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[BirKibrisli]

i dont know how often i need to say that. the tc teachers are the only, real group in cyprus that honestly care about reunification.


KTÖS demanded yesterday from soyer :
1. the removal of ertsakica (?)
2. to remove the fence from famagusta, and return it to its legal owners
3. immidiate implementation of the 8th of luly agreement
4. the demilitarisation of the whole island
5. the opening of all check points
6. the control of the central bank, police and fire brigade to be transfered to tc minister of internal affairs

the general secretary of the union, sener eltsil, said to soyer "if you are not an employee from ankara, implement the above proposals"


volkan (surprise surprise ) claimed that seners opinions are like tpaps.....



wish we had such teachers.....

but i doubt if the tc here would like them.... most probably this only happens when KTÖS sues the RoC.....

Cypez...the name is Hasan Erchakica....he is Talat's spokesperson in case people are wondering...KTOS wants him removed because of his daily statements which are allegedly promoting hatred between the two commu nities....Spare a thought for poor Soyer....He will now have to decide which of the two things he has to prove: a) His "Turkishness" as demanded by the Turkish general or;b) that he is not Turkey's civil servant,as demanded by KTOS????I wonder how he sleeps at night?

[Pyrpolizer]

Humanist, lets have a vote of all forum members who "Agree that Cyprus belongs to All Cypriots" Period. Then cascade with more polls till we sort out the chaff.
Regards
DA

Cyprus is for all Cypriots... those who have betrayed Cyprus and for more than 30 years are supporting the occupation are not Cypriots they are traitors

You know damn well the vast majority of TCs are victims of circumstances not traitors. Speaking of traitors there's an equal minority of GC traitors who caused the division of our country.

No TC provoked you, so why using such sweeping statements?

[humanist]

cyp, I was responding to a coment made by you. I do not need to repeat it, go back and read. I don't believe that Turkish speaking Cypriots have a say what happens in Cyprus, and therefore have no control on the outcome. Turksy is not likely to act on the recomendaions of a bunch of teachers. That is my belief. If you disagree that is fine ...... I think what I said was relevant.

[denizaksulu]

Good Morning to ALL;
StrahD you can not read. I suggested take the vote on one point at a time . Period. Other options to come later, perhaps. Reading your answer it seems you are turning in to another Piratis.

[zan]

cypez, Turkey has no intention of letting go of Cyprus, ther is no unification plan and will hold Cyprus hostage till she gets what she wants including EU membership.

either that, or she'll be stupid enough to attack at the moment of oil production in which case the EU along with the States will launch full scale war thereby Turkey loosing and Cyprus is freed again


In the meantime a lot of innocent lives will be lost when Turkey could be celebrated by all if she began the process of unification byt taking down the fence at Varosha, returning the town to its rightful owners, restoring human rights and working with the RoC to develop measures to ensure equality for all minority groups and a process of safety for all.

We are not just any old minority as you suggest Humanist. We are fully fledged Cypriots and not just visitoprs in "YOUR" country. We have special need s due to recent events. That is the only thing that seperates us in Cyprus. We were part of the first Cyprus Republic but we are not part of the "ROC" as it stands so please stop this notion you have that we are tresspassing on a Greek country.

[Get Real!]

We are not just any old minority as you suggest Humanist. We are fully fledged Cypriots and not just visitoprs in "YOUR" country. We have special need s due to recent events. That is the only thing that seperates us in Cyprus. We were part of the first Cyprus Republic but we are not part of the "ROC" as it stands so please stop this notion you have that we are tresspassing on a Greek country.

You WERE part of the RoC until some fools in your community such as Denktash saw fit to follow Turkey's stupid advice and rebel over the 13 points instead of negotiating them!

Today, if you want to return times have changed and you'll have democracy to confront.

[zan]

We are not just any old minority as you suggest Humanist. We are fully fledged Cypriots and not just visitoprs in "YOUR" country. We have special need s due to recent events. That is the only thing that seperates us in Cyprus. We were part of the first Cyprus Republic but we are not part of the "ROC" as it stands so please stop this notion you have that we are tresspassing on a Greek country.

You WERE part of the RoC until some fools in your community such as Denktash saw fit to follow Turkey's stupid advice and rebel over the 13 points instead of negotiating them!

Today, if you want to return times have changed and you'll have democracy to confront.

And now we return to the ENOSIS period and the Akritas plan. I think that Turkey would have been considered to have made the right decision if you had included in your post the real and whole facts of the situation. A two hundred year, or there abouts, aim of GCs to get ENOSIS for the island and an attempt at trying to prevent this with the Zurich agreement and you wanted us to sign away the very points that prevented a man (Makarios) from getting his well publicised want for ENOSIS. What you are really saying is that you wanted us to negotiate ourselves into a situation that would make ENOSIS possible when even Greece agreed the Zurich agreement. Part of the truth is not enough for a full understanding of the Cyprob GR and well you know it.

[denizaksulu]

[quote="Get Real!"][quote="zan"]We are not just any old minority as you suggest Humanist. We are fully fledged Cypriots and not just visitoprs in "YOUR" country. We have special need s due to recent events. That is the only thing that seperates us in Cyprus. We were part of the first Cyprus Republic but we are not part of the "ROC" as it stands so please stop this notion you have that we are tresspassing on a Greek country.[/quote]

You WERE part of the RoC until some fools in your community such as Denktash saw fit to follow Turkey's stupid advice and rebel over the 13 points instead of negotiating them!

Today, if you want to return times have changed and you'll have democracy to confront.[/quote]

Get Real: The option of negotiating these 13 points was not offered. It was presented as a "take it or leave it".

Regards
DA

[Get Real!]

Get Real: The option of negotiating these 13 points was not offered. It was presented as a "take it or leave it".
RegardsDA

Makarios made a PROPOSITION Deniz!!!

It was a plan suggested for acceptance otherwise known as a PROPOSAL!

Since when are proposals non-negotiable???

Here, read it for yourself and see how "terrible" it was for your community!

http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/13_points.htm

[zan]

Get Real: The option of negotiating these 13 points was not offered. It was presented as a "take it or leave it".
RegardsDA

Makarios made a PROPOSITION Deniz!!!

It was a plan suggested for acceptance otherwise known as a PROPOSAL!

Since when are proposals non-negotiable???

Here, read it for yourself and see how "terrible" it was for your community!

http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/13_points.htm

10. The proportion of the participation of Greek and Turkish Cypriots in the composition of the Public Service and the Forces of the Republic to be modified in proportion to the ratio of the population of Greek and Turkish Cypriots


I think that this is not as inoccent as you want to make it out to be GR. That and the fact that Makarios ignored two vetos at least says it all......