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Postby Piratis » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:54 pm

At least you and Humanist are showing a bit of integrity even if it is a misplaced one. Thank you. As usual those two hyenas, Kifeas and Piratis seem to have a price and as long as they think they have got a better deal than we are prepared to accept then they will sell part of Cyprus to whoever wants it. The colour of those two is plain for all to see and it is just the colour of treason to the Cypriot people in total. The island is not yours to play with you pair of vultures it belongs to all Cypriots.


You are the hyena thief who is trying to gain on our loss as much as possible. You are the 18% and you want a lot more land and a lot more power on our expense.

This is why you do not accept the proposal. All this time you were lying about supposedly not accepting a true unification because you didn't want to be ruled by GCs and all the other lies. But it is obvious that the reason you do not accept is nothing else than land. You want our land that you stole from us and everything else is your lame excuses.

On the contrary with my proposal I have shown once more that you are totally wrong when you say that I want GCs alone to rule the whole country. What I want is for GCs to take their fair share, which is 82%. However you thieves want to steal from our share for your own benefit.
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Postby Piratis » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:58 pm

mrfromng wrote:The future of Cyprus is entirely in the GCs hands but nothing can be achieved as long as Papadopulos is in power. You get rid of him you get rid of the Cyprob.


Really? So what would any other president that can have the support of the majority of GCs do different than Papadopoulos? So if in a year from now somebody else is elected then what? The next day the occupation and the illegalities enforced by you for the last 33 years will be over?
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Postby MR-from-NG » Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:00 am

zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:For as long as the indigenous Cypriots are blackmailed and/or forced by an outside power into accepting one political and/or territorial arrangement or another then I can never give my blessing to it.

I have a very strong sense of my Cypriot indigenousness; not just that of the last 3-4 centuries but that of the many millenniums it spans for so to me the Ottoman invasion of 1571 is a very recent event in the history of my country and one of many of the dark events of this island’s turbulent history.

I never allow myself to just concentrate on the contemporary history of Cyprus because I am very much aware that I am merely passing through in life, just as millions of Cypriots have done so before me, so I therefore acknowledge that I HAVE NO AUTHORITY WHATSOEVER TO DONATE ANY PART OF THE COUNTRY I HAVE INHERITTED TO ANY FOREIGNER regardless of the pressure I am under.

I refuse to be part of any scheme that literally hands out a portion of my sacred land to any foreigner as I do not wish to be remembered by my Cypriot successors as one of the foolish generation that crumbled under petty pressure without the slightest fight and embarked on a carving up campaign!

How dare you Cypriots of today think you have the right to carve up that country, with the 10,000 year old history, which you have been entrusted with so that you may pass it on in good health to the next generations?

If you, the indigenous Cypriot have no respect for your motherland Cyprus, how can you expect any of these foreigners to respect you or what you call your country?
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At least you and Humanist are showing a bit of integrity even if it is a misplaced one. Thank you. As usual those two hyenas, Kifeas and Piratis seem to have a price and as long as they think they have got a better deal than we are prepared to accept then they will sell part of Cyprus to whoever wants it. The colour of those two is plain for all to see and it is just the colour of treason to the Cypriot people in total. The island is not yours to play with you pair of vultures it belongs to all Cypriots.


As for You GR and Humanist you make claim to the island in a completely different way in trying to go over our heads and blame Turkey. What do you say to real Turkish Cypriots that say to you that it is time to split even if we are to carry on talking about reunification? The fact of the matter is that the power sharing for the time being at least has to be implemented until we can be sure that the island is in the hands of Cypriots from both sides and not in the hands of those like Kifeas and Piratis. We, Turkish Cypriots want and demand our share. How dare you tell us no. Who the hell are you.


Excellent point Zan.

You may remember a couple of months back when G_R was asking us where our "INVITATIONS" were for being on the island. Posts from Piratis, Kifeas, Sotos and many more is clearly telling us that we are not legitimate inhabitants of the island. Then they wonder why the vast majority of TCs would choose partition over re-unification :shock:
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Postby zan » Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:00 am

Piratis wrote:
At least you and Humanist are showing a bit of integrity even if it is a misplaced one. Thank you. As usual those two hyenas, Kifeas and Piratis seem to have a price and as long as they think they have got a better deal than we are prepared to accept then they will sell part of Cyprus to whoever wants it. The colour of those two is plain for all to see and it is just the colour of treason to the Cypriot people in total. The island is not yours to play with you pair of vultures it belongs to all Cypriots.


You are the hyena thief who is trying to gain on our loss as much as possible. You are the 18% and you want a lot more land and a lot more power on our expense.

This is why you do not accept the proposal. All this time you were lying about supposedly not accepting a true unification because you didn't want to be ruled by GCs and all the other lies. But it is obvious that the reason you do not accept is nothing else than land. You want our land that you stole from us and everything else is your lame excuses.

On the contrary with my proposal I have shown once more that you are totally wrong when you say that I want GCs alone to rule the whole country. What I want is for GCs to take their fair share, which is 82%. However you thieves want to steal from our share for your own benefit.


As I have said before, you have a price to sell a part of Cyprus to whoever wants it. You scream and shout about Turkey and then want to sell her 18%. We are not Turkey on this Forum but Turkish Cypriots and we do not allow you to sell it to anybody. It is our land and our blood that has soaked into it from your bullets. You payed a price and that is what you have got to bargain with. Have some shame and stop talking crap. I want the TRNC/KKTC for TCs but you force my hand and it will go to Turkey and you will have no say iin the matter. It is time to stop the tricks you play and listen top the TCs. Ignore them at your loss.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:01 am

We, Turkish Cypriots want and demand our share. How dare you tell us no. Who the hell are you.

Who denied you your share of 18%? On the contrary it is you who denies to us our share.
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Postby zan » Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:06 am

Piratis wrote:
We, Turkish Cypriots want and demand our share. How dare you tell us no. Who the hell are you.

Who denied you your share of 18%? On the contrary it is you who denies to us our share.


You have been told a thousand times that land distribution does not gop by %s but it does not fit in with nyour propaganda so you ignore it. Why don't you offer that to Turkey while we TCs enjoy our 37%.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:07 am

Is not your 37%. You stole it and you illegally keep it.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:09 am

Piratis wrote:
mrfromng wrote:The future of Cyprus is entirely in the GCs hands but nothing can be achieved as long as Papadopulos is in power. You get rid of him you get rid of the Cyprob.


Really? So what would any other president that can have the support of the majority of GCs do different than Papadopoulos? So if in a year from now somebody else is elected then what? The next day the occupation and the illegalities enforced by you for the last 33 years will be over?


I'm not claiming a new president would solve the problem overnight Piratis but surely your own people must be questioning what he has achieved up to now and if he really has the desire for a solution. I keep hearing that the very wealthy and influential including Papad in your community would rather things stayed as they are for their own financial benefits.

I would say a new approach and a new dynamic force is needed from you guys to make any significant progress in the Cyprob
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Postby Piratis » Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:09 am

Anyways, Zan, thanks for your vote. I take it was a "no". Here I am trying to conclude if an agreed solution is possible or if we should prepare for the next war. Lets leave all the usual discussions for the rest of the threads.
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Postby humanist » Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:10 am

Is not your 37%. You stole it and you illegally keep it.


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