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[Get Real!]

Get Real, if you have actually read the Qu'ran and Hadiths etc, you would know that what a lot of these extremists do IS justified in Islam. For example, Apostacy requiring beheading, beating your wives etc - it is all there. Their leader/prophet carried out the most appalling acts himself, and he is supposed to be an example to well over 1 billion people. The same cannot be said of Jesus. Please open a thread, I would love to know how you will conjure up claims that Jesus killed and raped women and children?

You mention George Bush etc, but I haven't heard him say he does what he does in the name of Jesus, or Christianity; in the same way that these extremist Muslims claim they are martyrs for Islam and Allah. There is a key difference. Their objective is quite clear: Islam to rule the world. Bush is the President of a secular state.

Niki, I have seen the website, and that particular person who wrote the article is very well educated and spot on. GR he is offering $50,000, try to prove him wrong.

If you were to look into the old testament you’ll find God ordering Abraham and others to do all sorts of things that today would be considered barbaric or repulsive such as slaying his own child to prove a point and the encouragement of inbreeding just to give you a couple of examples.

At the very least all these books (Bible, Quran, etc) have a rich historical value so we have at least one good reason to respect them.

As for that idiot who is offering 50k for nonsense I'll give him 100k if he can prove that his mother is not a whore! How's that for a challenge?

[humanist]

Niki, personally I beielve that Mohammed is agreat man sent to deliver a message just like Jesus , Buddha and Rumi and many others whose teachings are about love and respect. As a Christian with a close relationship to Jesus I find the coments about Mohammed to be of poor taste and incesnitivity. Can we please respect other people's religious figures tho they may be different to ours and accept that they have come with the smae message to bring us joy happiness and love.

Thank you.

[Simon]

GR, I knew that would be your exact response. The only problem with it is that it does not answer my post at all. You mentioned Jesus originally, I asked you can you accuse Jesus of the same barbaric acts that Muhammad undertook? You have not. Jesus is the founder of Christianity, Muhammad, Islam. Instead you bring up the Old Testament, which is largely irrelevant to the discussion. The Old Testament has been replaced and superceded for Christians by the New Testament, therefore, Christianity does not follow the 'old way.' The problem is, many Muslims do.

P.S. If there is an account of your mother's life, with various historical sources of her past, then I am sure he could give it a good shot. (Assuming of course that she was not a whore).

[jambo]

Nice can of worms..
But I say, stand up for what you believe in..
you have the right to freedom of speech..

[Get Real!]

GR, I knew that would be your exact response. The only problem with it is that it does not answer my post at all. You mentioned Jesus originally, I asked you can you accuse Jesus of the same barbaric acts that Muhammad undertook? You have not. Jesus is the founder of Christianity, Muhammad, Islam. Instead you bring up the Old Testament, which is largely irrelevant to the discussion. The Old Testament has been replaced and superceded for Christians by the New Testament, therefore, Christianity does not follow the 'old way.' The problem is, many Muslims do.

P.S. If there is an account of your mother's life, with various historical sources of her past, then I am sure he could give it a good shot. (Assuming of course that she was not a whore).

Is that your website by any chance? You've started to take it VERY personal I've noticed...

[Niki]

Niki, personally I beielve that Mohammed is agreat man sent to deliver a message just like Jesus , Buddha and Rumi and many others whose teachings are about love and respect. As a Christian with a close relationship to Jesus I find the coments about Mohammed to be of poor taste and incesnitivity. Can we please respect other people's religious figures tho they may be different to ours and accept that they have come with the smae message to bring us joy happiness and love.

Thank you.

Humanist of course I agree with you. Different religions should accept each other and it would be nice to think the joy happiness and love aspects were the most valued traits but this just isn't the case. As has been said it is the minority who enforce and terrorise. 99% of people are decent no matter what religion they are.

I get upset when all the things I grew up with and that are close to my heart like Christmas with all it's traditions, respect for women by men, being able to say what you think is being quashed in the name of more aggressive religions. These things are and have systematically being taken away from us. The UK is not what it was when I was younger, the traditional values have all gone!

I have aplogised for offending by posting the thoughts made by another man, I stand by this apology, the sentiments were too strongly expressed. You get so used to having your own beliefs walked over and simply having to accept this destruction as you have no say it is easy to underestimate the high emotions this causes.

[Get Real!]

Niki, personally I beielve that Mohammed is agreat man sent to deliver a message just like Jesus , Buddha and Rumi and many others whose teachings are about love and respect. As a Christian with a close relationship to Jesus I find the coments about Mohammed to be of poor taste and incesnitivity. Can we please respect other people's religious figures tho they may be different to ours and accept that they have come with the smae message to bring us joy happiness and love.

Thank you.

Humanist of course I agree with you. Different religions should accept each other and it would be nice to think the joy happiness and love aspects were the most valued traits but this just isn't the case. As has been said it is the minority who enforce and terrorise. 99% of people are decent no matter what religion they are.

I get upset when all the things I grew up with and that are close to my heart like Christmas with all it's traditions, respect for women by men, being able to say what you think is being quashed in the name of more aggressive religions. These things are and have systematically being taken away from us. The UK is not what it was when I was younger, the traditional values have all gone!

I have aplogised for offending by posting the thoughts made by another man, I stand by this apology, the sentiments were too strongly expressed. You get so used to having your own beliefs walked over and simply having to accept this destruction as you have no say it is easy to underestimate the high emotions this causes.

Has it ever occured to you that there are elements who will try to "deprive" you from things you cherish, such as Xmas, to strengthen their cause? I can see a disguised yet systematic campaign to increase tensions between Islam and Christianity but it's up to us to fall for it.

The now tired "it offends muslims" is one such tactic on the increase disguised as anti-racist and yet it causes exactly the opposite effect which is what they really want!

[Simon]

GR, I am not taking anything personal. Just seeking to engage the discussion; and no it is certainly not my website.

[Get Real!]

GR, I am not taking anything personal. Just seeking to engage the discussion; and no it is certainly not my website.

Then why did you use "your" instead of "his"?

P.S. If there is an account of your mother's life, with various historical sources of her past, then I am sure he could give it a good shot. (Assuming of course that she was not a whore).

[Southerner]

[quote="Get
If you were to look into the old testament you’ll find God ordering Abraham and others to do all sorts of things that today would be considered barbaric or repulsive such as slaying his own child to prove a point and the encouragement of inbreeding just to give you a couple of examples.
At the very least all these books (Bible, Quran, etc) have a rich historical value so we have at least one good reason to respect them.
As for that idiot who is offering 50k for nonsense I'll give him 100k if he can prove that his mother is not a whore! How's that for a challenge?[/quote]


Abraham was one step up from a Neanderthal thousands of years ago, and yet he could write? I also believe that the moon's made of green chesse.