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[Pyrpolizer]

Good post totally agree, we said without hinderence our prospects would be excellent.

And what is that prediction based on VP? Micro/Macro economics studies or wishful thinking?

Go study the economies of countires like San Marino and Andora with no coast line then you will see how small states can survive and prosper. This is of course goes against what you want for TCs as you are so used to ensuring we are at a disadvantage by isolation and embargoes but what Piratis put forward is recognition for return of land which I agree to, a clean break you go your way and I go mine, what happens after that is none of your business.

GR has a point. Both your examples are of "town states" something like independent municipalities. In fact they enjoy the same standard of living as their neighbouring towns.
Besides they are both neutral have no military to spend their money and no ENEMIES to need defense from. Both also depend by 50%+ on tourism.
In Cyprus it is a proven fact that our tourism depends on seashore, so you cannot take that out of the equation.

So you really need an indepth economic analysis to conclude how you will perform in case of partition.

Turkey joining the EU or not you better find out the amount of business interests that the EU has with Turkey a 74 million market that makes 1/3 of the EU population .

What are these bussiness opportunities the Eu DOES NOT already HAVE IN Romania,Poland, and so many other EU countries?? Care to enlighten us?

[Pyrpolizer]

Pyrpolizer wrote

I am not answering YES nor NO because not only the question is hypothetical, but has zero chances to ever become an option.

Yes I agree, 18%-82% is not an option. I would guess a more realistic figure of 32%-68%. That is fair and square.

You have not read what I said mrfromng. I said is not an option politically. Your option is more naive though....

[MR-from-NG]

Pyrpolizer wrote

I am not answering YES nor NO because not only the question is hypothetical, but has zero chances to ever become an option.

Yes I agree, 18%-82% is not an option. I would guess a more realistic figure of 32%-68%. That is fair and square.

You have not read what I said mrfromng. I said is not an option politically. Your option is more naive though....

Sorry, forgot to put a smiley on my message. I was being sarcastic

[Pyrpolizer]

Sarcastic you would have been if you had said 37-63%

[T_C]

Bullshit Piratis, It seems last night you slept without your underwear, that make you wake up with the idea to offer the Turkish Cypriots 18% of the land and keep the 82% for your self. Congratulations Bravo You might as well offer the British some percentage from that 18% perhaps then only the Turkish Cypriots will accept your idea.
Piratis listen carefully, today the Turkish Cypriots control 40% and there is no way that any percentage will be given to the Greek Cypriots . If a situation has been created due to war the only way to change it is by war. Can you afford that? Instead of wasting your time writing bullshit think of ways that the Turkish Cypriot administration will allow residents of Ammohoustos to return back, and to be clear for that to happen you have to accept that the Turkish Cypriots are socially, economically, politically equal partners of the republic. Unless you realize this reality nothing will change till hell freezes.

till hell freezes? You are too confident.

I made this "poll" in order to see if there was a possibility for a peaceful arrangement. I guess the answer is " If a situation has been created due to war the only way to change it is by war" and thats a good enough conclusion. I just wanted to be sure we didn't exhaust all possibilities for a peaceful solution.

So have fun to continue being the biggest losers of all, and when you will lose everything you can blame it only on your greediness.

No Piratis the biggest losers have been the GCs since they fell for some low life mainland Greeks' scam at trying to claim Cyprus as theirs.

You got CONNED by Greece and when the shit hit the fan she just watched from a far and did NOTHING!!!!!

They had nothing to lose from what they did and they lost just that....nothing!

You on the other hand suffered immensly and still to this day try to blame anyone but the people who caused you this suffering!

It was the mainland Greeks who ruined Cyprus from the get go! Once upon a time Cyprus was full of CYPRIOTS, then mainland Greeks came and infected you with their poison, turned you against your TC brothers, occupied your minds and your country!

From your posts its obvious you still havent recovered...

Once upon a time GCs were COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY different people!!!!!

[T_C]

I spoke with my grans childhood friend about the Cyprob today. She told me how her CYPRIOT neighbours looked after her mum while she was away, her mum was really ill and dying and when shed get upset her CYPRIOT neighbours would say ''MIGAGON'' or something like that (cant remember what she told me it means ), she said how they would make majun near enough everyday and bring it round for them to eat and how the CYPRIOTS could NEVER pronounce ''ı'' and would call her ''Hatice Hanooum'' (Hatice Hanım).

Shame we dont have any Cypriots left....coz it SUCKS living next to Greeks

[humanist]

T_C

No Piratis the biggest losers have been the GCs since they fell for some low life mainland Greeks' scam at trying to claim Cyprus as theirs.

You got CONNED by Greece and when the shit hit the fan she just watched from a far and did NOTHING!!!!!

They had nothing to lose from what they did and they lost just that....nothing!

You on the other hand suffered immensly and still to this day try to blame anyone but the people who caused you this suffering!

It was the mainland Greeks who ruined Cyprus from the get go! Once upon a time Cyprus was full of CYPRIOTS, then mainland Greeks came and infected you with their poison, turned you against your TC brothers, occupied your minds and your country!

From your posts its obvious you still havent recovered...

Once upon a time GCs were COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY different people!!!!!

My dear T_C friend, that is certainly a story that I have heard over and over again. And I can probably safely say that your coment is very corret.

However, it does not change the fact that Cyprus is currently divided and people are experiencing the consequesnces of the separation and current division. So I would suggest that we let the past go. Acknowledge it and begin a process of reconciliation and unification. Now at your own admission you went to lunch with some Cypriots the other day and all got well and you may be even getting a tour of Ayia Napa (why I have no idea why your would want to visit Ayaia Napa but hey, do it) by a devilsh Gree speaking Cypriot

[T_C]

I know humanist Piratis just gets to me....I understand some of his views but he doesnt even want to acknowledge mine...Ive tried being nice, Ive tried agreeing with him, Ive tried reasoning with him, Ive accepted the 18% hes always proposing...

What I said wasnt intented to anyone BUT Piratis so please dont take it personal. I know a lot of GCs are aware of what I pointed out but Piratis isnt and I cant help but get really defensive when hes trying to blame us for everything

[Piratis]

turkish_cypriot, you denying the history of this island can not change it.

Have they taught you at your schools about the history of this island?

Cyprus is Hellenic from the time the term "Hellenic" first appeared.

Have you ever read anything about our language and dialect?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadocypriot

Have you ever heard anything about Aphrodite one of the 12 Gods of Olympus who was from Cyprus?

After the Ottoman rule we also have a Turkish minority in Cyprus. So what? How does that change who we are?

What is not true is the fake Cyprus the Turks are trying to create in the part they illegally occupy. They ethnically cleansed the original inhabitants and replaced them with Turks, they rename our towns and villages, they destroy our churches, they produce a ton of lies and propaganda and they do everything they can to hide and destroy what the true Cyprus is.

So in the same way we accept who you are, you should also accept who we are and the history of this island, and stop trying to destroy it just because you don't like it.

[MR-from-NG]

Piratis wrote

So in the same way we accept who you are, you should also accept who we are and the history of this island, and stop trying to destroy it just because you don't like it.

Be who you want to be, do as you want to do in the South. I have no problem with that, just keep your slimy hands off the North.