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Postby Southerner » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:03 pm

Eliko wrote:The early immigrant population of the U.K. were 'invited' to migrate in order to achieve a better standard of life.
The rub is, there was a price to pay and that price was the domination of their country by the host nation.
The extraction of the mineral (and other) wealth, the occupation and construction of military bases, soon exposed the truth behind the apparent generosity of the U.K.

In spite of all the disharmony the immigration policies have created, there is one very relevant point deserving of a little consideration, somewhere among all the machinations of the government's actions, vast profits are being made, if such were not the case immigration would NOT be tolerated, the U.K. government is not the generous benefactor it would have us all believe, that point is evidenced by the way the indigenous population of the U.K. is treated, taxed beyond their means and treated like second class citizens in their own country.:


The vast profits made from colonising went into the pockets of roughly the top 4% of the population, now it works in reverse the same 4% bring in cheap labour and exploit it and in doing so do the indigenous workers out of a job, in Cambridge a factory that was always staffed by local people will now only employ Polish speaking people who work for lower wages than the locals, how can this be good for the economy?
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Postby Southerner » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:15 pm

Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:I'll give you an example fro personal experience. I grew up in Oman when my dad worked for a construction company. We were about 2,000 GC's there with our own school, resturants, bars, xmas celebrations, easter celebrations and church. In fact we were so cu-off from the culture and people of Oman that they police would not come into our community unless we had invited them in.

Sounds like the Omanis are a very tolerant people...


Well as Southerner says..they did need us.

Oman was built almost in its entirety by Cypriots. Our company built their airports, roads, palaces, hotels, hospitals, police and army camps....EVERYTHING.

Ah well, in that case they're terrorists! :roll:
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Postby DT. » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:32 pm

Southerner wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:I'll give you an example fro personal experience. I grew up in Oman when my dad worked for a construction company. We were about 2,000 GC's there with our own school, resturants, bars, xmas celebrations, easter celebrations and church. In fact we were so cu-off from the culture and people of Oman that they police would not come into our community unless we had invited them in.

Sounds like the Omanis are a very tolerant people...


Well as Southerner says..they did need us.

Oman was built almost in its entirety by Cypriots. Our company built their airports, roads, palaces, hotels, hospitals, police and army camps....EVERYTHING.

Ah well, in that case they're terrorists! :roll:
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we're only kidding mate.
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Postby DT. » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:33 pm

WOOHOO!! look at the number of my previous post!
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Postby Eliko » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:38 pm

[quote="Eliko"]QAMERSLAND, the subject of Islam was bound to attract a great deal of controversial opinion due to the fact that the 'Media' is portraying as much negativity as possible in order to satisfy the politics of the day.

There are undoubtedly some very serious issues relevent to the interpretation of the Q'uran/Koran, those issues are precisely the reason for so much of the aforementioned controversy.

The Q'uran is the sacred book upon which the faith of Islam is based, it is written as an instruction as to how one should conduct one's life and covers ALL issues.

There are those who misrepresent the teachings of the holy book, it is to their lasting shame that they do so.

The words of the Q'uran are clear, they cannot be altered, they cannot be successfully interpreted into another language since the structure of the language does not allow an EXACT interpretation and must remain pure.

The Q'uran is therefore an absolute truth, one LETTER of alteration is not permitted and it is because of those facts that all the misunderstandings occur.

Islam , is NOT a line of bearded Pakistanis waiting for a hand-out in a dole queue, NOT a suicide bomber, NOT a smelly neighbour who spits on the pavement and barges past with a shopping trolley, Etc, Etc, Etc.

The teachings of Islam ARE (in my opinion as a non- Muslim), the most profound of all religious teachings, it is a matter of grave sadness that people are so ready to condemn something of which they have little knowledge.

I have read much of the Q'uran (an English interpretation) I am certainly not qualified to condemn it, neither do I feel are many others of my ilk.

In conclusion, I do believe that the whole world would benefit if it WAS subject to the teachings of the holy book.

:) :) :) :) :)[/quo
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Postby miltiades » Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:57 pm

I have stated many times that I'm not religious and do not believe in the mythology created by man in medieval times about a creator. I respect however values that clearly emanate or are supported by religious doctrine such as the 10 commandments , all fundamentally appropriate both in the old times and the modern times. I have no doubt that all religions contain guidelines that to the followers of such religions are sacred , but to the observer and uninitiated to this or that religion , some appear to be bizarre and inhumane. There are numerous examples of contemptible behaviour in the name of religion , and the adherents to the mythological claims of a creator must appreciate that the human brain of those who are not believers must denounce such behaviour regardless .
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Postby Filitsa » Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:34 pm

I don't know but has the Bush got something like "The protector of the faith" in his title like the queen for example. [Zan]


Absolutely not. It would blatantly be unconstitutional.
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Postby steverundle » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:48 am

Comment from DAMSI

"And when Brits and other country expats go to work in Saudi Arabia and other Gulf countries (by choice) they always integrate by living in those walled compounds drinking their areses off"


I lived in Saudi Arabia & other gulf countries for 14 years, and with my parents for seven years before that. The reason that the expats live in the compounds is because the local governments do not want expats integrating with the locals!

I was fortunate that I had several good friends who were local nationals and was shown their way of live, but did I integrate, no way

Saudi has recently allowed expats to gain citizenship based on 20 years continous residency, gainful employment and the ability to read, write and speak Arabic, and then there's no guarantee that it will be granted

As regards abiding by rules and regulations it's a standard clause in most contracts in the Middle East that "you will abide by the rules, regulations and customs of your host country"

As I see it, the UK has done a hell of a lot more to encourage integration than most countries, but the minority always want more and more
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