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[Piratis]

Muataga, I am in perfect alignment with UN and the world. I recognize one and only state in Cyprus, the perfectly legal Republic of Cyprus as it is today, just like the UN and the world do.

On the contrary you support the illegal occupation of Cyprus by Turkey and the illegal "trnc" and by that you violate international law and the UN resolutions.

Since you did not show any respect to the UN resolutions all this years a peaceful solution to the Cyprus problem became impossible. Therefore it became clear than only with a war we can get our lands back.
So rot in your pseudo state with zero political power, and when we will liberate our country enforcing the UN resolutions you refuse to obey, remember to remind me that you are not a minority.

[Get Real!]

There are TWO communities in Cyprus and the RoC is supposed to be formed by these TWO communities within a legal framework that grants these two communities equal political status in seperate zones.

I have spoken to you about this before but you seemingly refuse to accept it...

The TC ministers and vice president WALKED OUT NEVER TO RETURN to the recognized/legal RoC (govt) because Turkey told them to after Makarios proposed the "13 points". Turkey's "wise" idea was to offer you guns and ammunition so that you could "negotiate" the Turkic way.

Today, you complain why you don't have your place in the RoC as if time has stood still and nothing happened since that fateful day.

[T_C]

To be honest I dont mind living with GCs and I wouldnt mind if there were the same number of GCs as TCs in our state, but not more...to begin with anyways. I wouldnt mind having majority of the refugees back so long as we keep the same divide.

TCs do things a bit differently and I really dont want to lose that uniquness for nothing!

I just want recognition and would compromise with GCs till we reached some sort of agreement.

Weather its 18% TC state (maybe even lower) OR stay as it is and have (almost) all refugees back to be administered by TCs...without recognition we have to rely on thing like casinos and other horrible things which in turn make us look bad because south government uses these things as propaganda and its no way to make ends meet FULLSTOP.

I read an article in a TC magazine today which highlighted these problems and said that 80% of TCs opposed ANY Casinos, clubs or ''nightclubs'' (whore houses) dealing with ''white women'' (<---I SWEAR THATS WHAT IT SAID )

Still I really wanted to rave this weekend so I arranged to meet up with friends in Kyrenia, we did, but by the time we got to the club (around 11:30) we were told that it wasnt even worth going in because there were ''noise restrictions'' from the government for all the summer clubs which means they must close no later than 1am so they dont disturb the residents!

I dont think the refugees would have a problem living in a TC state because the TCs know what they are doing and would turn their state into a Cypriot HAVEN!...unfortunately at this present time not everything is upto us

[Murataga]

Muataga, I am in perfect alignment with UN and the world. I recognize one and only state in Cyprus, the perfectly legal Republic of Cyprus as it is today, just like the UN and the world do.

On the contrary you support the illegal occupation of Cyprus by Turkey and the illegal "trnc" and by that you violate international law and the UN resolutions.

Since you did not show any respect to the UN resolutions all this years a peaceful solution to the Cyprus problem became impossible. Therefore it became clear than only with a war we can get our lands back.
So rot in your pseudo state with zero political power, and when we will liberate our country enforcing the UN resolutions you refuse to obey, remember to remind me that you are not a minority.

You have the shallow habit of trying to change the subject when you are cornered, I suggest you rid yourself from it. The world acknowledges us ONe of the TWO communities with equal political status to you. You have usurped the State and use that against us. Unfortunately, the political interests of some countries allow you to, for now. You are nothing more than ONE of the TWO communities as even your criminal leader signed in to.

Now please explicitly state whether or not you accept that in the solution of the Cyprus Problem according to the U.N. principles in an RoC: GCs are nothing more than ONE of the TWO communities that have politically equal status to their TC partners in their seperate zone in a federated state called RoC. Do you defy the U.N. and the world on what RoC should be and what your status is in Cyprus? Answer it and I`ll end your embarassment

[Jerry]

You pompous little prat. It's bloody obvious what I did and why I did it, ROUND IN CIRCLES, are you too thick to understand what I was getting at or was it too subtle for you.,

I am not little anb big enough to break the necks of racist cockroaches like you - you megalomaniac piece of shit - so stop calling people names! You are the only fucking pompous LITTLE rat in this forum - all 5ft nothing of you!

Got hat! DICK HEAD!

I'm not sure of how you arrive at the racist slur and I stand by my view that you are a pompous little prat. In the same sentance you call me a "megalomaniac (its a Greek word by the way) piece of shit" and ask me to stop calling people names, does your hypocrisy have no bounds?
Physically you may be big but inside you must be small to resort to the threat of violence when you lose an argument or someone upsets you

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I suggest the TCs stop wasting their breath with you and get on with a more useful thread than this one!

Talking of hypocrisy, are you going to respond or are you going to stop wasting your breath as per your suggestion above?

[Piratis]

Do you defy the U.N. and the world on what RoC should be and what your status is in Cyprus? Answer it and I`ll end your embarassment

This guy is a total joke. How do I defy the UN and the world? I support the one and only legal state in Cyprus, Republic of Cyprus. Did anybody say we are doing something illegal? Can you point to me the resolution that says that RoC as it is today is illegal? Or that Greek Cypriots are doing something illegal?

I can point to you the resolution that your "trnc" is illegal.

RESOLUTION 541 (1983)

Adopted by the Security Council
on 18 November 1983


The Security Council,

Having heard the statement of the Foreign Minister of the Government of the Republic of Cyprus,

Concerned at the declaration by the Turkish Cypriot authorities issued on 15 November 1983 which purports to create in independent state in northern Cyprus,

Considering that this declaration is incompatible with the 1960 Treaty concerning the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus and the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee,

Considering therefore that the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" is invalid, and will contribute to a worsening of the situation in Cyprus,

Reaffirming its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975),

Aware of the need of a solution to the Cyprus problem, based on the mission of good offices undertaken by the Secretary-General,

Affirming its continued support for the United Nations Peace- keeping Force in Cyprus,

Taking note of the Secretary-Generals statement of 17 November 1983,

1. Deplores the declaration of the Turkish Cypriot authorities of the purported secession of part of the Republic of Cyprus;

2. Considers the declaration refereed to above as legally invalid and calls for its withdrawal;

3. Calls for the urgent and effective implementation of its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975);

4. Requests the Secretary-General to peruse his mission of good offices in order to achieve the earliest possible progress towards a just and lasting settlement in Cyprus;

5. Calls upon the parties to co-operate with the Secretary- General in his mission of good offices;

6. Calls upon all states to respect the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and non-alignment of the Republic of Cyprus;

7. Calls upon all states not to recognise any Cypriot state other than the Republic of Cyprus;

8. Calls upon all states and the two communities in Cyprus to refrain from any action which might exacerbate the situation;

9. Requests the Secretary-General to keep the Security Council fully informed.

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

So who is acting illegal is only you.

[Murataga]

Do you defy the U.N. and the world on what RoC should be and what your status is in Cyprus? Answer it and I`ll end your embarassment

This guy is a total joke. How do I defy the UN and the world? I support the one and only legal state in Cyprus, Republic of Cyprus. Did anybody say we are doing something illegal? Can you point to me the resolution that says that RoC as it is today is illegal? Or that Greek Cypriots are doing something illegal?

I can point to you the resolution that your "trnc" is illegal.

Sorry, can`t let you get off that easy. You are sill trying to avoid the question. Answer it and it will all be over. Eve n you can do it:

Please explicitly state whether or not you accept that in the solution of the Cyprus Problem according to the U.N. principles in an RoC: GCs are nothing more than ONE of the TWO communities that have politically equal status to their TC partners in their seperate zone in a federated state called RoC. Do you defy the U.N. and the world on what RoC should be and what your status is in Cyprus?

[Piratis]

So Murataga, in the same way I pointed to you the resolution that clearly states "Deplores the declaration of the Turkish Cypriot authorities of the purported secession of part of the Republic of Cyprus; Considers the declaration refereed to above as legally invalid and calls for its withdrawal" and proved to you that you are acting illegally and you defy the UN resolutions, I call you to show me an equivalent resolution that says that Republic of Cyprus or Greek Cypriots are doing something illegal.

If you will not find such thing, then I demand you withdraw your lies that you said about us supposedly defying UN resolutions and acting illegally.

[Piratis]

Do you accept that the one and only side acting illegally is the Turkish side? Or you deny this fact? Are you afraid to answer this question Murataga? I answered yours about 100 times already. why are you so afraid to answer mine?

[Get Real!]

To be honest I dont mind living with GCs and I wouldnt mind if there were the same number of GCs as TCs in our state, but not more...to begin with anyways. I wouldnt mind having majority of the refugees back so long as we keep the same divide.

TCs do things a bit differently and I really dont want to lose that uniquness for nothing!

I just want recognition and would compromise with GCs till we reached some sort of agreement.

Weather its 18% TC state (maybe even lower) OR stay as it is and have (almost) all refugees back to be administered by TCs...without recognition we have to rely on thing like casinos and other horrible things which in turn make us look bad because south government uses these things as propaganda and its no way to make ends meet FULLSTOP.

I read an article in a TC magazine today which highlighted these problems and said that 80% of TCs opposed ANY Casinos, clubs or ''nightclubs'' (whore houses) dealing with ''white women'' (<---I SWEAR THATS WHAT IT SAID )

Still I really wanted to rave this weekend so I arranged to meet up with friends in Kyrenia, we did, but by the time we got to the club (around 11:30) we were told that it wasnt even worth going in because there were ''noise restrictions'' from the government for all the summer clubs which means they must close no later than 1am so they dont disturb the residents!

I dont think the refugees would have a problem living in a TC state because the TCs know what they are doing and would turn their state into a Cypriot HAVEN!...unfortunately at this present time not everything is upto us

The “TRNC”, or whatever you may wish to call it, cannot pass Macroeconomics and Microeconomics feasibility studies without the annual Turkish aid so if you were to be legally separated from the rest of Cyprus, Turkey would simply close the aid tap and let you starve so you would then be forced to ask for someone’s aid, either Turkey or the RoC and they in turn can annex you.

Having explained that please tell me why the RoC would be foolish enough to give Turkey the opportunity to legally seize a portion of her island?