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Postby DT. » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:09 pm

bigOz wrote:
iceman wrote:
bigOz wrote:
halil wrote:
DT. wrote:
halil wrote:Hİ DT,
what do u mean by ....re yeneka...telione me ta pkiata!


Wife....hurry up with the dishes.

Just because i have no control at home i make myself look like i do in the forum. It makes me feel better.
:D
I can always change it to

Halil...hurry up with your story!! :lol:


Common DT are u kılıbık.... i don't know the english word for it. is there anybody to translate it.

kılıbık
Meaning "HENPECKED"

- browbeaten, bullied, or intimidated by one's wife

- dominated or harassed ( by wife) with persistent nagging

- ruled by his wife

:lol: :lol: :lol:



nahhhh...DT is definately not a kılıbık...If he is washing the dishes there is a very good reason for it that his lady wife is expecting a baby any day...

hey DT...do let us know the new arrival will you...who knows? that might be an excuse for an intercommunal pissup.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Soooo! Now I know why DT is so worried about GC wife giving birth in the TC sector! :D

Have no worries man, they would have to move me, iceman and mmfrong and all our families to South first before they can get to you! :lol:


nah thats just my way of arguing.... emphasise a valid point with an image no one can disagree with...i.e a pregnant woman. :wink:

thats that gone now...i gotta think of something else. Perhaps the GC Bambi not knowing which hillside to graze from?
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:42 am

Absolutely GR but perhaps you should direct this to Papadopoulos who labelled those that said "yes" traitors, almost the day after the referendum and charged them with receiving money to sell, more or less, their country.

The international community has a vested interest in seeing the end of the cyprob. One international issue solved is one issue less. I remind all that we were allowed access to the EU on the assumption that we would cooperate to solve the cyprob on the basis of bizonal, bicommunal federation. What we rejected in 2004 was not merely the Annan plan but the very philosophy of bizonal, bicommunal federation. We may be able to fool our own people on this but we cannot fool the international community. That is why we lost all credibility and all our friends. All we do now is to put the blame elsewhere, a typical cypriot pastime, pretending that strong and powerful want to punish us.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:10 am

The Annan plan was not a bizonal, bicommunal federation, and with rejecting Annan plan we did not reject BBF. If you want let me know and I will tell you several BBF solutions that we would gladly accept.

And stop confusing the "international community" with the Angloamericans and their media.
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:53 am

Fair enough, Zanzibar is also "international community" as well as China whom we paid 60 million bananas for their cannons that they will never dispatch. What about Russia, I hear you ask. Christofias's friend, the Speaker of the Duma, who came to Cyprus the other day, yesterday spoilt the broth, by declaring that our side is also to blame for the non implementation of the July 8 agreement. However, I hear in India we are doing rather well. We can still hope.

You must also realise that the next plan (if ever there will be another plan) will be worst than the Annan plan and you can kiss goodbye Morphou and many other areas that the Annan plan gave back to us. Probably you do realise this and this is why you play the patriotic tune that we should wait for the right moment (when Turkey disintigrates) and claim every single inch back. In the meantime we can enjoy what we have and half Cyprus is better than sharing a whole Cyprus with the pertpetual enemy.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:38 am

China, Russia and India, which together make up about 1/3rd of worlds population are not against us, so don't use bananas and other tricks to show the opposite.

Bananiot as they say : "What is lost with a war is not gained with negotiations". With the Annan plan we didn't regain anything. It was one plus (that 7% of land) and a ton of minuses, in total a huge net loss for us. (an additional loss on top of the invasion).
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Postby zan » Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:52 am

Get Real! wrote:
halil wrote:The Turkish Cypriots have more right than anyone to benefit from the EU, since they said Yes to the Annan Plan whereas the Greek Cypriots said No. In spite of this, the Greek Cypriots were admitted to the EU.

There is a false concept circulating by Turkey and the TC administration that a democratic referendum entails a “reward” and/or “punishment” depending on the referendum’s outcome and this only further proves that they do not understand what a democratic referendum is really all about.

During my permanent residence in Australia many referendums came and went and one that comes to mind was when we had to vote whether or not Australia should become a republic or remain in the commonwealth and thus retain the Queen as the monarch. The result was in favor of remaining in the commonwealth and nobody of course sought punishment for the republicans! What kind of a democratic country would Australia be if the monarchists were to then rush out in the streets and start whipping the republicans?

A referendum is simply a fair and square method to determine what most people, otherwise known as the MAJORITY want over an issue and does not involve any aftermath against those that “lose”!

Regards, GR.


Then what do you call the continuation of the embargos for us then. Reward for you and punnishment for us. You hold the whip and we bare the scares. :roll:
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Postby Piratis » Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:05 am

Then what do you call the continuation of the embargos for us then. Reward for you and punnishment for us. You hold the whip and we bare the scares.


The punishment is not for what you voted in the referendum but for the crimes and illegalities you insist upon, like occupying part of the independent and sovereign Republic of Cyprus.

Annan plan was nothing more than a proposal which is now null and void. They asked us: "Are you willing to dissolve RoC and accept this other agreement? Only if you agree this will happen, otherwise this proposal will be null and void".
We said "no" of course as it was our right. If you want us to accept something other than RoC then you have to bring a plan that will be not worse for us than RoC.

However you are with the false idea that you "won the war" and now you have to gain on our loss. Not the case. We are not obligated to accept anything which is worst for us that RoC. So rot in your pseudo until Cyprus will be liberated, or end the illegal occupation and come back to RoC.
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Postby zan » Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:13 am

Piratis wrote:
Then what do you call the continuation of the embargos for us then. Reward for you and punnishment for us. You hold the whip and we bare the scares.


The punishment is not for what you voted in the referendum but for the crimes and illegalities you insist upon, like occupying part of the independent and sovereign Republic of Cyprus.

Annan plan was nothing more than a proposal which is now null and void. They asked us: "Are you willing to dissolve RoC and accept this other agreement? Only if you agree this will happen, otherwise this proposal will be null and void".
We said "no" of course as it was our right. If you want us to accept something other than RoC then you have to bring a plan that will be not worse for us than RoC.

However you are with the false idea that you "won the war" and now you have to gain on our loss. Not the case. We are not obligated to accept anything which is worst for us that RoC. So rot in your pseudo until Cyprus will be liberated, or end the illegal occupation and come back to RoC.


Nothing to do with winning the war it is more like you lost your right to persecute us in the name of ENOSIS. The "RoC" you claim is not the one that was set up by the Zurick agreement but by false representation by the Greek administration. The fact that the EU has fallen for it is another matter all together. You are still claiming the Zurick agreement and therefore the whole island when every move that is made in a political sense is contrary to that agreement without us. You ahve wanted to get full controll of the island since day one and you think you have now with an illegal entiy under the Zurick agreement. The embargos will be lifted and the EU will have to honour its promise to us. The only ones that are standing in the way is you and if that is not for punishment to us for your crimes then I don't know what is.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:23 am

If you want RoC as it was set up by Zurich agreement then end the occupation and return to RoC. If we refuse to accept you THEN you will be able to make your accusations. As it stands now it is you who is choosing illegality, not us.
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Postby bigOz » Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:24 am

Piratis wrote:Bananiot as they say : "What is lost with a war is not gained with negotiations". With the Annan plan we didn't regain anything. It was one plus (that 7% of land) and a ton of minuses, in total a huge net loss for us. (an additional loss on top of the invasion).

I believe the original saying was:
"What is won in war is not given away by negitiations"!
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