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Postby Murataga » Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:48 am

Piratis wrote:When I talk to you I always have to drop low in order to communicate with you in a language that you small brain can understand.


I love breaking down the likes of you like this 8) But, nope... sorry I can`t let you get off that easy. No amout of cussing and trying to change the subject is going to save you. You will deal with it: you are ONE of the TWO communites on this island. This is a fact of Cyprus recognized by the world. Come on say it now; don`t be shy...
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Postby Piratis » Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:57 am

Nobody said that your minority can not be part of Cyprus. On the contrary I said that Cyprus as an EU country respects all minorities.

What does that have to do with the long Hellenic history of our island?

You keep repeating this "one of the two" thing will not make you any good. Cyprus is just one, not two, with president his excellency Mr. Tassos Papadopoulos. Thats what the whole world recognizes.
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Postby Murataga » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:04 am

Piratis wrote:Nobody said that your minority can not be part of Cyprus. On the contrary I said that Cyprus as an EU country respects all minorities.

What does that have to do with the long Hellenic history of our island?

You keep repeating this "one of the two" thing will not make you any good. Cyprus is just one, not two, with president his excellency Mr. Tassos Papadopoulos. Thats what the whole world recognizes.


I really don`t give sh.. about your Hellenic history or your criminal leader. The fact recognized by the world is that there are TWO communities living in Cyprus; and that you are only ONE of those TWO communities. The one repeating this is the U.N. Secretary General`s report every year and the rest of the world at every opportunity. Deal with it.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:15 am

I really don`t give sh.. about your Hellenic history


This shows your barbaric nature. Your community is now living in Cyprus and you should leave your Turkish nationalism and learn to show some more respect to your host nation and its history.

The fact recognized by the whole world is that there is one country, Cyprus, which has a Greek Cypriot president, a Greek national anthem, and a Greek majority. OK, sure, they also recognize that there is a TC community as well. Why not? Here we are an EU country and we recognize our minorities. Not like in Turkey who they deny the existence of the Kurdish community.
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Postby Murataga » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:22 am

Piratis wrote:OK, sure, they also recognize that there is a TC community as well. Why not? Here we are an EU country and we recognize our minorities.


Nope, wrong again. What is recognized by the world is not that there is also a TC community but that there are TWO communities that you being ONE and us being ONE. You are nothing more than ONE of the TWO communities. And the world acknowledges this along with your criminal president.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:31 am

As I explained you in another thread, the ONE is 82% and the TWO is 18%, so the TWO is a minority. Anyways, I am trying to keep myself as low as possible to have a discussion with you, but I can not drop below elementary school math. So, continue with your ONE and TWO and then lets see how long it will take you to learn THREE.
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Postby Murataga » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:37 am

Piratis wrote:As I explained you in another thread, the ONE is 82% and the TWO is 18%, so the TWO is a minority. Anyways, I am trying to keep myself as low as possible to have a discussion with you, but I can not drop below elementary school math. So, continue with your ONE and TWO and then lets see how long it will take you to learn THREE.


Again with the insults as you are cornered... how sad. What is elementary, what is recognized by the world, what is recognized by your criminal leader is that there are TWO communities living in Cyprus with equal political status and that you are nothing more than a community in Cyprus with the TCs being the other. I will continue with this as long as it takes, the world will continue with this as long as it takes and the U.N. will continue with this annually in their Resolutions as long as it takes. That is, as long as it takes for the likes of you to cope with it.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:45 am

What is recognized by the rest of the world is Republic of Cyprus. So now little Murataga, tell us who is the president of Cyprus, what is the national anthem of Cyprus, which is the dominant language in Cyprus, which is the dominant religion in Cyprus? And after you do that go open a book or two about the long Hellenic History of our island.

Meanwhile, take some resolutions as you asked for them:

Resolution 353 (1974)
of July 20 1974

The Security Council,



Having considered the report of the Secretary-General, at its 1779th meeting, about the recent developments in Cyprus,



Having heard the statement of the President of the Republic of Cyprus and the statements of the representatives of Cyprus, Turkey, Greece and other Member States,



Having considered at its present meeting further developments in the island,

Deeply deploring the outbreak of violence and the continuing bloodshed,



Gravely concerned about the situation which has led to a serious threat to international peace and security, and which has created a most explosive situation in the whole Eastern Mediterranean area,



Equally concerned about the necessity to restore the constitutional structure of the Republic of Cyprus, established and guaranteed by international agreements,



Recalling its resolution 186 (1964) of 4 March 1964 and its subsequent resolutions on this matter,



Conscious of its primary responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security in accordance with Article 24 of the Charter of the United Nations,



1. Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of Cyprus.



2. Calls upon all parties to the present fighting as a first step to cease all firing and requests all States to exercise the utmost restraint and to refrain from any action which might further aggravate the situation;



3. Demands an immediate end to foreign military intervention in the Republic of Cyprus that is in contravention of the provisions of paragraph 1 above;



4. Requests the withdrawal without delay from the Republic of Cyprus of foreign military personnel present otherwise than under the authority of international agreements, including those whose withdrawal was requested by the President of the Republic of Cyprus, Archbishop Makarios, in his letter of 2 July 1974;



5. Calls upon Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to enter into negotiations without delay for the restoration of peace in the area and constitutional government of Cyprus and to keep the Secretary-General informed;



6. Calls upon all parties to co-operate fully with the United Nations Peace-keeping Force in Cyprus to enable it to carry out its mandate;



7. Decides to keep the situation under constant review and asks the Secretary-General to report as appropriate with a view to adopting further measures in order to ensure that peaceful conditions are restored as soon as possible.
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RESOLUTION 541 (1983)

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on 18 November 1983


The Security Council,

Having heard the statement of the Foreign Minister of the Government of the Republic of Cyprus,

Concerned at the declaration by the Turkish Cypriot authorities issued on 15 November 1983 which purports to create in independent state in northern Cyprus,

Considering that this declaration is incompatible with the 1960 Treaty concerning the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus and the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee,

Considering therefore that the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" is invalid, and will contribute to a worsening of the situation in Cyprus,

Reaffirming its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975),

Aware of the need of a solution to the Cyprus problem, based on the mission of good offices undertaken by the Secretary-General,

Affirming its continued support for the United Nations Peace- keeping Force in Cyprus,

Taking note of the Secretary-Generals statement of 17 November 1983,

1. Deplores the declaration of the Turkish Cypriot authorities of the purported secession of part of the Republic of Cyprus;

2. Considers the declaration refereed to above as legally invalid and calls for its withdrawal;

3. Calls for the urgent and effective implementation of its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975);

4. Requests the Secretary-General to peruse his mission of good offices in order to achieve the earliest possible progress towards a just and lasting settlement in Cyprus;

5. Calls upon the parties to co-operate with the Secretary- General in his mission of good offices;

6. Calls upon all states to respect the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and non-alignment of the Republic of Cyprus;

7. Calls upon all states not to recognise any Cypriot state other than the Republic of Cyprus;

8. Calls upon all states and the two communities in Cyprus to refrain from any action which might exacerbate the situation;

9. Requests the Secretary-General to keep the Security Council fully informed.

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm
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Postby Murataga » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:51 am

Piratis wrote:What is recognized by the rest of the world is Republic of Cyprus. So now little Murataga, tell us who is the president of Cyprus, what is the national anthem of Cyprus, which is the dominant language in Cyprus, which is the dominant religion in Cyprus? And after you do that go open a book or two about the long Hellenic History of our island.



Sure, of course I don`t deny your crimes and illegalities that you are so proud of. What is also not being denied by the world, by the U.N. and by your criminal leader, which you consistently yet pathetically deny, is that you are just a community that has politically equal status to us in Cyprus.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:55 am

When are we going to have the maturity to realise that we cannot change the past,people....the only thing we can do is to learn from it....And number one lesson should be :We are in this mess because we couldn't let go of our origins...And because we chose to let others highlight our differences,and force us down the path of division and ethnic cleansing....
But we can do something about the future...we can chose to highlight our similarities...Our common homeland,traditions,culture,humour,food,world view,sense of identity...We can learn to respect our differences and learn from each other....How much richer we would all be if we could all speak each others languages,and pray (if we want) to each others' God (which happen to be the same one,for believers)....come on people,are we that far gone down the path of bitterness,resentment, and dare I say hatred,that the only thing that will solve our problem is the extinction of one of our communities????I refuse to believe it....We can and will build trust from bottom up....We will manage to become one nation....We will learn how to live together as one people,loving and respecting our homeland....There is plenty of goodness and compassion in all of us to make that happen.We just have to recognise the walls we have built in our heads and our hearts....Once they come down,the rest will follow....like day follows night... 8) :) :)
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