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[miltiades]

My dear Epsilon , you have the wrong end of the stick I'm afraid .
I do not hate the Greeks at all , what gave you that idea ? I simply criticize the government of the day way back in 1974 , albeit a dictatorship , but nevertheless the government of that day. I blame these monsters 100% for the events that developed following the military coup against the government of Cyprus. I criticize certain aspects of the Greek way of life , I deplore the un sophisticated pretentious rich , that I consider the a not very nice specimen of Greeks , I resent their incessant appetite for cigarettes , I love the Greek music having been a musician myself and playing the bouzouki professionally for a number of years , many many years ago I ought to say.
I have two children that both have very Greek names , I have a grand daughter with an also Greek name , all these does not prohibit me from objectively criticizing Greece .
I have said before that I feel closer to Cypriots than I do to Greeks (mainland ).I feel that the G/Cs are just that , Greek Cypriots Not Greeks the same as the Turkish Cypriots that are Cypriots and not Turks (mainland Turks)

There are many aspects of the Greek life that I find uncomfortable not least the show off mentality , the uncaring and selfish attitudes that many rich exhibit towards the less fortunate ones, but overall I can take them or leave them . I'm a proud Cypriot , I speak fluent Greek but also fluent English as well the Cyprus dialect , but as you know language alone is not the determining factor in labeling one a Greek or a Cypriot but more whats in the heart , and my heart belongs to Cyprus.
I will buy you a glass of Champagne the next time I'm in Athens , once again I do sincerely hope that I have not offended your feelings .

Wouldn't you say that the things you hate about the Greeks are present in the same (or even higher-see smoking) percentages in Greek Cypriots?

But of course they are Alex , the Cypriots might even conceivably be more addicted to this cancer habit than the Greeks. A lot of bad habits emanate from the Greek cinema , TV shows etc , where glamour and smoking are intertwined making smoking a cool thing.

There are many objectionable habits in Greece just as they are in other countries , we are on the Cyprus forum and occasionally we criticize other nations behavioural practises. I must make it clear that no nation is mature unless it can absorb criticism, we are grateful that the Greeks do not have article 301 to curtail their criticisms, any more than we have in Cyprus , so I will carry on praising , analysing and where required criticize . This is democracy , invented by the Greeks and practised by a G/C !!

[talipozdemir]

There is no God !!!

Thanks for being polite. I think I'm respectful to your idea.
But you must do some serious researches on it at first I think.For example, did you make any researches on teh 4 greatest religion of the world ?
If you say this kind of things without researching, people will not care you.
If you had some, please tell your sources,writers & pages of the books and I will think on your saying more serious.

Thanks Cypriot brother.
Regards,

talipozdemir

My dear friend , I respect your choice to believe in the all mighty , a belief that no doubt was installed in you by your parents just as they were made religious by the parents and so forth. I'm 61 years of age and I did not wake up in morning and decided that there is no God. I have studied the bible at length and spend a little time learning about Islam.
I have my logic which has been sharpened over many years in the university of life. I tell you there is no God , there is not the minutest proof that there is a creator . Religion , to cone a phrase , is the opium of the people, religion and religious absurdities are rampant in the third world and mostly in the most illiterate of nations. Show me a religious nation and I will show you a nation at war , a nation that sanctity of life is abhorrent , a nation that its own religious people form gangs masquerading as Holy and only to ready to commit the ultimate crime in taking life.
I do not believe , I do not wish to believe and I will defend your right to beleive in your God with my life if need be. Now , you do the same for me , defend my right not to believe .

At first, thanks for being polite to me.As you say, you are a 61 years old very experienced man from UK. And I'm a 20 years old a young man from 2k... ( I will continue under an other headline because the things I wanna say are out of this topic.)

Thanks Greek uncle. : )
Regards;
talipozdemir

[denizaksulu]

Merhaba Talip Ozdemir: Welcome to this forum. As guests on this forum we can guarantee you a very warm welcome, which in turn might even get "Hot". Good luck.
Selam
DA

[talipozdemir]

Merhaba Talip Ozdemir: Welcome to this forum. As guests on this forum we can guarantee you a very warm welcome, which in turn might even get "Hot". Good luck.
Selam
DA

Aleikum Salam..Thanks. I just want to be a part of this forum

[QAMERSLAND]

Dear Brothers and Sisters,
Once again I welcome all of you with Islamic Greeting,

Aslaamu Alykum( May God Almighty be peace on you) ,

Greet you in the same manner as Jesus (pbuh) greeted in Hebrew Luke 24:36

AND AS THEY THUS SPAKE JESUS HIMSELF STOOD IN THE MIDST OF THEM
AND SAITH UNTO THEM PEACE BE UNTO YOU.( Sholam alay kum)’


I am not surprised to see your reaction about Islam, Actually, your reaction is because of knowledge that you get from indirect source like all kind of Media and online

It seems that I am the only Muslim in this Forum, I thank God who gave me opportunity to talk to you in this forum to convey the Message of Almighty God, i welcome the allegation that you have put on me and Islam, i will just say learn Islam not the Muslims because all muslims are not following true Islam

Some of you may not believe in God, to them I congratulate that they have rejected the false God, Inshallah, if you will learn about the Concept of God in Islam, you will believe in it.

Those who are Christians, I will request them to go back to your scripture and read what Jesus (Peace be Upon him) says in the context with undertanding,

I would like to request all my Non Muslims Brothers and Sisters that they should learn a little bit of Islamic believe then By God willing you will be able to differentiate and answer your questions that you have opposed on me.

Let’s first look at what the Holy scriptures say about Similarities between Islam and Christianity and we discuss the differences later because this is right way to achieve universal brotherhood.

Similarities / Similar Teachings in the Qur’an and the Bible which Muslims follow but Christians don't

I ISLAM

1. DEFINITION

A. Meaning of Islam

(i) Islam is derived from the word salaam meaning peace.

(ii) Submission to the Will of Allah (swt) i.e. God Almighty.

B. Meaning of ‘Muslim’ – One who submits his will to Allah.

C. Islam is not a new religion found by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

2. MESSENGERS IN ISLAM
A. (i) To every nation was sent a Guide or a Messenger
Al-Qur'an 35:24
Al-Qur'an 13:7
(ii) 25 Prophets mentioned by name in the Qur'an

(iii) Islam is the only non-Christian faith that believes in Jesus (pbuh)
(iv) Stories only of some prophets mentioned in Qur'an
Al-Qur'an 4:164
Al-Qur'an 40:78
(v) More than 1,24,000 Messengers according to Hadith

B. (i) Previous Messengers were only sent for their people and nation and their complete message was meant only for a particular time period.

(ii) Moses (pbuh) was only sent for the Jews.
(iii) Jesus (pbuh) sent only for the Jews i.e. lost sheep of Israel.
Al-Qur'an 3:49
Mathew 10:5-6 10-5- THESE TWELVE JESUS SENT FORTH AND COMMANDED THEM SAYING GO NOT INTO THE WAY OF THE GENTILES AND INTO ANY CITY OF THE SAMARITANS ENTER YE NOT-
/10-6- BUT GO RATHER TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL.

Mathew 15:24 But he answered and said I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of The House of Israel
(iv) Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is the Last and Final Messenger for the
Whole of Mankind.
Al-Qur'an 33:40
Al-Qur'an 21:107
Al-Qur'an 34:28
Sahih Bukhari Vol.1 Book of Salaah Chapter 56 Hadith No. 429


(v) Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) prophesized in the Bible.
Al-Qur'an 7:157
Al-Qur'an 61:6
Deuteronomy 18:18 I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee; and I will put My words in his mouth, and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Isaiah 29:12 and the writing is delivered to him that is not learned, saying: 'Read this, I pray thee'; and he saith: 'I am not learned.' {S}
Song of Solomon 5:16 His mouth is most sweet; yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.'

(John 16:7: NEVERTHELESS I TELL YOU THE TRUTH IT IS EXPEDIENT FOR YOU THAT I GO AWAY- FOR IF I GO NOT AWAY
THE COMFORTER WILL NOT COME UNTO YOU BUT IF I DEPART
I WILL SEND HIM UNTO YOU.)
(John 16:12-14: I HAVE YET MANY THINGS TO SAY UNTO YOU BUT YE CANNOT BEAR THEM NOW.
16-13- HOWBEIT WHEN HE
THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH IS COME
HE WILL GUIDE YOU INTO ALL TRUTH- FOR HE SHALL NOT SPEAK OF HIMSELF BUT WHATSOEVER HE SHALL HEAR THAT SHALL HE SPEAK- AND HE WILL SHEW YOU THINGS TO COME.
16-14- HE SHALL GLORIFY ME- FOR HE SHALL RECEIVE OF MINE
AND SHALL SHEW IT UNTO YOU.

3. REVELATIONS OF GOD
A. Several Revelations sent by Allah – Al-Qur'an 13:38.
By name only four are mentioned in the Qur’an.
B. (i) The Qur’an is the Last and Final Revelation.

(ii) All previous Revelations before Qur'an were only sent for a particular group of people and for a particular time period
(iii) The Qur’an was Revealed for the Whole of Mankind
Al-Qur'an 14:1
Al-Qur'an 14:52
Al-Qur'an 2:185
Al-Qur'an 39:41
II PILLARS OF ISLAM:

1. Tauheed: Monotheism
A. La ilaha ilallahu, Muhammad-ur-Rasoolullah
Sahih Bukhari Vol. 1 Hadith No. 7
B. Believe in Allah and the Last Day, and the Angels and the Book and the Messengers.
Al-Qur'an 2:177
C. Come to common terms — Worship of one God
Al-Qur'an 3:64
D. Concept of God
Al-Qur'an 112:1-4
Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is one.
Mark 12:29 AND JESUS ANSWERED HIM THE FIRST OF ALL THE COMMANDMENTS IS HEAR O ISRAEL THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD-

E. Shirk – Biggest Sin
Al-Qur'an 4:48
Al-Qur'an 4:116
Exodus 20:2-5
2 I am the LORD thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.
3 Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image, nor any manner of likeness, of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth;
4 thou shalt not bow down unto them, nor serve them; for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate Me;
5 and showing mercy unto the thousandth generation of them that love Me and keep My commandments. {S}
Deuteronomy 5:7-9
7 Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image, even any manner of likeness, of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
8 Thou shalt not bow down unto them, nor serve them; for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the third and upon the fourth generation of them that hate Me
9 and showing mercy unto the thousandth generation of them that love Me and keep My commandments. {S}
F. Jesus (pbuh) not God. He never claimed Divinity
Al-Qur'an 5:72
John 14:28YE HAVE HEARD HOW I SAID UNTO YOU
I GO AWAY AND COME AGAIN UNTO YOU. IF YE LOVED ME
YE WOULD REJOICE BECAUSE I SAID I GO UNTO THE FATHER- FOR MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I.

John 10:29 MY FATHER WHICH GAVE THEM ME IS GREATER THAN ALL AND NO MAN IS ABLE TO PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY FATHER'S HAND.

Mathew 12:28 BUT IF I CAST OUT DEVILS BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD
THEN THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS COME UNTO YOU.

Luke 11:20 BUT IF I WITH THE FINGER OF GOD CAST OUT DEVILS
NO DOUBT THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS COME UPON YOU.

John 5:30 I CAN OF MINE OWN SELF DO NOTHING- AS I HEAR
I JUDGE- AND MY JUDGMENT IS JUST BECAUSE I SEEK NOT MINE OWN WILL
BUT THE WILL OF THE FATHER WHICH HATH SENT ME.

Acts 2:21 YE MEN OF ISRAEL HEAR THESE WORDS JESUS OF NAZARETH A MAN APPROVED OF GOD AMONG YOU BY MIRACLES AND WONDERS AND SIGNS WHICH GOD DID BY HIM IN THE MIDST OF YOU AS YE YOURSELVES ALSO KNOW-

G. 99 Attributes of Almighty God
Al-Qur'an 17:110
H. Prefer using name ‘Allah’ rather than the word ‘God’ as the word ‘God’ can be played around with. Allah in the Bible – Eli, Eli, Lama Sabachthani
Mark 15:34 AND AT THE NINTH HOUR JESUS CRIED WITH A LOUD VOICE
SAYING ELOI ELOI LAMA SABACHTHANI?
WHICH IS BEING INTERPRETED MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME?

Mathew 27:46 AND ABOUT THE NINTH HOUR JESUS CRIED WITH A LOUD VOICE
SAYING ELI ELI LAMA SABACHTHANI? THAT IS TO SAY MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME?

2. Salaah

A. Not merely Prayers but Programming
Al-Qur'an 5:90
Al-Qur'an 2:188
B. Prayers restrain you from shameful and unjust deeds
Al-Qur'an 29:45
C. Salaah timings – for healthy soul five times a day
Al-Qur'an 17:78
Al-Qur'an 20:130
D. Take off shoes before entering mosque.
(i) Commandment of Allah to Moses
Al-Qur'an 20:11-12
Exodus 3:5 And He said: 'Draw not nigh hither; put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground.'
Acts 7:33 THEN SAID THE LORD TO HIM PUT OFF THY SHOES FROM THY FEET- FOR THE PLACE WHERE THOU STANDEST IS HOLY GROUND.

(ii) Can Pray with Shoes.
Sunan Abu Dawood – Vol. 1, Book of Salaah, Chapter 240,
Hadith No. 652-653.
(iii) Hygienic

E. Ablution
(i) Al-Qur'an 5:6
Exodus 40:31-32
31 that Moses and Aaron and his sons might wash their hands and their feet thereat;
32 when they went into the tent of meeting, and when they came near unto the altar, they should wash; as the LORD commanded Moses. {S}
Acts 21:26 THEN PAUL TOOK THE MEN AND THE NEXT DAY PURIFYING HIMSELF WITH THEM ENTERED INTO THE TEMPLE TO SIGNIFY THE ACCOMPLISHMENT OF THE DAYS OF PURIFICATION UNTIL THAT AN OFFERING SHOULD BE OFFERED FOR EVERY ONE OF THEM.

(ii) Hygienic

(iii) Mental Preparation
F. Stand shoulder to shoulder, while praying –
Sahih Bukhari – Vol. 1, Book of Adhan Chapter 75 Hadith no. 692
Abu Dawood – Vol. 1, Book of Salaah Chapter 245 Hadith No. 666.

G. Sujud – Prostration

(i) To humble your mind, humble your body
(ii) Sujud mentioned 92 times in the Qur’an
Al-Qur'an 3:43
Al-Qur'an 22:77
(ii) Prostration in the Bible
Genesis 17:3; 3 And Abram fell on his face; and God talked with him, saying:
Numbers 20:6 And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tent of meeting, and fell upon their faces; and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them. {P}

Joshua 5:14; And he said: 'Nay, but I am captain of the host of the LORD; I am now come.' And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and bowed down, and said unto him: 'What saith my lord unto his servant?'
Mathew 26:39 AND HE WENT A LITTLE FURTHER AND FELL ON HIS FACE AND PRAYED SAYING O MY FATHER IF IT BE POSSIBLE LET THIS CUP PASS FROM ME- NEVERTHELESS NOT AS I WILL BUT AS THOU WILT.

3. Zakaah

A. Meaning: Purification and Growth
B. Description: 2.5% of saving every lunar year in charity
Al-Qur'an 9:60
C. If every human being gives Zakaah, not a single person will die of hunger.
D. "Wealth does not circulate only amongst the wealthy and the rich"
Al-Qur'an 59:7
E. I Peter 4:8 AND ABOVE ALL THINGS HAVE FERVENT CHARITY AMONG YOURSELVES- FOR CHARITY SHALL COVER THE MULTITUDE OF SINS.


4. SAUM - FASTING

A. Description – one lunar month i.e. during the month of Ramadaan every lunar year, Muslims fast, i.e. abstain from food and drinks from sunrise till sunset.
B. Benefits: learn self-restraint. If you can control your hunger you can control almost all your desires. It enhances spiritual awareness.
Al-Qur'an 2:183
C. Medical Benefits:

(a) Increases absorption capacity of intestines

(b) Lowers cholesterol.

D. Discourages smoking, alcoholism and other addictions.

E. Bible prescribes Fasting
Mathew 17:21 HOWBEIT THIS KIND GOETH NOT OUT BUT BY PRAYER AND FASTING.
Mark 9:29 AND HE SAID UNTO THEM THIS KIND CAN COME FORTH BY NOTHING
BUT BY PRAYER AND FASTING.

5. HAJJ

A. Description – Pilgrimage atleast once in life time if you can afford it
B. Universal Brotherhood – 2.5 million people from all over the world gather, wear two pieces of unsewn cloth, preferably white. Cannot differentiate between rich and poor.
Al-Qur'an 49:13
C. Significance of Kaaba – Muslims don’t worship it
Psalms 84:4-7
4 Yea, the sparrow hath found a house, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may lay her young; {N} Thine altars, O LORD of hosts, my King, and my God--.
5 Happy are they that dwell in Thy house, they are ever praising Thee. Selah
6 Happy is the man whose strength is in Thee; in whose heart are the highways.
7 Passing through the valley of Baca they make it a place of springs; {N}
yea, the early rain clotheth it with blessings.

III ISLAM IS A COMPLETE WAY OF LIFE
These five pillars do not constitute complete Islam. Only if the pillars are strong, will the structure be strong.
1. HUMANS CREATED TO WORSHIP ALLAH
A. Jinn and Man created for worship of Allah
Al-Qur'an 51:56
B. Meaning of Ibadaah – root word Abd meaning ‘slave’.

2. OBEYING COMMANDMENTS OF ALLAH IS SUBMITTING YOUR WILL TO ALLAH
A. Abstaining from alcohol
Al-Qur'an 5:90
Proverbs 20:1
1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink is riotous; and whosoever reeleth thereby is not wise.
Ephesians 5:18 AND BE NOT DRUNK WITH WINE WHEREIN IS EXCESS BUT BE FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT

B. Abstaining from prohibited food
Al-Qur'an 5:5
Al-Qur'an 2:173, 5:3, 6:145, 16:115
(i) Dead meat
Leviticus 17:15 And every soul that eateth that which dieth of itself, or that which is torn of beasts, whether he be home-born or a stranger, he shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even; then shall he be clean.

Deuteronomy 14:21 Ye shall not eat of any thing that dieth of itself; thou mayest give it unto the stranger that is within thy gates, that he may eat it; or thou mayest sell it unto a foreigner; for thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk. {P}
(ii) Blood
Genesis 9:4, only flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
Leviticus 17:14, For as to the life of all flesh, the blood thereof is all one with the life thereof; therefore I said unto the children of Israel: Ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh; for the life of all flesh is the blood thereof; whosoever eateth it shall be cut off.
Deuteronomy 12:16, 16 Only ye shall not eat the blood; thou shalt pour it out upon the earth as water.
I Samuel 14:33 Then they told Saul, saying: 'Behold, the people sin against the LORD, in that they eat with the blood.' And he said: 'Ye have dealt treacherously; roll a great stone unto me this day.'
Acts 15:29 HAT YE ABSTAIN FROM MEATS OFFERED TO IDOLS AND FROM BLOOD
AND FROM THINGS STRANGLED AND FROM FORNICATION- FROM WHICH IF YE KEEP YOURSELVES YE SHALL DO WELL. FARE YE WELL.

(iii) Pork is prohibited
Leviticus 11:7-8
7And the swine, because he parteth the hoof, and is cloven-footed, but cheweth not the cud, he is unclean unto you.
8 Of their flesh ye shall not eat, and their carcasses ye shall not touch; they are unclean unto you.

Deuteronomy 14:8 and the swine, because he parteth the hoof but cheweth not the cud, he is unclean unto you; of their flesh ye shall not eat, and their carcasses ye shall not touch. {S}

Isaiah 65:2 I have spread out My hands all the day unto a rebellious people, that walk in a way that is not good, after their own thoughts;
3 A people that provoke Me to My face continually, that sacrifice in gardens, and burn incense upon bricks;
4 That sit among the graves, and lodge in the vaults; that eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels
5 That say: 'Stand by thyself, come not near to me, for I am holier than thou'; these are a smoke in My nose, a fire that burneth all the day.

(iv) Food on which names beside Allah have been invoked
Acts 15:29;
15-29- THAT YE ABSTAIN FROM MEATS OFFERED TO IDOLS
AND FROM BLOOD AND FROM THINGS STRANGLED AND FROM FORNICATION- FROM WHICH IF YE KEEP YOURSELVES YE SHALL DO WELL. FARE YE WELL.

Revelation 2:14
2-14- BUT I HAVE A FEW THINGS AGAINST THEE BECAUSE THOU HAST THERE THEM THAT HOLD THE DOCTRINE OF BALAAM WHO TAUGHT BALAC TO CAST A STUMBLINGBLOCK BEFORE THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL TO EAT THINGS SACRIFICED UNTO IDOLS AND TO COMMIT FORNICATION.


C. (i) Being Honest in your Business

(ii) Helping Neighbours
Al-Qur'an 107:1-7
(iii) Abstaining from Backbiting
Al-Qur'an 104:1-3
Al-Qur'an 49:11-12
(iv) Obeying and Respecting Parents
Al-Qur'an 17:23, 24
(v) Celibacy or Monasticism is prohibited in Islam
Sahih Bukhari: Vol. 7 Book of Nikah, Chapter No. 3, Hadith No. 4
(vi) Loving, being Kind and Just to your Wife
Al-Qur'an 4:19
(vii) Abstaining from Adultery
Al-Qur'an 17:32
D. Dressing Modestly
(i) Al-Qur'an 24:30
Mathew 5:27- YE HAVE HEARD THAT IT WAS SAID BY THEM OF OLD TIME
THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY-
Mathew 5-28- BUT I SAY UNTO YOU THAT WHOSOEVER LOOKETH ON A WOMAN TO LUST AFTER HER HATH COMMITTED ADULTERY WITH HER ALREADY IN HIS HEART.

(ii) Al-Qur'an 24:31
(iii) Six Criteria for Hijab in Islam

Deuteronomy 22:5 A woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment; for whosoever doeth these things is an abomination unto the LORD thy God. {P}

I Timothy 2:9 e.g. of Mary
/2-9- IN LIKE MANNER ALSO THAT WOMEN ADORN THEMSELVES IN MODEST APPAREL WITH SHAMEFACEDNESS AND SOBRIETY NOT WITH BROIDED HAIR
OR GOLD OR PEARLS OR COSTLY ARRAY

I Corinthians 11:5 BUT EVERY WOMAN THAT PRAYETH OR PROPHESIETH WITH HER HEAD UNCOVERED DISHONOURETH HER HEAD- FOR THAT IS EVEN ALL ONE AS IF SHE WERE SHAVEN.
11-6- FOR IF THE WOMAN BE NOT COVERED LET HER ALSO BE SHORN- BUT IF IT BE A SHAME FOR A WOMAN TO BE SHORN OR SHAVEN LET HER BE COVERED.


E.Circumcision
Acts 7:8 AND HE GAVE HIM THE COVENANT OF CIRCUMCISION- AND SO ABRAHAM BEGAT ISAAC AND CIRCUMCISED HIM THE EIGHTH DAY AND ISAAC BEGAT JACOB AND JACOB BEGAT THE TWELVE PATRIARCHS.

John 7:22 MOSES THEREFORE GAVE UNTO YOU CIRCUMCISION (NOT BECAUSE IT IS OF MOSES BUT OF THE FATHERS) AND YE ON THE SABBATH DAY CIRCUMCISE A MAN.

Luke 2:21 AND WHEN EIGHT DAYS WERE ACCOMPLISHED FOR THE CIRCUMCISING OF THE CHILD HIS NAME WAS CALLED JESUS WHICH WAS SO NAMED OF THE ANGEL BEFORE HE WAS CONCEIVED IN THE WOMB.


F. In short, every Muslim should follow all the Commandments of Allah (swt) and His Messenger Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and abstain from the things they have prohibited.

CONCLUSION

(a) If Christian is a person who follows the teachings of Christ (pbuh) and not one who worships Christ (pbuh). (We are more Christian than the Christians themselves).

(b) Muslim is a person who submits his will to Allah.
Jesus (pbuh) said, "not my will but thy will be done." i.e. Muslim.

John 5:30 I CAN OF MINE OWN SELF DO NOTHING- AS I HEAR I JUDGE- AND MY JUDGMENT IS JUST BECAUSE I SEEK NOT MINE OWN WILL BUT THE WILL OF THE FATHER WHICH HATH SENT ME.


(c) Al-Qur'an 5:82

[QAMERSLAND]

PROVING THE EXISTENCE OF ALLAH (SWT) (GOD) TO AN ATHEIST

by

Dr. Zakir Naik

CONGRATULATING AN ATHEIST

Normally, when I meet an atheist, the first thing I like to do is to congratulate him and say, " My special congratulations to you", because most of the people who believe in God are doing blind belief - he is a Christian, because his father is a Christian; he is a Hindu, because his father is a Hindu; the majority of the people in the world are blindly following the religion of their fathers. An atheist, on the other hand, even though he may belong to a religious family, uses his intellect to deny the existence of God; what ever concept or qualities of God he may have learnt in his religion may not seem to be logical to him.

My Muslim brothers may question me, "Zakir, why are you congratulating an atheist?" The reason that I am congratulating an atheist is because he agrees with the first part of the Shahada i.e. the Islamic Creed, ‘La ilaaha’ - meaning ‘there is no God’. So half my job is already done; now the only part left is ‘il lallah’ i.e. ‘BUT ALLAH’ which I shall do Insha Allah. With others (who are not atheists) I have to first remove from their minds the wrong concept of God they may have and then put the correct concept of one true God.

LOGICAL CONCEPT OF GOD

My first question to the atheist will be: "What is the definition of God?" For a person to say there is no God, he should know what is the meaning of God. If I hold a book and say that ‘this is a pen’, for the opposite person to say, ‘it is not a pen’, he should know what is the definition of a pen, even if he does not know nor is able to recognise or identify the object I am holding in my hand. For him to say this is not a pen, he should at least know what a pen means. Similarly for an atheist to say ‘there is no God’, he should at least know the concept of God. His concept of God would be derived from the surroundings in which he lives. The god that a large number of people worship has got human qualities - therefore he does not believe in such a god. Similarly a Muslim too does not and should not believe in such false gods.

If a non-Muslim believes that Islam is a merciless religion with something to do with terrorism; a religion which does not give rights to women; a religion which contradicts science; in his limited sense that non-Muslim is correct to reject such Islam. The problem is he has a wrong picture of Islam. Even I reject such a false picture of Islam, but at the same time, it becomes my duty as a Muslim to present the correct picture of Islam to that non-Muslim i.e. Islam is a merciful religion, it gives equal rights to the women, it is not incompatible with logic, reason and science; if I present the correct facts about Islam, that non-Muslim may Inshallah accept Islam.

Similarly the atheist rejects the false gods and the duty of every Muslim is to present the correct concept of God which he shall Insha Allah not refuse.

(You may refer to my article, ‘Concept of God in Islam’, for more details)


QUR’AN AND MODERN SCIENCE

The methods of proving the existence of God with usage of the material provided in the ‘Concept of God in Islam’ to an atheist may satisfy some but not all.

Many atheists demand a scientific proof for the existence of God. I agree that today is the age of science and technology. Let us use scientific knowledge to kill two birds with one stone, i.e. to prove the existence of God and simultaneously prove that the Qur’an is a revelation of God.

If a new object or a machine, which no one in the world has ever seen or heard of before, is shown to an atheist or any person and then a question is asked, " Who is the first person who will be able to provide details of the mechanism of this unknown object? After little bit of thinking, he will reply, ‘the creator of that object.’ Some may say ‘the producer’ while others may say ‘the manufacturer.’ What ever answer the person gives, keep it in your mind, the answer will always be either the creator, the producer, the manufacturer or some what of the same meaning, i.e. the person who has made it or created it. Don’t grapple with words, whatever answer he gives, the meaning will be same, therefore accept it.

SCIENTIFIC FACTS MENTIONED IN THE QUR’AN: for details on this subject please refer to my book, ‘THE QUR’AN AND MODERN SCIENCE – COMPATIBLE OR INCOMPATIBLE?


THEORY OF PROBABILITY

In mathematics there is a theory known as ‘Theory of Probability’. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%.

A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.

Let us apply this theory of probability to the Qur’an, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Qur’an which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.

At the time when the Qur’an was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Qur’an rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.

The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Qur’an rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.

Further, the Qur’an also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Qur’an rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.

The Qur’an speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Qur’an is Divine.


CREATOR IS THE AUTHOR OF THE QUR’AN

The only logical answer to the question as to who could have mentioned all these scientific facts 1400 years ago before they were discovered, is exactly the same answer initially given by the atheist or any person, to the question who will be the first person who will be able to tell the mechanism of the unknown object. It is the ‘CREATOR’, the producer, the Manufacturer of the whole universe and its contents. In the English language He is ‘God’, or more appropriate in the Arabic language, ‘ALLAH’.

QUR’AN IS A BOOK OF SIGNS AND NOT SCIENCE

Let me remind you that the Qur’an is not a book of Science, ‘S-C-I-E-N-C-E’ but a book of Signs ‘S-I-G-N-S’ i.e. a book of ayaats. The Qur’an contains more than 6,000 ayaats, i.e. ‘signs’, out of which more than a thousand speak about Science. I am not trying to prove that the Qur’an is the word of God using scientific knowledge as a yard stick because any yardstick is supposed to be more superior than what is being checked or verified. For us Muslims the Qur’an is the Furqan i.e. criteria to judge right from wrong and the ultimate yardstick which is more superior to scientific knowledge.

But for an educated man who is an atheist, scientific knowledge is the ultimate test which he believes in. We do know that science many a times takes ‘U’ turns, therefore I have restricted the examples only to scientific facts which have sufficient proof and evidence and not scientific theories based on assumptions. Using the ultimate yardstick of the atheist, I am trying to prove to him that the Qur’an is the word of God and it contains the scientific knowledge which is his yardstick which was discovered recently, while the Qur’an was revealed 1400 year ago. At the end of the discussion, we both come to the same conclusion that God though superior to science, is not incompatible with it.


SCIENCE IS ELIMINATING MODELS OF GOD BUT NOT GOD

Francis Bacon, the famous philosopher, has rightly said that a little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God. Scientists today are eliminating models of God, but they are not eliminating God. If you translate this into Arabic, it is La illaha illal la, There is no god, (god with a small ‘g’ that is fake god) but God (with a capital ‘G’).

Surah Fussilat:

"Soon We will show them our signs in the (farthest) regions (of the earth), and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things?"

[Al-Quran 41:53]

[talipozdemir]

Dear Brothers and Sisters,
Once again I welcome all of you with Islamic Greeting,

Aslaamu Alykum( May God Almighty be peace on you) ,

Greet you in the same manner as Jesus (pbuh) greeted in Hebrew Luke 24:36

AND AS THEY THUS SPAKE JESUS HIMSELF STOOD IN THE MIDST OF THEM
AND SAITH UNTO THEM PEACE BE UNTO YOU.( Sholam alay kum)’


I am not surprised to see your reaction about Islam, Actually, your reaction is because of knowledge that you get from indirect source like all kind of Media and online

It seems that I am the only Muslim in this Forum, I thank God who gave me opportunity to talk to you in this forum to convey the Message of Almighty God, i welcome the allegation that you have put on me and Islam, i will just say learn Islam not the Muslims because all muslims are not following true Islam

Some of you may not believe in God, to them I congratulate that they have rejected the false God, Inshallah, if you will learn about the Concept of God in Islam, you will believe in it.

Those who are Christians, I will request them to go back to your scripture and read what Jesus (Peace be Upon him) says in the context with undertanding,

I would like to request all my Non Muslims Brothers and Sisters that they should learn a little bit of Islamic believe then By God willing you will be able to differentiate and answer your questions that you have opposed on me.

Let’s first look at what the Holy scriptures say about Similarities between Islam and Christianity and we discuss the differences later because this is right way to achieve universal brotherhood.

Similarities / Similar Teachings in the Qur’an and the Bible which Muslims follow but Christians don't

I ISLAM

1. DEFINITION

A. Meaning of Islam

(i) Islam is derived from the word salaam meaning peace.

(ii) Submission to the Will of Allah (swt) i.e. God Almighty.

B. Meaning of ‘Muslim’ – One who submits his will to Allah.

C. Islam is not a new religion found by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

2. MESSENGERS IN ISLAM
A. (i) To every nation was sent a Guide or a Messenger
Al-Qur'an 35:24
Al-Qur'an 13:7
(ii) 25 Prophets mentioned by name in the Qur'an

(iii) Islam is the only non-Christian faith that believes in Jesus (pbuh)
(iv) Stories only of some prophets mentioned in Qur'an
Al-Qur'an 4:164
Al-Qur'an 40:78
(v) More than 1,24,000 Messengers according to Hadith

B. (i) Previous Messengers were only sent for their people and nation and their complete message was meant only for a particular time period.

(ii) Moses (pbuh) was only sent for the Jews.
(iii) Jesus (pbuh) sent only for the Jews i.e. lost sheep of Israel.
Al-Qur'an 3:49
Mathew 10:5-6 10-5- THESE TWELVE JESUS SENT FORTH AND COMMANDED THEM SAYING GO NOT INTO THE WAY OF THE GENTILES AND INTO ANY CITY OF THE SAMARITANS ENTER YE NOT-
/10-6- BUT GO RATHER TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL.

Mathew 15:24 But he answered and said I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of The House of Israel
(iv) Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is the Last and Final Messenger for the
Whole of Mankind.
Al-Qur'an 33:40
Al-Qur'an 21:107
Al-Qur'an 34:28
Sahih Bukhari Vol.1 Book of Salaah Chapter 56 Hadith No. 429


(v) Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) prophesized in the Bible.
Al-Qur'an 7:157
Al-Qur'an 61:6
Deuteronomy 18:18 I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee; and I will put My words in his mouth, and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Isaiah 29:12 and the writing is delivered to him that is not learned, saying: 'Read this, I pray thee'; and he saith: 'I am not learned.' {S}
Song of Solomon 5:16 His mouth is most sweet; yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.'

(John 16:7: NEVERTHELESS I TELL YOU THE TRUTH IT IS EXPEDIENT FOR YOU THAT I GO AWAY- FOR IF I GO NOT AWAY
THE COMFORTER WILL NOT COME UNTO YOU BUT IF I DEPART
I WILL SEND HIM UNTO YOU.)
(John 16:12-14: I HAVE YET MANY THINGS TO SAY UNTO YOU BUT YE CANNOT BEAR THEM NOW.
16-13- HOWBEIT WHEN HE
THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH IS COME
HE WILL GUIDE YOU INTO ALL TRUTH- FOR HE SHALL NOT SPEAK OF HIMSELF BUT WHATSOEVER HE SHALL HEAR THAT SHALL HE SPEAK- AND HE WILL SHEW YOU THINGS TO COME.
16-14- HE SHALL GLORIFY ME- FOR HE SHALL RECEIVE OF MINE
AND SHALL SHEW IT UNTO YOU.

3. REVELATIONS OF GOD
A. Several Revelations sent by Allah – Al-Qur'an 13:38.
By name only four are mentioned in the Qur’an.
B. (i) The Qur’an is the Last and Final Revelation.

(ii) All previous Revelations before Qur'an were only sent for a particular group of people and for a particular time period
(iii) The Qur’an was Revealed for the Whole of Mankind
Al-Qur'an 14:1
Al-Qur'an 14:52
Al-Qur'an 2:185
Al-Qur'an 39:41
II PILLARS OF ISLAM:

1. Tauheed: Monotheism
A. La ilaha ilallahu, Muhammad-ur-Rasoolullah
Sahih Bukhari Vol. 1 Hadith No. 7
B. Believe in Allah and the Last Day, and the Angels and the Book and the Messengers.
Al-Qur'an 2:177
C. Come to common terms — Worship of one God
Al-Qur'an 3:64
D. Concept of God
Al-Qur'an 112:1-4
Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is one.
Mark 12:29 AND JESUS ANSWERED HIM THE FIRST OF ALL THE COMMANDMENTS IS HEAR O ISRAEL THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD-

E. Shirk – Biggest Sin
Al-Qur'an 4:48
Al-Qur'an 4:116
Exodus 20:2-5
2 I am the LORD thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.
3 Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image, nor any manner of likeness, of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth;
4 thou shalt not bow down unto them, nor serve them; for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate Me;
5 and showing mercy unto the thousandth generation of them that love Me and keep My commandments. {S}
Deuteronomy 5:7-9
7 Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image, even any manner of likeness, of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
8 Thou shalt not bow down unto them, nor serve them; for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the third and upon the fourth generation of them that hate Me
9 and showing mercy unto the thousandth generation of them that love Me and keep My commandments. {S}
F. Jesus (pbuh) not God. He never claimed Divinity
Al-Qur'an 5:72
John 14:28YE HAVE HEARD HOW I SAID UNTO YOU
I GO AWAY AND COME AGAIN UNTO YOU. IF YE LOVED ME
YE WOULD REJOICE BECAUSE I SAID I GO UNTO THE FATHER- FOR MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I.

John 10:29 MY FATHER WHICH GAVE THEM ME IS GREATER THAN ALL AND NO MAN IS ABLE TO PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY FATHER'S HAND.

Mathew 12:28 BUT IF I CAST OUT DEVILS BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD
THEN THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS COME UNTO YOU.

Luke 11:20 BUT IF I WITH THE FINGER OF GOD CAST OUT DEVILS
NO DOUBT THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS COME UPON YOU.

John 5:30 I CAN OF MINE OWN SELF DO NOTHING- AS I HEAR
I JUDGE- AND MY JUDGMENT IS JUST BECAUSE I SEEK NOT MINE OWN WILL
BUT THE WILL OF THE FATHER WHICH HATH SENT ME.

Acts 2:21 YE MEN OF ISRAEL HEAR THESE WORDS JESUS OF NAZARETH A MAN APPROVED OF GOD AMONG YOU BY MIRACLES AND WONDERS AND SIGNS WHICH GOD DID BY HIM IN THE MIDST OF YOU AS YE YOURSELVES ALSO KNOW-

G. 99 Attributes of Almighty God
Al-Qur'an 17:110
H. Prefer using name ‘Allah’ rather than the word ‘God’ as the word ‘God’ can be played around with. Allah in the Bible – Eli, Eli, Lama Sabachthani
Mark 15:34 AND AT THE NINTH HOUR JESUS CRIED WITH A LOUD VOICE
SAYING ELOI ELOI LAMA SABACHTHANI?
WHICH IS BEING INTERPRETED MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME?

Mathew 27:46 AND ABOUT THE NINTH HOUR JESUS CRIED WITH A LOUD VOICE
SAYING ELI ELI LAMA SABACHTHANI? THAT IS TO SAY MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME?

2. Salaah

A. Not merely Prayers but Programming
Al-Qur'an 5:90
Al-Qur'an 2:188
B. Prayers restrain you from shameful and unjust deeds
Al-Qur'an 29:45
C. Salaah timings – for healthy soul five times a day
Al-Qur'an 17:78
Al-Qur'an 20:130
D. Take off shoes before entering mosque.
(i) Commandment of Allah to Moses
Al-Qur'an 20:11-12
Exodus 3:5 And He said: 'Draw not nigh hither; put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground.'
Acts 7:33 THEN SAID THE LORD TO HIM PUT OFF THY SHOES FROM THY FEET- FOR THE PLACE WHERE THOU STANDEST IS HOLY GROUND.

(ii) Can Pray with Shoes.
Sunan Abu Dawood – Vol. 1, Book of Salaah, Chapter 240,
Hadith No. 652-653.
(iii) Hygienic

E. Ablution
(i) Al-Qur'an 5:6
Exodus 40:31-32
31 that Moses and Aaron and his sons might wash their hands and their feet thereat;
32 when they went into the tent of meeting, and when they came near unto the altar, they should wash; as the LORD commanded Moses. {S}
Acts 21:26 THEN PAUL TOOK THE MEN AND THE NEXT DAY PURIFYING HIMSELF WITH THEM ENTERED INTO THE TEMPLE TO SIGNIFY THE ACCOMPLISHMENT OF THE DAYS OF PURIFICATION UNTIL THAT AN OFFERING SHOULD BE OFFERED FOR EVERY ONE OF THEM.

(ii) Hygienic

(iii) Mental Preparation
F. Stand shoulder to shoulder, while praying –
Sahih Bukhari – Vol. 1, Book of Adhan Chapter 75 Hadith no. 692
Abu Dawood – Vol. 1, Book of Salaah Chapter 245 Hadith No. 666.

G. Sujud – Prostration

(i) To humble your mind, humble your body
(ii) Sujud mentioned 92 times in the Qur’an
Al-Qur'an 3:43
Al-Qur'an 22:77
(ii) Prostration in the Bible
Genesis 17:3; 3 And Abram fell on his face; and God talked with him, saying:
Numbers 20:6 And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tent of meeting, and fell upon their faces; and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them. {P}

Joshua 5:14; And he said: 'Nay, but I am captain of the host of the LORD; I am now come.' And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and bowed down, and said unto him: 'What saith my lord unto his servant?'
Mathew 26:39 AND HE WENT A LITTLE FURTHER AND FELL ON HIS FACE AND PRAYED SAYING O MY FATHER IF IT BE POSSIBLE LET THIS CUP PASS FROM ME- NEVERTHELESS NOT AS I WILL BUT AS THOU WILT.

3. Zakaah

A. Meaning: Purification and Growth
B. Description: 2.5% of saving every lunar year in charity
Al-Qur'an 9:60
C. If every human being gives Zakaah, not a single person will die of hunger.
D. "Wealth does not circulate only amongst the wealthy and the rich"
Al-Qur'an 59:7
E. I Peter 4:8 AND ABOVE ALL THINGS HAVE FERVENT CHARITY AMONG YOURSELVES- FOR CHARITY SHALL COVER THE MULTITUDE OF SINS.


4. SAUM - FASTING

A. Description – one lunar month i.e. during the month of Ramadaan every lunar year, Muslims fast, i.e. abstain from food and drinks from sunrise till sunset.
B. Benefits: learn self-restraint. If you can control your hunger you can control almost all your desires. It enhances spiritual awareness.
Al-Qur'an 2:183
C. Medical Benefits:

(a) Increases absorption capacity of intestines

(b) Lowers cholesterol.

D. Discourages smoking, alcoholism and other addictions.

E. Bible prescribes Fasting
Mathew 17:21 HOWBEIT THIS KIND GOETH NOT OUT BUT BY PRAYER AND FASTING.
Mark 9:29 AND HE SAID UNTO THEM THIS KIND CAN COME FORTH BY NOTHING
BUT BY PRAYER AND FASTING.

5. HAJJ

A. Description – Pilgrimage atleast once in life time if you can afford it
B. Universal Brotherhood – 2.5 million people from all over the world gather, wear two pieces of unsewn cloth, preferably white. Cannot differentiate between rich and poor.
Al-Qur'an 49:13
C. Significance of Kaaba – Muslims don’t worship it
Psalms 84:4-7
4 Yea, the sparrow hath found a house, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may lay her young; {N} Thine altars, O LORD of hosts, my King, and my God--.
5 Happy are they that dwell in Thy house, they are ever praising Thee. Selah
6 Happy is the man whose strength is in Thee; in whose heart are the highways.
7 Passing through the valley of Baca they make it a place of springs; {N}
yea, the early rain clotheth it with blessings.

III ISLAM IS A COMPLETE WAY OF LIFE
These five pillars do not constitute complete Islam. Only if the pillars are strong, will the structure be strong.
1. HUMANS CREATED TO WORSHIP ALLAH
A. Jinn and Man created for worship of Allah
Al-Qur'an 51:56
B. Meaning of Ibadaah – root word Abd meaning ‘slave’.

2. OBEYING COMMANDMENTS OF ALLAH IS SUBMITTING YOUR WILL TO ALLAH
A. Abstaining from alcohol
Al-Qur'an 5:90
Proverbs 20:1
1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink is riotous; and whosoever reeleth thereby is not wise.
Ephesians 5:18 AND BE NOT DRUNK WITH WINE WHEREIN IS EXCESS BUT BE FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT

B. Abstaining from prohibited food
Al-Qur'an 5:5
Al-Qur'an 2:173, 5:3, 6:145, 16:115
(i) Dead meat
Leviticus 17:15 And every soul that eateth that which dieth of itself, or that which is torn of beasts, whether he be home-born or a stranger, he shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even; then shall he be clean.

Deuteronomy 14:21 Ye shall not eat of any thing that dieth of itself; thou mayest give it unto the stranger that is within thy gates, that he may eat it; or thou mayest sell it unto a foreigner; for thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk. {P}
(ii) Blood
Genesis 9:4, only flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
Leviticus 17:14, For as to the life of all flesh, the blood thereof is all one with the life thereof; therefore I said unto the children of Israel: Ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh; for the life of all flesh is the blood thereof; whosoever eateth it shall be cut off.
Deuteronomy 12:16, 16 Only ye shall not eat the blood; thou shalt pour it out upon the earth as water.
I Samuel 14:33 Then they told Saul, saying: 'Behold, the people sin against the LORD, in that they eat with the blood.' And he said: 'Ye have dealt treacherously; roll a great stone unto me this day.'
Acts 15:29 HAT YE ABSTAIN FROM MEATS OFFERED TO IDOLS AND FROM BLOOD
AND FROM THINGS STRANGLED AND FROM FORNICATION- FROM WHICH IF YE KEEP YOURSELVES YE SHALL DO WELL. FARE YE WELL.

(iii) Pork is prohibited
Leviticus 11:7-8
7And the swine, because he parteth the hoof, and is cloven-footed, but cheweth not the cud, he is unclean unto you.
8 Of their flesh ye shall not eat, and their carcasses ye shall not touch; they are unclean unto you.

Deuteronomy 14:8 and the swine, because he parteth the hoof but cheweth not the cud, he is unclean unto you; of their flesh ye shall not eat, and their carcasses ye shall not touch. {S}

Isaiah 65:2 I have spread out My hands all the day unto a rebellious people, that walk in a way that is not good, after their own thoughts;
3 A people that provoke Me to My face continually, that sacrifice in gardens, and burn incense upon bricks;
4 That sit among the graves, and lodge in the vaults; that eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels
5 That say: 'Stand by thyself, come not near to me, for I am holier than thou'; these are a smoke in My nose, a fire that burneth all the day.

(iv) Food on which names beside Allah have been invoked
Acts 15:29;
15-29- THAT YE ABSTAIN FROM MEATS OFFERED TO IDOLS
AND FROM BLOOD AND FROM THINGS STRANGLED AND FROM FORNICATION- FROM WHICH IF YE KEEP YOURSELVES YE SHALL DO WELL. FARE YE WELL.

Revelation 2:14
2-14- BUT I HAVE A FEW THINGS AGAINST THEE BECAUSE THOU HAST THERE THEM THAT HOLD THE DOCTRINE OF BALAAM WHO TAUGHT BALAC TO CAST A STUMBLINGBLOCK BEFORE THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL TO EAT THINGS SACRIFICED UNTO IDOLS AND TO COMMIT FORNICATION.


C. (i) Being Honest in your Business

(ii) Helping Neighbours
Al-Qur'an 107:1-7
(iii) Abstaining from Backbiting
Al-Qur'an 104:1-3
Al-Qur'an 49:11-12
(iv) Obeying and Respecting Parents
Al-Qur'an 17:23, 24
(v) Celibacy or Monasticism is prohibited in Islam
Sahih Bukhari: Vol. 7 Book of Nikah, Chapter No. 3, Hadith No. 4
(vi) Loving, being Kind and Just to your Wife
Al-Qur'an 4:19
(vii) Abstaining from Adultery
Al-Qur'an 17:32
D. Dressing Modestly
(i) Al-Qur'an 24:30
Mathew 5:27- YE HAVE HEARD THAT IT WAS SAID BY THEM OF OLD TIME
THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY-
Mathew 5-28- BUT I SAY UNTO YOU THAT WHOSOEVER LOOKETH ON A WOMAN TO LUST AFTER HER HATH COMMITTED ADULTERY WITH HER ALREADY IN HIS HEART.

(ii) Al-Qur'an 24:31
(iii) Six Criteria for Hijab in Islam

Deuteronomy 22:5 A woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment; for whosoever doeth these things is an abomination unto the LORD thy God. {P}

I Timothy 2:9 e.g. of Mary
/2-9- IN LIKE MANNER ALSO THAT WOMEN ADORN THEMSELVES IN MODEST APPAREL WITH SHAMEFACEDNESS AND SOBRIETY NOT WITH BROIDED HAIR
OR GOLD OR PEARLS OR COSTLY ARRAY

I Corinthians 11:5 BUT EVERY WOMAN THAT PRAYETH OR PROPHESIETH WITH HER HEAD UNCOVERED DISHONOURETH HER HEAD- FOR THAT IS EVEN ALL ONE AS IF SHE WERE SHAVEN.
11-6- FOR IF THE WOMAN BE NOT COVERED LET HER ALSO BE SHORN- BUT IF IT BE A SHAME FOR A WOMAN TO BE SHORN OR SHAVEN LET HER BE COVERED.


E.Circumcision
Acts 7:8 AND HE GAVE HIM THE COVENANT OF CIRCUMCISION- AND SO ABRAHAM BEGAT ISAAC AND CIRCUMCISED HIM THE EIGHTH DAY AND ISAAC BEGAT JACOB AND JACOB BEGAT THE TWELVE PATRIARCHS.

John 7:22 MOSES THEREFORE GAVE UNTO YOU CIRCUMCISION (NOT BECAUSE IT IS OF MOSES BUT OF THE FATHERS) AND YE ON THE SABBATH DAY CIRCUMCISE A MAN.

Luke 2:21 AND WHEN EIGHT DAYS WERE ACCOMPLISHED FOR THE CIRCUMCISING OF THE CHILD HIS NAME WAS CALLED JESUS WHICH WAS SO NAMED OF THE ANGEL BEFORE HE WAS CONCEIVED IN THE WOMB.


F. In short, every Muslim should follow all the Commandments of Allah (swt) and His Messenger Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and abstain from the things they have prohibited.

CONCLUSION

(a) If Christian is a person who follows the teachings of Christ (pbuh) and not one who worships Christ (pbuh). (We are more Christian than the Christians themselves).

(b) Muslim is a person who submits his will to Allah.
Jesus (pbuh) said, "not my will but thy will be done." i.e. Muslim.

John 5:30 I CAN OF MINE OWN SELF DO NOTHING- AS I HEAR I JUDGE- AND MY JUDGMENT IS JUST BECAUSE I SEEK NOT MINE OWN WILL BUT THE WILL OF THE FATHER WHICH HATH SENT ME.


(c) Al-Qur'an 5:82

Hi.At first thanks for trying to giving useful information to other people.
But I think islam & Koran is not something general. So, you musnt place this topic under this headline. But If you really a good-minded one, you can ask to the administrator of this forum to open a category to talk on Religious stuff.

Dont let people to become tired of you with thinking all about same topic.Write shorter and more clear.
Thanks for being polite.

Regards,
talipozdemir

[ukman]

admin get this dickhead off .your letting him fuck up your site .SOS GAV please sort this wanker out

[Get Real!]

Dear Brothers and Sisters,
Once again I welcome all of you with Islamic Greeting,

Everyone rise...











You may be seated...

[karma]

Time to leave the forum for a while
I always wanted to be the unique weirdo here
Qamersland & Talip good luck..
I really cant handle Islam lessons in Summer..
C ya , some other time ..