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[Viewpoint]

I have already stated I would vote yes but I would like to raise one point can anyone put forward a country that was divided in realtion to its population distribution I would be very interested to examine that example, any suggestions Piratis?

[zan]

I did not vote yet because I see no reason to

OK, so if the above proposal was made you would not vote. I am really not interested in anything else you say because I heard your stories so many times I am bored of them.

I will not count any vote from you. If you change your mind let us know.

OH Well. Can I interset you in some double glazing......

[Piratis]

mrfromng, thanks for your vote. I didn't ask you to do anything else than that so don't get too excited.

[T_C]

I think its worth accepting 18% just to shut them up

[Piratis]

I have already stated I would vote yes but I would like to raise one point can anyone put forward a country that was divided in realtion to its population distribution I would be very interested to examine that example, any suggestions Piratis?

No examples. Since the UN were created and international law no country was split by means of ethnically cleansing the majority from a place to make space for some others to have their country there. So there are no such examples.

[zan]

Zan garda?. Lets just accept 18% and go our seperate ways for now. As long as we have recognition NOTHING in that 82% would compare to the state that Turkish Cypriots would build. Just agree to them having their 82% because I know our people will make a lot more of Cyprus than the GCs. Talk is cheap so I wont talk too much but deep down you must KNOW what I mean .

As long as we have recognition and as long as Turkey and her influence is out of our country then NOTHING can stop us. GCs have turned the South into a smaller (all be it prettier) Greece and they've done so voluntarily, while we've had to put up with Turkeys influence because we've had no choice.

We've lived on 3% of the land and in tents before, 18% isnt too bad. We have parition and our own state for now, we build it while our people will for once prosper. Once we're all set up and once GCs see for themselves what kind of Cypriots TCs are and once they're begging us to unite, THEN we negotiate how much bigger our state should be...

Sorry but I dont fall for this ''indigenousness'' either and I think a lot of GCs lost their Cypriotness a LONG time ago (probably from time they started shouting 'ENOSIS').

Our aim shouldn't be to partition Cyprus for good, our aim should be to SHOW GCs whos more Cypriot than who and as long as we have recognition WE WOULD!!!

END OF!!!!

Perhaps you are right kardesim but unless Piratis comes to my president of the TRNC/KKTC with a piece oof paper in his hands and talks directly to him in that capacity then I will not take him too seriously. I still think tthat we should noot allow them to sell of our island as cheaply as they have done so far but perhaps I am being a little too protective.

[MR-from-NG]

Anyways, Zan, thanks for your vote. I take it was a "no". Here I am trying to conclude if an agreed solution is possible or if we should prepare for the next war. Lets leave all the usual discussions for the rest of the threads.

My vote is a big NOtoo. If this offer was officially made by your president to the TCs he would be put in a strait-jacket. Piratis I'm beginning to believe you are more of a Turk hater and more ruthless than your terrorist president.

Thats two for you Piratis. Perhaps you should have a forum of your own if you want to just hear your own voice.

Thank you mrfromng.

Hope your visitors are well.

Thanks for asking Zan. Couldn't be happier. I have my daughter from New York and son from Boston visiting us. These are happy times for my wife and I.

Believe it or not I;m quite content and happy in life, my one and only sadness is the uncertainty of my country. I discuss this with some of my friends and when I tell them my biggest wish in life is to have a final and just solution to the Cyprob and if I die before this is achieved I will die a sad man they think I'm mad

I'm sure you have just as strong a feeling regarding the Cyprob and am sure you understand how I feel.

[MR-from-NG]

I think its worth accepting 18% just to shut them up

T_C, if I know my Greek neighbours well once we Say yes to 18% they will find excuses to reduce it 13%, and then to 9% to 7, 5 and we are back to 3%, most of us living in tents, again.

[zan]

Anyways, Zan, thanks for your vote. I take it was a "no". Here I am trying to conclude if an agreed solution is possible or if we should prepare for the next war. Lets leave all the usual discussions for the rest of the threads.

My vote is a big NOtoo. If this offer was officially made by your president to the TCs he would be put in a strait-jacket. Piratis I'm beginning to believe you are more of a Turk hater and more ruthless than your terrorist president.

Thats two for you Piratis. Perhaps you should have a forum of your own if you want to just hear your own voice.

Thank you mrfromng.

Hope your visitors are well.

Thanks for asking Zan. Couldn't be happier. I have my daughter from New York and son from Boston visiting us. These are happy times for my wife and I.

Believe it or not I;m quite content and happy in life, my one and only sadness is the uncertainty of my country. I discuss this with some of my friends and when I tell them my biggest wish in life is to have a final and just solution to the Cyprob and if I die before this is achieved I will die a sad man they think I'm mad

I'm sure you have just as strong a feeling regarding the Cyprob and am sure you understand how I feel.

I absolutely understand and feel the same way too. The day a just solution can be negosiated the whole of the Cypriot people can breath a sigh of relief and I would not miss that party for the world.


A safe and happy visit from your family and a safe journey home for them also.

Keep safe

[Piratis]

Zan garda?. Lets just accept 18% and go our seperate ways for now. As long as we have recognition NOTHING in that 82% would compare to the state that Turkish Cypriots would build. Just agree to them having their 82% because I know our people will make a lot more of Cyprus than the GCs. Talk is cheap so I wont talk too much but deep down you must KNOW what I mean .

As long as we have recognition and as long as Turkey and her influence is out of our country then NOTHING can stop us. GCs have turned the South into a smaller (all be it prettier) Greece and they've done so voluntarily, while we've had to put up with Turkeys influence because we've had no choice.

We've lived on 3% of the land and in tents before, 18% isnt too bad. We have parition and our own state for now, we build it while our people will for once prosper. Once we're all set up and once GCs see for themselves what kind of Cypriots TCs are and once they're begging us to unite, THEN we negotiate how much bigger our state should be...

Sorry but I dont fall for this ''indigenousness'' either and I think a lot of GCs lost their Cypriotness a LONG time ago (probably from time they started shouting 'ENOSIS').

Our aim shouldn't be to partition Cyprus for good, our aim should be to SHOW GCs whos more Cypriot than who and as long as we have recognition WE WOULD!!!

END OF!!!!

Perhaps you are right kardesim but unless Piratis comes to my president of the TRNC/KKTC with a piece oof paper in his hands and talks directly to him in that capacity then I will not take him too seriously. I still think tthat we should noot allow them to sell of our island as cheaply as they have done so far but perhaps I am being a little too protective.

You have no president and there is no country called "trnc" zan. All you have is a monstrosity created by means of ethnic cleansing recognized only by Turkey and some puppets that pretend that they run it.

Since you don't want a united Cyprus, if you want your dream of having a separate legitimate state to become true then you have to stop being greedy and accept a partition plan that will also be acceptable to us. And as I said earlier you should be the ones who should propose it, since you are the ones who want partition. I am just giving you a clue of the only kind of partition that could possibly be acceptable by a majority of GCs. Anything else (Annan plans etc) will be a waste of time.