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Postby halil » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:04 am

OOOOOPPPPPPPSSSSSS SOME İDİOTS ARE SPOİLET OUR PAGE:LUNCH AT FLUE CAFE:
SPECİALY MODERATOR OF THE THİS FORUM DOES İT !!!!!!!! ????????? *********

İ will tell u a story my dear friends Bananiot, DT, GR, T_C,İceman .

There was a huge Frog Community ..... one day they were organising a exebition...... Race started...... who was going to climb as high as high....... nobody was supporting the racers..... no,noooo, nooooo, they can not do it.......
some of the racers moral was null after this slogans...... by one after one they were leaving the race....... BUT THERE WAS A ONE OLD FROG he never gave up ...... at the end he finished the race....... ALL THE CROWDED WAS shouting to him what a great man u are...... you have achived the unbeliveable thing....... they were trying to ask him how he has done it........
do u know what was it.......?????
HE WAS A DEAFT::::::: HE Could not hear at all........
YOU ALL UNDERSTOOD WHAT İ AM SAYİNG !!!!!!! YOU LOT.
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Postby Murataga » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:07 am

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Murataga wrote:You are still trying to change the subject. Don`t change the subject: There are TWO communities on the island with politically equal status. You are nothing more than ONe of these TWO. Do you deny this?

Yes, I deny it.


I rest my case.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:12 am

Murataga wrote:
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Murataga wrote:You are still trying to change the subject. Don`t change the subject: There are TWO communities on the island with politically equal status. You are nothing more than ONe of these TWO. Do you deny this?

Yes, I deny it. We are the ones who run the one and only legitimate state in Cyprus because you choose illegality instead of being part of RoC and therefore your political status is zero. Our political status is that of an equal EU member, much higher than the pseudo state status that you choose to have.


I rest my case.


It was about time
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Postby Murataga » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:21 am

Piratis wrote:
Murataga wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Murataga wrote:You are still trying to change the subject. Don`t change the subject: There are TWO communities on the island with politically equal status. You are nothing more than ONe of these TWO. Do you deny this?

Yes, I deny it. We are the ones who run the one and only legitimate state in Cyprus because you choose illegality instead of being part of RoC and therefore your political status is zero. Our political status is that of an equal EU member, much higher than the pseudo state status that you choose to have.


I rest my case.


It was about time


Would have been even sooner if you confessed denying the principles of our political equivalence as acknowledged by the U.N., the world and your criminal leader at an earlier time.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:32 am

You deny yourselves your political rights since you choose illegality instead of legality. Not my fault.
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Postby Murataga » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:34 am

Murataga wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Murataga wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Murataga wrote:You are still trying to change the subject. Don`t change the subject: There are TWO communities on the island with politically equal status. You are nothing more than ONe of these TWO. Do you deny this?

Yes, I deny it. We are the ones who run the one and only legitimate state in Cyprus because you choose illegality instead of being part of RoC and therefore your political status is zero. Our political status is that of an equal EU member, much higher than the pseudo state status that you choose to have.


I rest my case.


It was about time


Would have been even sooner if you confessed denying the principles of our political equivalence as acknowledged by the U.N., the world and your criminal leader at an earlier time.


And just for the sake of clearity for those that followed the set of posts. Here is what is being denied :

U.N. Resolution 750 (April 1992) (which has been reaffirmed annually since then)-

“Reaffirms the position set out in resolutions 649 (1990) of March 12 1990 and 716 (1991) October 11 1991 that a Cyprus settlement must be based on a State of Cyprus with a single sovereignty and international personality and a single citizenship, with its independence and territorial integrity safeguarded, and comprising two politically equal communities as defined in Paragraph 11 of Secretary-General’s report in a b-communal and bi-zonal federation, and that such a settlement must exclude union in whole or in part with any other country or any form of partition or secession;”
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Postby Murataga » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:45 am

Piratis wrote:You deny yourselves your political rights since you choose illegality instead of legality. Not my fault.



You just confessed that you deny the rights acknowledged by the U.N. and the rest of the world for the TC community in Cyprus. What are you talking about?
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Postby Piratis » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:47 am

Marataga, what you quoted refers to a future solution. Not what is legal now. What is legal today is the RoC agreements of 1960. For anything else to become legal it has to be approved by the Cypriot people.

OK how about if we both agree that ALL UN resolutions should be accepted. Do you agree?

We can even start with what you quoted:

Reaffirms the position set out in resolutions 649 (1990) of March 12 1990 and 716 (1991) October 11 1991 that a Cyprus settlement must be based on a State of Cyprus with a single sovereignty and international personality and a single citizenship, with its independence and territorial integrity safeguarded, and comprising two politically equal communities as defined in Paragraph 11 of Secretary-General’s report in a b-communal and bi-zonal federation, and that such a settlement must exclude union in whole or in part with any other country or any form of partition or secession


Do you accept everything in the above quote Murataga?
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Postby Murataga » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:54 am

Piratis wrote:Marataga, what you quoted refers to a future solution. Not what is legal now. What is legal today is the RoC agreements of 1960. For anything else to become legal it has to be approved by the Cypriot people.

OK how about if we both agree that ALL UN resolutions should be accepted. Do you agree?

We can even start with what you quoted:

Reaffirms the position set out in resolutions 649 (1990) of March 12 1990 and 716 (1991) October 11 1991 that a Cyprus settlement must be based on a State of Cyprus with a single sovereignty and international personality and a single citizenship, with its independence and territorial integrity safeguarded, and comprising two politically equal communities as defined in Paragraph 11 of Secretary-General’s report in a b-communal and bi-zonal federation, and that such a settlement must exclude union in whole or in part with any other country or any form of partition or secession


Do you accept everything in the above quote Murataga?


There are tens of statements by all leaders of the world and even your leader that we are TWO communities with equal political status that have a right to two seperate zones in a federated State in Cyprus. What I quote refers to our rights in Cyprus and how those rights reflect in in the legal state of RoC. As far as its recognition: I agree with it word for word.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:58 am

Do you agree with these resolutions also:

Resolution 353 (1974)
of July 20 1974

The Security Council,



Having considered the report of the Secretary-General, at its 1779th meeting, about the recent developments in Cyprus,



Having heard the statement of the President of the Republic of Cyprus and the statements of the representatives of Cyprus, Turkey, Greece and other Member States,



Having considered at its present meeting further developments in the island,

Deeply deploring the outbreak of violence and the continuing bloodshed,



Gravely concerned about the situation which has led to a serious threat to international peace and security, and which has created a most explosive situation in the whole Eastern Mediterranean area,



Equally concerned about the necessity to restore the constitutional structure of the Republic of Cyprus, established and guaranteed by international agreements,



Recalling its resolution 186 (1964) of 4 March 1964 and its subsequent resolutions on this matter,



Conscious of its primary responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security in accordance with Article 24 of the Charter of the United Nations,



1. Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of Cyprus.



2. Calls upon all parties to the present fighting as a first step to cease all firing and requests all States to exercise the utmost restraint and to refrain from any action which might further aggravate the situation;



3. Demands an immediate end to foreign military intervention in the Republic of Cyprus that is in contravention of the provisions of paragraph 1 above;



4. Requests the withdrawal without delay from the Republic of Cyprus of foreign military personnel present otherwise than under the authority of international agreements, including those whose withdrawal was requested by the President of the Republic of Cyprus, Archbishop Makarios, in his letter of 2 July 1974;



5. Calls upon Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to enter into negotiations without delay for the restoration of peace in the area and constitutional government of Cyprus and to keep the Secretary-General informed;



6. Calls upon all parties to co-operate fully with the United Nations Peace-keeping Force in Cyprus to enable it to carry out its mandate;



7. Decides to keep the situation under constant review and asks the Secretary-General to report as appropriate with a view to adopting further measures in order to ensure that peaceful conditions are restored as soon as possible.


RESOLUTION 541 (1983)

Adopted by the Security Council
on 18 November 1983


The Security Council,

Having heard the statement of the Foreign Minister of the Government of the Republic of Cyprus,

Concerned at the declaration by the Turkish Cypriot authorities issued on 15 November 1983 which purports to create in independent state in northern Cyprus,

Considering that this declaration is incompatible with the 1960 Treaty concerning the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus and the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee,

Considering therefore that the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" is invalid, and will contribute to a worsening of the situation in Cyprus,

Reaffirming its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975),

Aware of the need of a solution to the Cyprus problem, based on the mission of good offices undertaken by the Secretary-General,

Affirming its continued support for the United Nations Peace- keeping Force in Cyprus,

Taking note of the Secretary-Generals statement of 17 November 1983,

1. Deplores the declaration of the Turkish Cypriot authorities of the purported secession of part of the Republic of Cyprus;

2. Considers the declaration refereed to above as legally invalid and calls for its withdrawal;

3. Calls for the urgent and effective implementation of its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975);

4. Requests the Secretary-General to peruse his mission of good offices in order to achieve the earliest possible progress towards a just and lasting settlement in Cyprus;

5. Calls upon the parties to co-operate with the Secretary- General in his mission of good offices;

6. Calls upon all states to respect the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and non-alignment of the Republic of Cyprus;

7. Calls upon all states not to recognise any Cypriot state other than the Republic of Cyprus;

8. Calls upon all states and the two communities in Cyprus to refrain from any action which might exacerbate the situation;

9. Requests the Secretary-General to keep the Security Council fully informed.

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm


RESOLUTION 550 (1984)

Adopted by the Security Council
on 11 May 1984

The Security Council,

Having considered the situation in Cyprus at the request of the Government of the Republic of Cyprus,

Having heard the statement made by the President of the Republic of Cyprus,

Taking note of the report of the Secretary General (S/16519),

Recalling its resolutions 365(1974), 367(1975), 541(1983) and 544(1983),

Deeply regretting the non-implementation of its resolutions, in particular resolution 541(1983),

Gravely concerned about the further secessionist acts in the occupied part of the Republic of Cyprus which are in violation of Resolution 541(1983), namely the purported "exchange of Ambassadors" between Turkey and the legally invalid "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" and the contemplated holding of a "constitutional referendum" and "elections", as well as by other actions aimed at further consolidating the purported independent state and the division of Cyprus,

Deeply concerned about recent threats for settlement of Varosha by people other than its inhabitants,

Reaffirms its support for the United Nations Peace-Keeping Force in Cyprus,

1. Reaffirming its resolution 541(1983) and calls for its urgent and effective implementation;

2. Condemns all secessionist actions, including the purported exchange of Ambassadors between Turkey and the Turkish Cypriot Leadership, declares them illegal and invalid and calls for their immediate withdrawal;

3. Reaffirms the call upon all States not to recognise the purported state of the "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" set up by secessionist acts and calls upon them not to facilitate or in any way assist this the aforesaid secessionist entity;

4. Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity, unity and non-alignment of the Republic of Cyprus;

5. Considers attempts to settle any part of Varosha by people other than its inhabitants as inadmissible and calls for the transfer of this area to the administration of the United Nations;

6. Considers any attempts to interfere with the status or the deployment of the United Nations Peace-Keeping Force in Cyprus as country to the resolutions of the United Nations;

7. Requests the Secretary General to promote the urgent implementation of Security Council resolution 541(1983);

8. Reaffirms its mandate of good offices given to the Secretary General and requests him to undertake new efforts to attain an overall solution to the Cyprus problem in conformity with the principles of the Charter of The United Nations and the provisions for such a settlement laid down in the pertinent United Nations resolutions, including Security Council resolution 541(1983) and the present resolution;

9. Calls upon all parties to co-operate with the Secretary General in his mission of good offices;

10. Decides to remain seized of the situation with a view to taking urgent and appropriate measures in the event of non-implementation of its resolution 541(1983) and the present resolution;

11. Requests the Secretary General to promote the implementation of the resolution and to report thereon to the Security Council as developments require.

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr550.htm
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