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[miltiades]

I think it is now time for me to add a few words. Immigrants who came to the UK way back in the 50s and 60s managed to integrate reasonably well with the natives , adopting the British way of life while at the same time retaining their own culture. The new wave of immigrants starting from the late 60s todate , have however steadfastly refused not only to integrate but have also demanded most vociferously the acceptance of their culture and in many cases demanding social changes in order not to find them selves in a situation of feeling offended by social events that have shaped this country for many years. My answer to all this is simple. Dont like it here PISS OFF. No one asked you to come to the UK , Indeed a very large part of you came here as illegal immigrants , bogus asylum seekers eager to risk your lives to enter the UK. Culture doesnt suit you , what a bloody shame , go back to where you came from , precisely the same right that I as an immigrant in the UK ALWAYS HAD.
Just before any one calls me a racist , let me tell you that I will defend such nonsense vigorously. The UK has been good to many many immigrants from the third world . As Tony Blair said some time ago , "you come here you have to abide by our rules and regulations " I did when I came here in 1961 and still do.

miltiades, why is it that you have to present yourself as the epitome of all that is right in any exchange?, you persistently refer to the quotations of discredited politicians, you support the vile actions of the very people who have slaughtered countless innocents and condemn any who are opposed to your opinions.

The only contribution you seem capable of making, lies in your extraordinary habit of insulting people and resorting to foul language.

Look up your past posts, I urge you, you will see the evidence.

Eliko , what the hell do you see as wrong in my post , it is full of common sense that YOU seem to have none. Yes I'm right and Yes you are wrong .
You are in support and always have been of the opinion that the West is anathema and that the barbarians who blow themselves up killing innocents are justified. You are pitiful and once again let me reiterate , what a bloody waste of education , its comparable to gold plating a piece of rusty metal.
Now mate disprove my comments on the UK IMMIGRANTS , dont forget to include the bloody begging thieving Gypsies that are earning their living not only on hand outs but thieving from our shops. I have personally banned them fro my shops and I m not ashamed to admit to despising their thieving ways.

You are correct in stating that I have a habit of insulting people , but you committed to state "deserving " of insults , like paedophiles , thieves , scroungers , morons and guess what f..ng suicide killers.

[denizaksulu]

Good Morning all and esp. Miltiades. There is a vacant post is primeMinister Browns new Cabinet for an advisor for immigration. You are well suited. Congratulations for talking sense. How young are you? (as if I didnnt know).
But then we keep on asking ,Who are these idiots who are in charge of immigration, deportation etc? I would nominate you. Are you up for it?
Regards
DA

[DT.]

I'll give you an example fro personal experience. I grew up in Oman when my dad worked for a construction company. We were about 2,000 GC's there with our own school, resturants, bars, xmas celebrations, easter celebrations and church. In fact we were so cu-off from the culture and people of Oman that they police would not come into our community unless we had invited them in.

Wonder what the Omanis thought of us.

[miltiades]

Good Morning all and esp. Miltiades. There is a vacant post is primeMinister Browns new Cabinet for an advisor for immigration. You are well suited. Congratulations for talking sense. How young are you? (as if I didnnt know).
But then we keep on asking ,Who are these idiots who are in charge of immigration, deportation etc? I would nominate you. Are you up for it?
Regards
DA

Deni , when you and I came here , we knew nothing about benefits and hand outs. All of us that came from Cyprus worked hard to educate ourselves , provide for our families and our future. We are a hard working decent race and a very proud one too that has integrated well into British society at large , both the G/Cs and the T/Cs are well respected for their industrious zeal , family values and honesty.
I appreciate that immigrants have a difficult time adjusting to their new found environment but you will understand when I say that most don't give a shit about "adjusting " they are only here for the beer as they say.
The politicians of all parties are gravely responsible for allowing people into our country and encouraging them to remain hostile to our society , only recently has the government announced that the 500 million pounds spent on translating services for the immigrants will be stopped and redirected towards teaching them English !! I also believe that greater effort should be made in promoting the culture of our society rather than denigrating our national character.

[Southerner]

I'll give you an example fro personal experience. I grew up in Oman when my dad worked for a construction company. We were about 2,000 GC's there with our own school, resturants, bars, xmas celebrations, easter celebrations and church. In fact we were so cu-off from the culture and people of Oman that they police would not come into our community unless we had invited them in.
Wonder what the Omanis thought of us.

They thought don't upset them, keep them separate, let them live their lives because we need them.
In the UK it's don't upset them, keep them separate, let them live their lives even though we don't need them.

[Get Real!]

I'll give you an example fro personal experience. I grew up in Oman when my dad worked for a construction company. We were about 2,000 GC's there with our own school, resturants, bars, xmas celebrations, easter celebrations and church. In fact we were so cu-off from the culture and people of Oman that they police would not come into our community unless we had invited them in.

Sounds like the Omanis are a very tolerant people...

[Eliko]

miltiades, I do not disagree with your contention that the immigration system has strangled the once proud culture of the U.K.

Where we seem to be at constant odds with each other can be easily determined IF you will try to understand the differences in our perspective of the same situation.

The early immigrant population of the U.K. were 'invited' to migrate in order to achieve a better standard of life.
The rub is, there was a price to pay and that price was the domination of their country by the host nation.
The extraction of the mineral (and other) wealth, the occupation and construction of military bases, soon exposed the truth behind the apparent generosity of the U.K.

Subsequent generations began to harbour grievances and the result is what we now see.

It may well be that the immigrants feel justified in bringing ruin to the U.K., since, (They may feel), that the U.K. has damaged the culture of THEIR homelands.

I do believe that there is some credibility in such a perception, you state that you are yourself a product of the early immigrants, my father was also an immigrant like you, he was an industrious and honest man.

In spite of all the disharmony the immigration policies have created, there is one very relevant point deserving of a little consideration, somewhere among all the machinations of the government's actions, vast profits are being made, if such were not the case immigration would NOT be tolerated, the U.K. government is not the generous benefactor it would have us all believe, that point is evidenced by the way the indigenous population of the U.K. is treated, taxed beyond their means and treated like second class citizens in their own country.

Please miltiades, do try to consider the above points, they represent my opinion and I feel they are worthy of your perusal.

Good Luck...................................

[DT.]

I'll give you an example fro personal experience. I grew up in Oman when my dad worked for a construction company. We were about 2,000 GC's there with our own school, resturants, bars, xmas celebrations, easter celebrations and church. In fact we were so cu-off from the culture and people of Oman that they police would not come into our community unless we had invited them in.

Sounds like the Omanis are a very tolerant people...

Well as Southerner says..they did need us.

Oman was built almost in its entirety by Cypriots. Our company built their airports, roads, palaces, hotels, hospitals, police and army camps....EVERYTHING.

[Get Real!]

I'll give you an example fro personal experience. I grew up in Oman when my dad worked for a construction company. We were about 2,000 GC's there with our own school, resturants, bars, xmas celebrations, easter celebrations and church. In fact we were so cu-off from the culture and people of Oman that they police would not come into our community unless we had invited them in.

Sounds like the Omanis are a very tolerant people...

Well as Southerner says..they did need us.

Oman was built almost in its entirety by Cypriots. Our company built their airports, roads, palaces, hotels, hospitals, police and army camps....EVERYTHING.

Ah well, in that case they're terrorists!

[DT.]

I'll give you an example fro personal experience. I grew up in Oman when my dad worked for a construction company. We were about 2,000 GC's there with our own school, resturants, bars, xmas celebrations, easter celebrations and church. In fact we were so cu-off from the culture and people of Oman that they police would not come into our community unless we had invited them in.

Sounds like the Omanis are a very tolerant people...

Well as Southerner says..they did need us.

Oman was built almost in its entirety by Cypriots. Our company built their airports, roads, palaces, hotels, hospitals, police and army camps....EVERYTHING.

Ah well, in that case they're terrorists!

damn straight