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[joe]

I have never visited the UK before, well maybe for a stop over flight, but i have many British friends here in Cyprus. I am reading about two parked cars packed with explo. and near a circus, a place where children go. That is some sick shit and now a burning car ramming with flames coming out?! Living your life in this state of fear must be a terrible thing. I wish all the Brits the very best in these trying days.

[joe]

View pictures of what has happened in Glasgow below:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/6257388.stm

[Helen & David]

thank you for your post....... My parents are Glaswegion born & bred and my friends and relatives are regular passengers in Glasgow Airport, thank goodness none of them were there today, I know Cyprus is not a perfect place to live but the sooner I can get away from the UK the better!

[miltiades]

I have never visited the UK before, well maybe for a stop over flight, but i have many British friends here in Cyprus. I am reading about two parked cars packed with explo. and near a circus, a place where children go. That is some sick shit and now a burning car ramming with flames coming out?! Living your life in this state of fear must be a terrible thing. I wish all the Brits the very best in these trying days.

Hi Joe , just a minor correction as the area involved which was near Piccadilly Circus , nothing to do with a circus , it is just the name of this very central part of London , in fact the epicentre of London.
One of the cars was directly outside a very popular night club and the other a little further down in a car park at Hide Park.
Just in case you may not be aware , in the UK there are hundreds and hundreds of "Madrases " where the Pakistani , Bangladeshi and other Muslim parents take their children at this madrassas on a daily basis , 7 days a week , to learn about their faith. Unfortunately they are mostly taught of how precise and correct is Islam and corrupt are the other religions , constant reference to non- Muslims as "infidels" does not help these children to grow up in the UK and to feel part of our society. The problem is that the government has no control what so ever at what is taught at these places. The July 7th bombers had also as children attended these indoctrination classes. We are faced with an enemy that has been instructed from an early age to hate the infidels .This is happening with children all over Pakistan , Bangladesh etc etc.

[dancingbear]

miltiades,
Well said, also i would add Leeds,Bradford,Rochdale,Oldham,Manchester,Birmingham,Glasgow and many more towns around the Country.

Bear

[Eliko]

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We are faced with an enemy that has been instructed from an early age to hate the infidels .This is happening with children all over Pakistan ,
Bangladesh etc etc.[/quote]

Good morning miltiades, I would like to ask you a simple question relative to your quote.

"Have you ever wondered WHY these people instruct their siblings to adopt such an adverse attitude to we of the West ?.

Given that they do not wish to adopt our codes of conduct, would it not be fair to at least consider their grievances?, there may be some justification in their reluctance to integrate with us.

[miltiades]

Eliko , I do not want to get into more arguments with you since we are so far apart in our interpretation of most situations. Here is what Mr.Brown , the UK Prime Minister has just said on his firsts interview on British TV.

"""""A number of extremists who are prepared to cause maximum death and destruction in the interest of their perversion of their religion """"

The immigrants who came to the UK from these nations were clearly , as you say , not prepared to adopt our codes of conduct , they were however very much prepared to accept our benefits and hand outs. We have nothing to learn from cultures that consider the honour of an entire family to be located somewhere in between a females' legs. A culture that considers our women to be slugs prostitutes decadent and considers the night clubs as a legitimate target is a culture of the barbarians.
The extremists that Mr Brown referred to were brought up hating our way of life because they were indoctrinated from an early age to adopt such behaviour. These extremists are not welcomed in the UK or anywhere else in Europe , their method is barbaric and they are consumed by an immense amount of hatred towards all those , including main stream Muslims , who do not share their perverted ideology. There is no justification than can be excused for such barbaric acts and no civilized human can possibly justify such murderous attacks on the grounds that , as you say "Have you ever wondered WHY these people instruct their siblings to adopt such an adverse attitude to we of the West ?. """

You also state the following :

"""Given that they do not wish to adopt our codes of conduct, would it not be fair to at least consider their grievances?, there may be some justification in their reluctance to integrate with us. """

What may I ask do we have to do in order that these "enemy within " are encouraged to integrate. Well we know from these extremists that there is only one change that they want us to instigate. Cover our women up , pray five times a day , forgo our traditional breakfast of egg and bacon get rid of our pets grow a beard and have sharia law.NOT BLOODY LIKELY.

[Eliko]

miltiades, you did not answer my question, why not?.

[Niki]

Why then do these people come to the West if they despise it? Sould they not simply avoid the people and land they hate so much? No because their beliefs are not powerful enough to refuse the money and lifestyle this hated nation gives. Hyprocrasy in it's worst form.

The UK with all it's faults has provided, educated and supported the religions only to have it thrown back in their faces.

The apparent adverse reaction to the West is part of freedom of speech, everyone should be allowed to have their own say. BUT...they should not accept the money and support given by the West if they feel so strongly. What is the justification in this?

[miltiades]

Why then do these people come to the West if they despise it? Sould they not simply avoid the people and land they hate so much? No because their beliefs are not powerful enough to refuse the money and lifestyle this hated nation gives. Hyprocrasy in it's worst form.

The UK with all it's faults has provided, educated and supported the religions only to have it thrown back in their faces.

The apparent adverse reaction to the West is part of freedom of speech, everyone should be allowed to have their own say. BUT...they should not accept the money and support given by the West if they feel so strongly. What is the justification in this?

And if they fail to conform and abide by OUR rules , they should simply depart, go back to their dens , back to their corrupt and inhumane nations that they risked life and limp to escape from. IT IS , quite clear now that the UK does not want them here , no longer are the Brits prepared to keep a stiff upper lip.Enough is Enough. Join us or PISS OFF