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SIMILARITIES BETWEEN ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY

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Postby Eliko » Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:11 pm

Southerner, it crossed my mind as to whether the 'Incident' could be in any way connected to the fact that Gordon Brown is the new Prime Minister, an excellent ploy to establish his credentials in these troubled times.

Could well make a good topic for analysis among us all don't you think ?................... :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
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Postby Southerner » Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:47 pm

Eliko wrote:Southerner, it crossed my mind as to whether the 'Incident' could be in any way connected to the fact that Gordon Brown is the new Prime Minister, an excellent ploy to establish his credentials in these troubled times.

Could well make a good topic for analysis among us all don't you think ?................... :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:



I think it's the kind of stunt that Maggie (there's never a war when you need one) Thatcher would pull.
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Postby QAMERSLAND » Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:08 pm

thank you Eliko,

there are many people i have found in this forum who has week knowledge about the diffrent faiths.

we are here to share our faith and respect others faith. you have been seen how they abuse to others faith without knowing it but becoz of some folwer of it.

it is unfair. we have not abuse to anyone's faith. we invite anyone to share with us.

the people who are trying to give bad name to islam actually dont even know about Islam.

how can i say something bad about a book or the follower of this book when i myself have not read or understand this book?

i am here to folow the folowing verse of The Quran(last and final testment)


Al-Qur'an 3:64

Say (O Muhammad SAW): "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians): Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allah (Alone), and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah. Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims."
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Postby QAMERSLAND » Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:16 pm

miltiades wrote:Never ate pork , never had alcohol , never had sex , I just blew my self up and killed a dozen Iraqis while they were coming out of the mosque. Now can I have a few virgins ?


not a tall but you will be inshallah in hell fire where you will get the punishment of killing innocent people. Islam does not justify any criminals
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Postby Southerner » Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:34 pm

QAMERSLAND I have asked many questions of you and others about variuos actions/rituals etc carried out in islamic countries and also in countries that are hosts to islamic people. The best that any of you ever come up with is yes but Bush does this and Blair does that, when you can come up with a proper response to my questions maybe progress will be made.
The teminology that you use is not even modern day English but belongs to Tales of the Arabian Nights period, people don't speak to each other as you do. The text of the modern English Bible has been brought up to a more modern terminology. Many words in the English language now have a completely different meaning than they had originaly.
So please answer all of my quetions about all the disgusting/barbaric happenings carried out under the instructions of muslim religiuos leaders.
Don't just say that they are not following the teachings of the koran I want to know what you are going to do about it; because if you are not doing anything then I sugest that you put your own house in order first.
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Postby Southerner » Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:37 pm

Eliko wrote:Southerner, it crossed my mind as to whether the 'Incident' could be in any way connected to the fact that Gordon Brown is the new Prime Minister, an excellent ploy to establish his credentials in these troubled times.

Could well make a good topic for analysis among us all don't you think ?................... :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:


I'd just love to see the photographs of the guy who got out of the Mercedes although he will probably say a man paid him to take it there for a friend to pick up.
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Postby QAMERSLAND » Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:37 pm

Southerner wrote:QAMERSLAND I have asked many questions of you and others about variuos actions/rituals etc carried out in islamic countries and also in countries that are hosts to islamic people. The best that any of you ever come up with is yes but Bush does this and Blair does that, when you can come up with a proper response to my questions maybe progress will be made.
The teminology that you use is not even modern day English but belongs to Tales of the Arabian Nights period, people don't speak to each other as you do. The text of the modern English Bible has been brought up to a more modern terminology. Many words in the English language now have a completely different meaning than they had originaly.
So please answer all of my quetions about all the disgusting/barbaric happenings carried out under the instructions of muslim religiuos leaders.
Don't just say that they are not following the teachings of the koran I want to know what you are going to do about it; because if you are not doing anything then I sugest that you put your own house in order first.


thank you to ask about Islam.

i have been trying to answer all the questions from diffrent brothers and sisters but may be i have missed yours.

i would like you to please camb down, we will disscuss about everything.

i want to make one thing very clear to you. it is only acceptable if any Muslim in Any part of the word do somthing that is according to Koran and Hadith otherwise they will be punish. we muslims do not believe that if you just become muslim is enough to enter the Heaven, i would like to write here a small part of the Koran that is minimum critaria to enter Heaven.

Surah 103. The Declining Day, Eventide, The Epoch

1. By (the Token of) Time (through the ages),

2. Verily Man is in loss,

3. Except such as have Faith, and do righteous deeds, and (join together) in the mutual teaching of Truth, and of Patience and Constancy.



if a muslim is involved in killing any innocent human being Whether a muslim or a non muslim, he will be punished in hell fire.

i am muslim(the one who submitt his will to the will of God), i have not seen in my life living in Muslim countries and non Muslim countiries what you are describing. there must be some black sheeps as they are in any society but you can not potray them as examplery muslims.

there are about 57 muslim state in the world but only few are having Koran as constitution, if you go and live in saudi arabia, you will find that the crime rate is minimum as compared to the most Advance country USA.

Islam give choice to man and woman to decide to live with each other or they can get divorced for any reason. islam teaches to marry before having sexual relationship because in marriage their are rights for man and woman. it is the duty of man to provide food, cloth accomodation infact everything that she needs to live and she does not have to work but she can work if she likes but man has no right on her money.

so if one mis behave with woman, she can get divorced and can get marry with someone else.

about sucide bombing and other attacks involved killing of innocent people, as we hear in the news in london and glasgow air port today, Islam is Against these Attacks as i mentioned above killing one human being as though killling all humanity.

there are many Islamic critics who give refrences from koran out of context to mislead people. the most usual they use the verse of holy Koran chapter 9 verse: 5 ," whereever you find non muslim, kill them" it does says that in Koran but it out of context. if you read few verses before and after you come to know that there were a peace treaty in the time of prophet muhammad PBUH which was uniletrally broken by Musrik of Mekah, by the time God almighty reachs on the verse number 5 in the battle field god ask to kill the enemy whereever you find them but if they seek asylem, escort them to the place of security, any army genral to boost up the moral of army will say that do not afraid but to fight and in this fight of truth against falsehood, if you get killed, you will have your reward on the day of judgement.

so this verse does not apply to kill any non muslim anywhere any time but in the battle field against those who fight with muslims,
same message is there in almost all religious scriptures
evern Jesus christ asked his deciples to take sword and fight.

it is my humable request to once know the Koran and its teaching in Context,
you will not find a single principle of Islam against the humanity as whole.


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Postby miltiades » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:26 pm

QAMERSLAND wrote:
miltiades wrote:Never ate pork , never had alcohol , never had sex , I just blew my self up and killed a dozen Iraqis while they were coming out of the mosque. Now can I have a few virgins ?


not a tall but you will be inshallah in hell fire where you will get the punishment of killing innocent people. Islam does not justify any criminals

And until Admin takes action to remove you somewhere else or ban you I will continue trying to enlighten you .First lesson .You are a nutcase , a religious moron and a dangerous fascist as well. Who the fuck sends this fanatics to commit suicide and kill as many innocents as possible , Mother Theresa or the Pope , you are talking absolute crap and you need help , psychiatric help.
The killers , the savages , the murderers are not religious , they are not Muslims , they are Islamic fundamentalists who will stop at nothing in order to get to Paradise. THERE IS NO PARADISE THERE IS NO GOD.
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Postby talipozdemir » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:48 pm

kafenes wrote:Four nuns were standing in line at the gates of heaven. Peter asks the first if she has ever sinned. "Well, once I looked at a man's penis," she said. "Put some of this holy water on your eyes and you may enter heaven," Peter told her. Peter then asked the second nun if she had ever sinned. "Well, once I held a man's penis," she replied. "Put your hand in this holy water and you may enter heaven," he said. Just then the fourth nun pushed ahead of the third nun. Peter asked her, "Why did you push ahead in line?" She said, "Because I want to gargle before she sits in it!"

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kafenes.. I tolg QAMERSLAND many times to not to add this kind of religious information. But he doesnt understand. His mind may be out of work. But your is also the same.
He is doing something bad maybe. But you are doing something worse than him.
It is not nice to use your sexual organs related with religious topics in such kind of public web forums.Maybe your parents use several times these words at home in a day. But maybe we didn't. Please be more respectful to other ones' belief at least as much I am respectful to Thai beliefs. Thanks. ; ]
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Postby kafenes » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:12 am

kafenes.. I tolg QAMERSLAND many times to not to add this kind of religious information. But he doesnt understand.


Firstly what gives you the authority to tell people what to post or not??

Please be more respectful to other ones' belief at least as much I am respectful to Thai beliefs. Thanks. ; ]


I would very much respect ones beliefs if they kept it to themselves rather then trying to sell it to others.

It is not nice to use your sexual organs related with religious topics in such kind of public web forums.


I have never used my sexual organs related to anything in this forum, (but am coming very close to).
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