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Postby QAMERSLAND » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:10 pm

i am not controdicting brother but because the medium we are using is not where we can explain everything 100 % ,

Jesus PBUH him said offer the other cheek,
you tell me are you christians following it?

if i come an hit you every morning, will u offer the other?

jesus said in a context, but i see, Bush and Blair didnt offer the other cheek


i am really sorry that you are not trying understand but believing false information u got
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Postby Southerner » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:35 pm

QAMERSLAND wrote:i am not controdicting brother but because the medium we are using is not where we can explain everything 100 % ,
Jesus PBUH him said offer the other cheek,
you tell me are you christians following it?
if i come an hit you every morning, will u offer the other?
jesus said in a context, but i see, Bush and Blair didnt offer the other cheek
i am really sorry that you are not trying understand but believing false information u got
If you came and hit me everymorning you would be contradicting your own preachings, stop acting as if I'm promoting Christianity it's you who came here preaching I'm just pointing out flaws/contradictions in your preachnigs
I'm not believing false information nor am I Bliar or Bush fanatic, nor do two wrongs make a right, those are you contradictory sexist preachings.
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Postby Southerner » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:38 pm

QAMERSLAND wrote:i am living as a Muslim should live anywhere, the muslims who live and follow the western ways will be judge on the day of judgement
So you believe that we should have stoning to death in the UK for anyone who says Boo to allah or any muslim woman who has a bit on the side.
Get real, those beliefs belong in the tales of the arabian nights and the backsreets of third world arab countries.
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Re: Muslims...the peaceful religion????

Postby The Microphone » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:42 pm

Get Real! wrote:
The Microphone wrote:Muslims...the peaceful religion???

The religion you’re probably referring to is called “Islam” and the believer of this religion is called a “Moslem” but anyway, the Bible and the Qur’an are very similar in their teachings so how do you equate with a thread called “Muslims...the peaceful religion???”?

Perhaps you don’t approve of some of the things being done by some Arabs/Muslims just as many of us also condemn many things being done by Westerners/Christians but what has the Islamic religion got to do with it? Nothing that’s what!

If you want to complain about some people doing certain things you don’t approve of that also happen to be Muslims then you need to phrase it as such but please don’t blame Islam because that’s not where the problem lies.

Regards, GR.


GR... read the opening post again. It is not I who said this. I didnt make it up. It came from a Government Ministers own mouth. Don't nit-pick over spellings either. It is not clever and it certainly wins you no respect and I dont need a lecture from you!

The religion has everything to do with it. All we hear about is how we manage to offend them with our porcelain pigs on our window sills, our celebration of christmas and easter, our cross of st george flags and how they want their own schools, courts and law...in a civilised country....OUR country....not some 3rd world timepiece...they abuse our hospitality... if they are so keen to live like muslims, go and live in a muslim country!

Just get then next plane out! We'll be there to usher them through the departure gates.
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Postby miltiades » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:31 pm

QAMERSLAND wrote:i am living in cyprus and i lived in a Islamic country for 20 years of my life but now i am living here and enjoying what is good and forbid what is bad as i did while i were living in a Muslim Country,

Well lets hope you grow out of it soon and join the rest of the T/Cs who are firmly positioned in the 21st century . Be religious yes , nothing wrong with that but shove it down our throats only invites unwelcome comments.
Ask your God to stop the religious nuts from killing each other in Palestine and put a stop on the barbaric act of suicide bombs that kill and maim innocent bystanders , the suicide bomber shouting Gods name as he or she detonates. The monsters who feel these young people's minds with so much hatred and lies ought to be castrated and made to emigrate to the moon !!!

For your information there is ONLY one peaceful religion , the Jehovah's Witness , the only religion that denounces violence and killing irrespective of the cause. I have seen the light , hope you do too!

ps. I'm not religious I have seen the light , there is no God and you have as much right as I have to proclaim your faith , but you have no right , any more than I have , to silence me or indeed to take my life away , as it would no doubt happen if I was misfortunate enough to have been born in some country where the death penalty for non believers is the order of the day. May I also point out that I'm by no means anti this or that religion. I judge people by their acts and not to which God they pray.
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Postby Southerner » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:31 pm

QAMERSLAND in the 70s Labour MP Tony Benn although a good man at heart was the best recruiting agent for the Torys/Conservatives, you are not going to recruit any one for your beliefs; quite the opposite in fact.
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Postby Southerner » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:02 am

Muslims...the peaceful religion???? of course it is, only it's Piece not Peace they blow everything and anybody to pieces!

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Postby QAMERSLAND » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:14 am

Dear Brothers and Sisters,
Once again I welcome all of you with Islamic Greeting,

Aslaamu Alykum( May God Almighty be peace on you) ,

Greet you in the same manner as Jesus (pbuh) greeted in Hebrew Luke 24:36

AND AS THEY THUS SPAKE JESUS HIMSELF STOOD IN THE MIDST OF THEM
AND SAITH UNTO THEM PEACE BE UNTO YOU.( Sholam alay kum)’


I am not surprised to see your reaction about Islam, Actually, your reaction is because of knowledge that you get from indirect source like all kind of Media and online

It seems that I am the only Muslim in this Forum, I thank God who gave me opportunity to talk to you in this forum to convey the Message of Almighty God, i welcome the allegation that you have put on me and Islam, i will just say learn Islam not the Muslims because all muslims are not following true Islam

Some of you may not believe in God, to them I congratulate that they have rejected the false God, Inshallah, if you will learn about the Concept of God in Islam, you will believe in it.

Those who are Christians, I will request them to go back to your scripture and read what Jesus (Peace be Upon him) says in the context with undertanding,

I would like to request all my Non Muslims Brothers and Sisters that they should learn a little bit of Islamic believe then By God willing you will be able to differentiate and answer your questions that you have opposed on me.

Let’s first look at what the Holy scriptures say about Similarities between Islam and Christianity and we discuss the differences later because this is right way to achieve universal brotherhood.

Similarities / Similar Teachings in the Qur’an and the Bible which Muslims follow but Christians don't

I ISLAM

1. DEFINITION

A. Meaning of Islam

(i) Islam is derived from the word salaam meaning peace.

(ii) Submission to the Will of Allah (swt) i.e. God Almighty.

B. Meaning of ‘Muslim’ – One who submits his will to Allah.

C. Islam is not a new religion found by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

2. MESSENGERS IN ISLAM
A. (i) To every nation was sent a Guide or a Messenger
Al-Qur'an 35:24
Al-Qur'an 13:7
(ii) 25 Prophets mentioned by name in the Qur'an

(iii) Islam is the only non-Christian faith that believes in Jesus (pbuh)
(iv) Stories only of some prophets mentioned in Qur'an
Al-Qur'an 4:164
Al-Qur'an 40:78
(v) More than 1,24,000 Messengers according to Hadith

B. (i) Previous Messengers were only sent for their people and nation and their complete message was meant only for a particular time period.

(ii) Moses (pbuh) was only sent for the Jews.
(iii) Jesus (pbuh) sent only for the Jews i.e. lost sheep of Israel.
Al-Qur'an 3:49
Mathew 10:5-6 10-5- THESE TWELVE JESUS SENT FORTH AND COMMANDED THEM SAYING GO NOT INTO THE WAY OF THE GENTILES AND INTO ANY CITY OF THE SAMARITANS ENTER YE NOT-
/10-6- BUT GO RATHER TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL.

Mathew 15:24 But he answered and said I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of The House of Israel
(iv) Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is the Last and Final Messenger for the
Whole of Mankind.
Al-Qur'an 33:40
Al-Qur'an 21:107
Al-Qur'an 34:28
Sahih Bukhari Vol.1 Book of Salaah Chapter 56 Hadith No. 429


(v) Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) prophesized in the Bible.
Al-Qur'an 7:157
Al-Qur'an 61:6
Deuteronomy 18:18 I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee; and I will put My words in his mouth, and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Isaiah 29:12 and the writing is delivered to him that is not learned, saying: 'Read this, I pray thee'; and he saith: 'I am not learned.' {S}
Song of Solomon 5:16 His mouth is most sweet; yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.'

(John 16:7: NEVERTHELESS I TELL YOU THE TRUTH IT IS EXPEDIENT FOR YOU THAT I GO AWAY- FOR IF I GO NOT AWAY
THE COMFORTER WILL NOT COME UNTO YOU BUT IF I DEPART
I WILL SEND HIM UNTO YOU.)
(John 16:12-14: I HAVE YET MANY THINGS TO SAY UNTO YOU BUT YE CANNOT BEAR THEM NOW.
16-13- HOWBEIT WHEN HE
THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH IS COME
HE WILL GUIDE YOU INTO ALL TRUTH- FOR HE SHALL NOT SPEAK OF HIMSELF BUT WHATSOEVER HE SHALL HEAR THAT SHALL HE SPEAK- AND HE WILL SHEW YOU THINGS TO COME.
16-14- HE SHALL GLORIFY ME- FOR HE SHALL RECEIVE OF MINE
AND SHALL SHEW IT UNTO YOU.

3. REVELATIONS OF GOD
A. Several Revelations sent by Allah – Al-Qur'an 13:38.
By name only four are mentioned in the Qur’an.
B. (i) The Qur’an is the Last and Final Revelation.

(ii) All previous Revelations before Qur'an were only sent for a particular group of people and for a particular time period
(iii) The Qur’an was Revealed for the Whole of Mankind
Al-Qur'an 14:1
Al-Qur'an 14:52
Al-Qur'an 2:185
Al-Qur'an 39:41
II PILLARS OF ISLAM:

1. Tauheed: Monotheism
A. La ilaha ilallahu, Muhammad-ur-Rasoolullah
Sahih Bukhari Vol. 1 Hadith No. 7
B. Believe in Allah and the Last Day, and the Angels and the Book and the Messengers.
Al-Qur'an 2:177
C. Come to common terms — Worship of one God
Al-Qur'an 3:64
D. Concept of God
Al-Qur'an 112:1-4
Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is one.
Mark 12:29 AND JESUS ANSWERED HIM THE FIRST OF ALL THE COMMANDMENTS IS HEAR O ISRAEL THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD-

E. Shirk – Biggest Sin
Al-Qur'an 4:48
Al-Qur'an 4:116
Exodus 20:2-5
2 I am the LORD thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.
3 Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image, nor any manner of likeness, of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth;
4 thou shalt not bow down unto them, nor serve them; for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate Me;
5 and showing mercy unto the thousandth generation of them that love Me and keep My commandments. {S}
Deuteronomy 5:7-9
7 Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image, even any manner of likeness, of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
8 Thou shalt not bow down unto them, nor serve them; for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the third and upon the fourth generation of them that hate Me
9 and showing mercy unto the thousandth generation of them that love Me and keep My commandments. {S}
F. Jesus (pbuh) not God. He never claimed Divinity
Al-Qur'an 5:72
John 14:28YE HAVE HEARD HOW I SAID UNTO YOU
I GO AWAY AND COME AGAIN UNTO YOU. IF YE LOVED ME
YE WOULD REJOICE BECAUSE I SAID I GO UNTO THE FATHER- FOR MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I.

John 10:29 MY FATHER WHICH GAVE THEM ME IS GREATER THAN ALL AND NO MAN IS ABLE TO PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY FATHER'S HAND.

Mathew 12:28 BUT IF I CAST OUT DEVILS BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD
THEN THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS COME UNTO YOU.

Luke 11:20 BUT IF I WITH THE FINGER OF GOD CAST OUT DEVILS
NO DOUBT THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS COME UPON YOU.

John 5:30 I CAN OF MINE OWN SELF DO NOTHING- AS I HEAR
I JUDGE- AND MY JUDGMENT IS JUST BECAUSE I SEEK NOT MINE OWN WILL
BUT THE WILL OF THE FATHER WHICH HATH SENT ME.

Acts 2:21 YE MEN OF ISRAEL HEAR THESE WORDS JESUS OF NAZARETH A MAN APPROVED OF GOD AMONG YOU BY MIRACLES AND WONDERS AND SIGNS WHICH GOD DID BY HIM IN THE MIDST OF YOU AS YE YOURSELVES ALSO KNOW-

G. 99 Attributes of Almighty God
Al-Qur'an 17:110
H. Prefer using name ‘Allah’ rather than the word ‘God’ as the word ‘God’ can be played around with. Allah in the Bible – Eli, Eli, Lama Sabachthani
Mark 15:34 AND AT THE NINTH HOUR JESUS CRIED WITH A LOUD VOICE
SAYING ELOI ELOI LAMA SABACHTHANI?
WHICH IS BEING INTERPRETED MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME?

Mathew 27:46 AND ABOUT THE NINTH HOUR JESUS CRIED WITH A LOUD VOICE
SAYING ELI ELI LAMA SABACHTHANI? THAT IS TO SAY MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME?

2. Salaah

A. Not merely Prayers but Programming
Al-Qur'an 5:90
Al-Qur'an 2:188
B. Prayers restrain you from shameful and unjust deeds
Al-Qur'an 29:45
C. Salaah timings – for healthy soul five times a day
Al-Qur'an 17:78
Al-Qur'an 20:130
D. Take off shoes before entering mosque.
(i) Commandment of Allah to Moses
Al-Qur'an 20:11-12
Exodus 3:5 And He said: 'Draw not nigh hither; put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground.'
Acts 7:33 THEN SAID THE LORD TO HIM PUT OFF THY SHOES FROM THY FEET- FOR THE PLACE WHERE THOU STANDEST IS HOLY GROUND.

(ii) Can Pray with Shoes.
Sunan Abu Dawood – Vol. 1, Book of Salaah, Chapter 240,
Hadith No. 652-653.
(iii) Hygienic

E. Ablution
(i) Al-Qur'an 5:6
Exodus 40:31-32
31 that Moses and Aaron and his sons might wash their hands and their feet thereat;
32 when they went into the tent of meeting, and when they came near unto the altar, they should wash; as the LORD commanded Moses. {S}
Acts 21:26 THEN PAUL TOOK THE MEN AND THE NEXT DAY PURIFYING HIMSELF WITH THEM ENTERED INTO THE TEMPLE TO SIGNIFY THE ACCOMPLISHMENT OF THE DAYS OF PURIFICATION UNTIL THAT AN OFFERING SHOULD BE OFFERED FOR EVERY ONE OF THEM.

(ii) Hygienic

(iii) Mental Preparation
F. Stand shoulder to shoulder, while praying –
Sahih Bukhari – Vol. 1, Book of Adhan Chapter 75 Hadith no. 692
Abu Dawood – Vol. 1, Book of Salaah Chapter 245 Hadith No. 666.

G. Sujud – Prostration

(i) To humble your mind, humble your body
(ii) Sujud mentioned 92 times in the Qur’an
Al-Qur'an 3:43
Al-Qur'an 22:77
(ii) Prostration in the Bible
Genesis 17:3; 3 And Abram fell on his face; and God talked with him, saying:
Numbers 20:6 And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tent of meeting, and fell upon their faces; and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them. {P}

Joshua 5:14; And he said: 'Nay, but I am captain of the host of the LORD; I am now come.' And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and bowed down, and said unto him: 'What saith my lord unto his servant?'
Mathew 26:39 AND HE WENT A LITTLE FURTHER AND FELL ON HIS FACE AND PRAYED SAYING O MY FATHER IF IT BE POSSIBLE LET THIS CUP PASS FROM ME- NEVERTHELESS NOT AS I WILL BUT AS THOU WILT.

3. Zakaah

A. Meaning: Purification and Growth
B. Description: 2.5% of saving every lunar year in charity
Al-Qur'an 9:60
C. If every human being gives Zakaah, not a single person will die of hunger.
D. "Wealth does not circulate only amongst the wealthy and the rich"
Al-Qur'an 59:7
E. I Peter 4:8 AND ABOVE ALL THINGS HAVE FERVENT CHARITY AMONG YOURSELVES- FOR CHARITY SHALL COVER THE MULTITUDE OF SINS.


4. SAUM - FASTING

A. Description – one lunar month i.e. during the month of Ramadaan every lunar year, Muslims fast, i.e. abstain from food and drinks from sunrise till sunset.
B. Benefits: learn self-restraint. If you can control your hunger you can control almost all your desires. It enhances spiritual awareness.
Al-Qur'an 2:183
C. Medical Benefits:

(a) Increases absorption capacity of intestines

(b) Lowers cholesterol.

D. Discourages smoking, alcoholism and other addictions.

E. Bible prescribes Fasting
Mathew 17:21 HOWBEIT THIS KIND GOETH NOT OUT BUT BY PRAYER AND FASTING.
Mark 9:29 AND HE SAID UNTO THEM THIS KIND CAN COME FORTH BY NOTHING
BUT BY PRAYER AND FASTING.

5. HAJJ

A. Description – Pilgrimage atleast once in life time if you can afford it
B. Universal Brotherhood – 2.5 million people from all over the world gather, wear two pieces of unsewn cloth, preferably white. Cannot differentiate between rich and poor.
Al-Qur'an 49:13
C. Significance of Kaaba – Muslims don’t worship it
Psalms 84:4-7
4 Yea, the sparrow hath found a house, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may lay her young; {N} Thine altars, O LORD of hosts, my King, and my God--.
5 Happy are they that dwell in Thy house, they are ever praising Thee. Selah
6 Happy is the man whose strength is in Thee; in whose heart are the highways.
7 Passing through the valley of Baca they make it a place of springs; {N}
yea, the early rain clotheth it with blessings.

III ISLAM IS A COMPLETE WAY OF LIFE
These five pillars do not constitute complete Islam. Only if the pillars are strong, will the structure be strong.
1. HUMANS CREATED TO WORSHIP ALLAH
A. Jinn and Man created for worship of Allah
Al-Qur'an 51:56
B. Meaning of Ibadaah – root word Abd meaning ‘slave’.

2. OBEYING COMMANDMENTS OF ALLAH IS SUBMITTING YOUR WILL TO ALLAH
A. Abstaining from alcohol
Al-Qur'an 5:90
Proverbs 20:1
1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink is riotous; and whosoever reeleth thereby is not wise.
Ephesians 5:18 AND BE NOT DRUNK WITH WINE WHEREIN IS EXCESS BUT BE FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT

B. Abstaining from prohibited food
Al-Qur'an 5:5
Al-Qur'an 2:173, 5:3, 6:145, 16:115
(i) Dead meat
Leviticus 17:15 And every soul that eateth that which dieth of itself, or that which is torn of beasts, whether he be home-born or a stranger, he shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even; then shall he be clean.

Deuteronomy 14:21 Ye shall not eat of any thing that dieth of itself; thou mayest give it unto the stranger that is within thy gates, that he may eat it; or thou mayest sell it unto a foreigner; for thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk. {P}
(ii) Blood
Genesis 9:4, only flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
Leviticus 17:14, For as to the life of all flesh, the blood thereof is all one with the life thereof; therefore I said unto the children of Israel: Ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh; for the life of all flesh is the blood thereof; whosoever eateth it shall be cut off.
Deuteronomy 12:16, 16 Only ye shall not eat the blood; thou shalt pour it out upon the earth as water.
I Samuel 14:33 Then they told Saul, saying: 'Behold, the people sin against the LORD, in that they eat with the blood.' And he said: 'Ye have dealt treacherously; roll a great stone unto me this day.'
Acts 15:29 HAT YE ABSTAIN FROM MEATS OFFERED TO IDOLS AND FROM BLOOD
AND FROM THINGS STRANGLED AND FROM FORNICATION- FROM WHICH IF YE KEEP YOURSELVES YE SHALL DO WELL. FARE YE WELL.

(iii) Pork is prohibited
Leviticus 11:7-8
7And the swine, because he parteth the hoof, and is cloven-footed, but cheweth not the cud, he is unclean unto you.
8 Of their flesh ye shall not eat, and their carcasses ye shall not touch; they are unclean unto you.

Deuteronomy 14:8 and the swine, because he parteth the hoof but cheweth not the cud, he is unclean unto you; of their flesh ye shall not eat, and their carcasses ye shall not touch. {S}

Isaiah 65:2 I have spread out My hands all the day unto a rebellious people, that walk in a way that is not good, after their own thoughts;
3 A people that provoke Me to My face continually, that sacrifice in gardens, and burn incense upon bricks;
4 That sit among the graves, and lodge in the vaults; that eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels
5 That say: 'Stand by thyself, come not near to me, for I am holier than thou'; these are a smoke in My nose, a fire that burneth all the day.

(iv) Food on which names beside Allah have been invoked
Acts 15:29;
15-29- THAT YE ABSTAIN FROM MEATS OFFERED TO IDOLS
AND FROM BLOOD AND FROM THINGS STRANGLED AND FROM FORNICATION- FROM WHICH IF YE KEEP YOURSELVES YE SHALL DO WELL. FARE YE WELL.

Revelation 2:14
2-14- BUT I HAVE A FEW THINGS AGAINST THEE BECAUSE THOU HAST THERE THEM THAT HOLD THE DOCTRINE OF BALAAM WHO TAUGHT BALAC TO CAST A STUMBLINGBLOCK BEFORE THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL TO EAT THINGS SACRIFICED UNTO IDOLS AND TO COMMIT FORNICATION.


C. (i) Being Honest in your Business

(ii) Helping Neighbours
Al-Qur'an 107:1-7
(iii) Abstaining from Backbiting
Al-Qur'an 104:1-3
Al-Qur'an 49:11-12
(iv) Obeying and Respecting Parents
Al-Qur'an 17:23, 24
(v) Celibacy or Monasticism is prohibited in Islam
Sahih Bukhari: Vol. 7 Book of Nikah, Chapter No. 3, Hadith No. 4
(vi) Loving, being Kind and Just to your Wife
Al-Qur'an 4:19
(vii) Abstaining from Adultery
Al-Qur'an 17:32
D. Dressing Modestly
(i) Al-Qur'an 24:30
Mathew 5:27- YE HAVE HEARD THAT IT WAS SAID BY THEM OF OLD TIME
THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY-
Mathew 5-28- BUT I SAY UNTO YOU THAT WHOSOEVER LOOKETH ON A WOMAN TO LUST AFTER HER HATH COMMITTED ADULTERY WITH HER ALREADY IN HIS HEART.

(ii) Al-Qur'an 24:31
(iii) Six Criteria for Hijab in Islam

Deuteronomy 22:5 A woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment; for whosoever doeth these things is an abomination unto the LORD thy God. {P}

I Timothy 2:9 e.g. of Mary
/2-9- IN LIKE MANNER ALSO THAT WOMEN ADORN THEMSELVES IN MODEST APPAREL WITH SHAMEFACEDNESS AND SOBRIETY NOT WITH BROIDED HAIR
OR GOLD OR PEARLS OR COSTLY ARRAY

I Corinthians 11:5 BUT EVERY WOMAN THAT PRAYETH OR PROPHESIETH WITH HER HEAD UNCOVERED DISHONOURETH HER HEAD- FOR THAT IS EVEN ALL ONE AS IF SHE WERE SHAVEN.
11-6- FOR IF THE WOMAN BE NOT COVERED LET HER ALSO BE SHORN- BUT IF IT BE A SHAME FOR A WOMAN TO BE SHORN OR SHAVEN LET HER BE COVERED.


E.Circumcision
Acts 7:8 AND HE GAVE HIM THE COVENANT OF CIRCUMCISION- AND SO ABRAHAM BEGAT ISAAC AND CIRCUMCISED HIM THE EIGHTH DAY AND ISAAC BEGAT JACOB AND JACOB BEGAT THE TWELVE PATRIARCHS.

John 7:22 MOSES THEREFORE GAVE UNTO YOU CIRCUMCISION (NOT BECAUSE IT IS OF MOSES BUT OF THE FATHERS) AND YE ON THE SABBATH DAY CIRCUMCISE A MAN.

Luke 2:21 AND WHEN EIGHT DAYS WERE ACCOMPLISHED FOR THE CIRCUMCISING OF THE CHILD HIS NAME WAS CALLED JESUS WHICH WAS SO NAMED OF THE ANGEL BEFORE HE WAS CONCEIVED IN THE WOMB.


F. In short, every Muslim should follow all the Commandments of Allah (swt) and His Messenger Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and abstain from the things they have prohibited.

CONCLUSION

(a) If Christian is a person who follows the teachings of Christ (pbuh) and not one who worships Christ (pbuh). (We are more Christian than the Christians themselves).

(b) Muslim is a person who submits his will to Allah.
Jesus (pbuh) said, "not my will but thy will be done." i.e. Muslim.

John 5:30 I CAN OF MINE OWN SELF DO NOTHING- AS I HEAR I JUDGE- AND MY JUDGMENT IS JUST BECAUSE I SEEK NOT MINE OWN WILL BUT THE WILL OF THE FATHER WHICH HATH SENT ME.


(c) Al-Qur'an 5:82
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Postby Southerner » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:44 am

QAMERSLAND are you on some kind of penitence? if you are go and say 5 hail Marys and do us all a favour.
You haven't answered any of my questions, you'r like a recorded message.
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