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[humanist]

Get Real said

Here's a multiple choice question for you T_C. If you reply correctly I'll take you to Ayia Napa tonight as a treat! Here goes...

Q. How much of Cypriot land did Turkish Cypriots own in 01-Jan-1571 ?

A. 12.3%
B. 0%
C. 4.7%
D. 2.5%
E. None of the above.

Whilst this is a question you posed G_R I don't think it is relevant to any debate on today's Cyprus and the porportion of land. Yes in relation to population ratios it is believed that Turkish speaking Cypriots own 18% of Cypriot land. However the important thing to keep in mind here they own it all over Cyprus, some have land in Pahos, Lemesos, Kerinia, Peristerona all over and that is excactly what they are entitled too and rightly so.

My sugestion is they claim just that what is righfully theirs. And that way I can claim my grandmothers property and Sotos his, Birkibrisli his in Paphos and that beautiful vilage of his.

[humanist]

Piratis said

We said VP, there would be no GCs in that 18% and no TCs in that 82%. As it stands now there are much more more TCs living in the free areas, so if one should have been asking for more using this reason those should have been us, not you.

Piratis what is the turkish speaking cypriot population in the free areas, your asistance her will be appreciated, thanks

[humanist]

lena said

@Humanist
Humanist my dear…I am sorry that I will let you down … but no I am not back yet…is just that I got the link from T_C and couldn’t resist…I will be back soon…but not now. As for the tall guys I guess you and T_C will have a fight on that…lucky me all the tall ones for me

Oh Lena, I do miss you. But also understand that you have life beyond cyprus-forum. Keep well and I think I will ask T_C personally about his taste in hu-man. am making an assumption though I think I may be correct in my assumption

[DT.]

lena said

@Humanist
Humanist my dear…I am sorry that I will let you down … but no I am not back yet…is just that I got the link from T_C and couldn’t resist…I will be back soon…but not now. As for the tall guys I guess you and T_C will have a fight on that…lucky me all the tall ones for me

Oh Lena, I do miss you. But also understand that you have life beyond cyprus-forum. Keep well and I think I will ask T_C personally about his taste in hu-man. am making an assumption though I think I may be correct in my assumption

You thinking what i think you're thinking about TC?

[Piratis]

So you better start working on reunification,as that is the only way our country and our nation will find the peace and prosperity she deserves...

Bir, I hope you know by now that what I want is not partition. But can't you see that the majority of TCs want to have a separate part of Cyprus which they will rule just by themselves? No matter what you label a result that would satisfy that demand of TCs, in reality it will be partition.

The only realistic alternative would be to wait until the time that enforcing unification would be possible. Would you prefer that? It would of course be totally legal and better in many respects, but obviously worst in many other respects (e.g. many people would have to die)

Alternatives such as convincing TCs and Turkey to accept a true unification do not seem realistic to me.

[Murataga]

So you better start working on reunification,as that is the only way our country and our nation will find the peace and prosperity she deserves...

Bir, I hope you know by now that what I want is not partition. But can't you see that the majority of TCs want to have a separate part of Cyprus which they will rule just by themselves? No matter what you label a result that would satisfy that demand of TCs, in reality it will be partition.

The only realistic alternative would be to wait until the time that enforcing unification would be possible. Would you prefer that? It would of course be totally legal and better in many respects, but obviously worst in many other respects (e.g. many people would have to die)

Alternatives such as convincing TCs and Turkey to accept a true unification do not seem realistic to me.

A Hellenic Cyprus republic disguised under "unification" will always be refused and resisted by the Turkish Cypriots. No amount of politics and propaganda on your part is ever going to change this, period.

[Piratis]

So you better start working on reunification,as that is the only way our country and our nation will find the peace and prosperity she deserves...

Bir, I hope you know by now that what I want is not partition. But can't you see that the majority of TCs want to have a separate part of Cyprus which they will rule just by themselves? No matter what you label a result that would satisfy that demand of TCs, in reality it will be partition.

The only realistic alternative would be to wait until the time that enforcing unification would be possible. Would you prefer that? It would of course be totally legal and better in many respects, but obviously worst in many other respects (e.g. many people would have to die)

Alternatives such as convincing TCs and Turkey to accept a true unification do not seem realistic to me.

A Hellenic Cyprus republic disguised under "unification" will always be refused and resisted by the Turkish Cypriots. No amount of politics and propaganda on your part is ever going to change this, period.

But Cyprus has been Hellenic for over 3000 years now.

By ethnically cleansing the majority of the population, changing the names of our villages, destroying our churches and all the usual barbarian acts that you do, you can only create for yourself in the occupied areas an illegal fake kind of Cyprus that unfortunately for you will not last for long since either you like it or not one day the Turks will be kicked out of Cyprus just like all the other foreign invadors before them.

[Viewpoint]

So you better start working on reunification,as that is the only way our country and our nation will find the peace and prosperity she deserves...

Bir, I hope you know by now that what I want is not partition. But can't you see that the majority of TCs want to have a separate part of Cyprus which they will rule just by themselves? No matter what you label a result that would satisfy that demand of TCs, in reality it will be partition.

The only realistic alternative would be to wait until the time that enforcing unification would be possible. Would you prefer that? It would of course be totally legal and better in many respects, but obviously worst in many other respects (e.g. many people would have to die)

Alternatives such as convincing TCs and Turkey to accept a true unification do not seem realistic to me.

A Hellenic Cyprus republic disguised under "unification" will always be refused and resisted by the Turkish Cypriots. No amount of politics and propaganda on your part is ever going to change this, period.

But Cyprus has been Hellenic for over 3000 years now.

By ethnically cleansing the majority of the population, changing the names of our villages, destroying our churches and all the usual barbarian acts that you do, you can only create for yourself in the occupied areas an illegal fake kind of Cyprus that unfortunately for you will not last for long since either you like it or not one day the Turks will be kicked out of Cyprus just like all the other foreign invadors before them.

Does that translate to Cyprus is Greek? nothing really changes. You wait for your swing vs my recognition lets see which comes first

[Murataga]

But Cyprus has been Hellenic for over 3000 years now.

No. You, as ONE of the TWO communities in Cyprus have been Hellenic in in Cyprus. We, the TCs, as ONE of the TWO are not. The sooner you get this the better. A Hellenic Cyprus republic disguised under "unification" will always be refused and resisted by the Turkish Cypriots. No amount of politics and propaganda on your part is ever going to change this, period.

[Piratis]

Cyprus is Hellenic in the same way that Russia and Serbia are Slavic and Egypt and Iraq are Arabic. The history and the population of Cyprus make it what it is, and the fact that there is a minority of TCs does not of course change this. If it was like that, then Greece would not be Hellenic either because they have a minority of Muslims. (and the same for every other country)

You wait for your swing vs my recognition lets see which comes first

You will never get recognition. But for the sake of arguing, even if you got, and then the swing came, whats the difference? We would again take our lands back anyways. So if you get recognition or not is actually irrelevant in this case.