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Evolution Vs Creation - The very beginning...

Postby Get Real! » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:56 am

Evolution Vs Creation - The very beginning...

You can’t have something out of nothing such as a Big Bang because it defeats the notion that there was nothing to begin with.

This is probably the only mystery of the cosmos because everything else can be scientifically explained; in other words… what actually began the very beginning when there was nothing?

Solve this riddle and you’ve solved everything else.

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Postby Bananiot » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:00 am

Who said there was nothing before the big bang?
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:04 am

Bananiot wrote:Who said there was nothing before the big bang?

Then it cannot be classified as the "very beginning" so we would need to go even further back until there is nothing and ask the same question again...
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Postby iceman » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:25 am

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Postby Piratis » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:32 am

We don't know and maybe we will never know.

However if we have to say something then we should at least make somewhat educated scientific guesses. If the current level of science is not able to even give an educated guess then better to say nothing, rather than saying something totally foolish based on nothing more than wishful thinking.

Go back several 1000s years ago and imagine how the people back then would react to a solar eclipse. Why that happened was a question that the level of science back then could not answer. I believe that the smarter of our ancestors would simply say something like: "It must be a natural phenomenon like all the rest, we are just not advanced enough to explain it", but I am guessing most of them would just declare it as an act of "God" and even a proof for his existence.
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:09 am

Why do you consider the question important Get real? Would a question like "who created the creator" make any sense?
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:23 am

Bananiot wrote:Why do you consider the question important Get real?

Because it is seemingly the only evidence that may prove the existence of a God.

Would a question like "who created the creator" make any sense?

It makes perfect sense actually but it can only be answered in the celestial world for which we know nothing about, whereas my question belongs to the terrestrial world where we belong.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:35 am

Bananiot; The infinity symbol should represent the forums debate about Cyprus. Round and round in a funny sort of way...infinitessimally. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Piratis » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:22 pm

Because it is seemingly the only evidence that may prove the existence of a God.


How can the inability of humans to answer a question about some phenomenon be a proof for the existence of God?

It is like the example I gave above. Because humans could not explain how a solar eclipse happened they used that as evidence for the existence of God.

That sort of reasoning is obviously fallacious.

Human beings will never be able to know everything about the universe. You can either accept this reality, or choose to fill the gabs in our knowledge with "God" in order to feel better.
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Postby humanist » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:48 pm

if there was nothing before the Big bang how do we know there was a Big Bang!
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