.Emeis stin Ellada eneka xronias trivis me to ti simainei Ellas eimaste makran proodeutikoteroi apo ta dika sas ethnikistika skirtimata.

Den einai thema prosopikou simpefontos alla thema afypniseis idiaitera ton Ellinwn politwn mesa stin tehniti Elladitsa.


Sofo,tha itan na xipniseis apo to oneiro sou oti i Ellas mporei na endiaferthei pote gia sena i gia tin Kypro.

Exallou egw prosopika den ehw na hwrisw kati me enan Tourko politi.Tous thewrw geitones kai filous.

Esy eheis polla na hwriseis me tous Kyprious simpolites sou mias kai pisteueis oti eheis panw sou kati Elliniko...Opws kapoioi Kyprioi pisteuoun oti ehoun panw tous kati Tourkiko.

Pionakia eiste eite tis Elladas eite tis Tourkia,analoga opws to vlepei kaneis.
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