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Postby humanist » Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:59 am

hey how come I cannot see the pics

cheers any assistance will be appreciated
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Postby miltiades » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:46 am

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Jerry wrote:GR, according to a 1960 map I have the population then was 155 TCs. There was a cluster of TC villages surrounding a GC village, Philousa (population 220), Istinjo is one of them. I wonder if the surrounding land is still farmed. An abandoned village like this would make a really interesting restoration project, provided it could be acquired legally of course.


Jerry, the land around the village is farmed mainly wheat. A lot of olive trees as well but that's about it. As for restoration, it's too late, everything is beyond repair except the mosque which has been looked after and another house (looked not so old) and probably the shepherd living in it. There is no electricity, just water.
The perfect village for restoration would be the old Theletra which has been relocated after the earthquake.


Kafenes , sorry to correct your statement on Theletra which was relocated much much later following the 1953 earthquake . I'm not certain of the exact year but I remember my father having to fly to Cyprus to see his dying father in 1964 , I think it might have been early 70s in fact. I used to go to Theletra as a child to visit my Gran dad and my uncle and other relations. I remember when the well was at its glory with water gashing out in huge quantities but then it begun to diminish following some intervention to redirect its flow.
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Postby Jerry » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:49 am

Thanks for that Kafenes, unfortunately your pics are not showing, just a small red cross where they should be, They were OK last night but now clicking on them gets me a free porn site (don't all rush). Can a PC wizard explain this and tell us how to restore the pics please.

Where is Theletra roughly?
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Postby iceman » Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:31 am

Jerry wrote:GR, according to a 1960 map I have the population then was 155 TCs. There was a cluster of TC villages surrounding a GC village, Philousa (population 220), Istinjo is one of them. I wonder if the surrounding land is still farmed. An abandoned village like this would make a really interesting restoration project, provided it could be acquired legally of course.


Well......According to my 1882 map Philousa was a mix village surrounded by Turkish villages Tremythousa,Meladhia,Melandra,Zakharia,Istingo (yes it was spelt with a G not J) Evretou & Sarama..


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A crescent after the name represents a moslem population
A cross after name represent a Christian population
When neither cross or crescent is present the village has a mix population.

Taken from Triconometrical Survey of the island of Cyprus map 1882...
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:52 am

Hi Miltiades. Good morning to all.
Refering to Kafenes pictures of Istinjo, and the building with door and two windows, reminds me of houses in the UK. When I first arrived in the UK I could not believe that all houses looked the same.
Anyway back to the pictures, it is obvious that all these religo/edcational buildings were identical all over the island. They were almost all built of stome and identical in all aspects. The one in the picture would be the school building. Later on locals would attempt to build minarets as an addition. But often they could not afford it and left them half built with funds running dry.(often from villagers working abroad). Often the two buildings would be identical on the outside, only the insides would have different furnishings.
Keep them coming Kafenes. :lol:
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Postby Jerry » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:19 am

iceman wrote:
Jerry wrote:GR, according to a 1960 map I have the population then was 155 TCs. There was a cluster of TC villages surrounding a GC village, Philousa (population 220), Istinjo is one of them. I wonder if the surrounding land is still farmed. An abandoned village like this would make a really interesting restoration project, provided it could be acquired legally of course.


Well......According to my 1882 map Philousa was a mix village surrounded by Turkish villages Tremythousa,Meladhia,Melandra,Zakharia,Istingo (yes it was spelt with a G not J) Evretou & Sarama..


Image



A crescent after the name represents a moslem population
A cross after name represent a Christian population
When neither cross or crescent is present the village has a mix population.

Taken from Triconometrical Survey of the island of Cyprus map 1882...


An interesting map Iceman. I'll try and post mine later on, Obviously there was a movement of the TC population between 1882 and 1960 from Philousa (1960 pop. 220 GC). I wonder how many TCs left the island as a result of British occupation, I do remember reading somewhere that some left the island during the First World War.

Kafenes, your pics are back!
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Postby BirKibrisli » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:27 am

Thanks for those pictures of Istinco,kafenes.....(This is how we spelt it in Turkish)...The ruins in the centre of the second picture from the top was my grandfather's house...Exactly opposite that,now missing I think,was the teacher's house where I was born... :cry: :cry: :cry:

And the pool or the fountain as we called it was the only running water in the village....I remember many trip up that pebbled road carrying water home....It was forbidden but we used to swim in the pool in summer....
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Postby BirKibrisli » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:30 am

kafenes wrote:
'74LondonBoy wrote:Hi Kafenes,

My father-in-law is also from Istinjo - do I have your permission to save these pics onto my memory stick and take them round to show him ?

I can visualise his eyes watering when he sees these, just as they did a few years ago when his two brothers visited the village and captured some stuff on a camcorder for him to view - he watches this video more than any other TV show !


So there is a good chance he's related to Birkiprisli.

If you email me [email protected] I will send you these and more in full size (these were reduced quality for posting).


London boy....Ask your father in law if he knows the name Mahmud Celalleddin,my grandfather...I will be surprised if he doesn't...
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Postby 74LB » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:15 pm

Birkibrisli wrote:
kafenes wrote:
'74LondonBoy wrote:Hi Kafenes,

My father-in-law is also from Istinjo - do I have your permission to save these pics onto my memory stick and take them round to show him ?

I can visualise his eyes watering when he sees these, just as they did a few years ago when his two brothers visited the village and captured some stuff on a camcorder for him to view - he watches this video more than any other TV show !


So there is a good chance he's related to Birkiprisli.

If you email me [email protected] I will send you these and more in full size (these were reduced quality for posting).


London boy....Ask your father in law if he knows the name Mahmud Celalleddin,my grandfather...I will be surprised if he doesn't...


Birkibrisli, I will ask and let you know.

Kafenes, I have received the pictures. Thank you.
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Postby kafenes » Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:58 pm

miltiades wrote:
kafenes wrote:
Jerry wrote:GR, according to a 1960 map I have the population then was 155 TCs. There was a cluster of TC villages surrounding a GC village, Philousa (population 220), Istinjo is one of them. I wonder if the surrounding land is still farmed. An abandoned village like this would make a really interesting restoration project, provided it could be acquired legally of course.


Jerry, the land around the village is farmed mainly wheat. A lot of olive trees as well but that's about it. As for restoration, it's too late, everything is beyond repair except the mosque which has been looked after and another house (looked not so old) and probably the shepherd living in it. There is no electricity, just water.
The perfect village for restoration would be the old Theletra which has been relocated after the earthquake.


Kafenes , sorry to correct your statement on Theletra which was relocated much much later following the 1953 earthquake . I'm not certain of the exact year but I remember my father having to fly to Cyprus to see his dying father in 1964 , I think it might have been early 70s in fact. I used to go to Theletra as a child to visit my Gran dad and my uncle and other relations. I remember when the well was at its glory with water gashing out in huge quantities but then it begun to diminish following some intervention to redirect its flow.


Thanks for the correction Miltiades. I remember being told that it was relocated because of the earthquake, but now obviously must have meant,
because it was too dangerous in case of an earthquake. And by seeing the cliff right behind it I would understand why. They have maintained the church, even though it's empty.
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