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[Southerner]

Southner
Thanks for your another questions regarding Women.
you said that;s what religious leaders have been saying. tell me one of today's leading Islamic scholars who said it,
Dr Zakir Naik
Dr Bilal Philips
Yousuf Estes
Abdul Ramheem Green
Dr Israr Ahemad
Shaikh Ahmad Deedat
Dr Jamal Badwi
these are some of those who are the shoclar of present time, do not mention those religous scholar who are involved in the politics.
about the women in Mosque, find me a single teaching of The Quran and Hadith that prohabits women to go in mosque
Prophet muhammad PBUH said that do not stop women to go in the mosques even if they want to go at night.
what you are talking is that some Mulims have misunderstood and do not allow,
i will say again refer to one inf the above scholar and then you will find what is truth?
regarding the dress for women, Quran Guide us how a man and woman shoud dress to protect their modesty, therefore if some one do not follow, it is a sin. i asked you a question that who are the best ladies among christians? they are female Priests. dont they dress they way Islam teaches?
Bible itself says women shoud me dress full
look arround you and think with logical, you will find the answer.
hope the answer of your question

Congrats miltiades on a very straight to the point reply.
During religious services women are not allowed into certain ares in mosques, you never see a woman praying alongside the men and you never, ever, on film footage, see a woman inside a mosque anywhere during religious services and that is not western propaganda. So according to you QAMERSLAND all the British mosques are out of step with the koran.
On this or another thread that is running there is actualy a qoute from the koran about beating women although no quote about women beating men.
I have yet to see a woman Christian priest dressed in the same manner as islam teaches (although your quote from the koran shows that it is as usual ambiguous), show me one, the idea that woman priests should dressed head to toe in black and looking at the world through a slit in the head dress is utterly ludicrous.
What you should ask yourself is with so much natural rescources why are so many islamic countries still living in the dark ages, poverty stricken and begging for western aid, the answer is quite simple, they're diliberately held back by your religious leaders who know that they would lose control if the population became enlightened.
Go tell the taleban that women are equal and that they (taleban) are in conflict with the teachings on the koran, and the next time you want an Xray just remeber who discovered Radium, Marie Currie a woman, she would have been shot by the taleban.

[QAMERSLAND]

miltiades

thank you to share with us your knowledge from media,

do you think all you see and listen on the international media are 100 % correct?

i gave you a living Example, you can ask this lady who was taken hostage by Taliban, she will better Explain than infomation u got by international media who is in the hands of Politicians,

I came to know by a Malysian Doctors couple who were there in Afghanistan to provide medical Aid to people of Afghanistan.

The lady Doctors said that the images that they showing on international media are fake according to her because she said the Taliban they showed in this clips on internatioanl media are not as the local taliban she met, the way they make triban( a long cloth rolled on the head) . so it must be shouted somewhere else to show to world to justify the war crimes, to potray muslims as the worst.

i thank God i do not have my mind filled by this false information tha you got in your mind, my mind is clearer than yours,

Even suppose i agree with you for the sake of argument, if Usama bin Laden did attacked on September 11, does it mean you attacted a country because of this? and kill 100's of thousand innocent people?

there were many professors from USA universites who said 9/11 was inside job,

how can 15 men could plan in caves in Afghanistan to fly 5 planes in USA to hitt on target,
there is list of proves that 9/11 was inside job, the way twin towers were collapsed, the fire man said when we reached to help people in ground floor, they observed that as someone is pushing the butttons to blast bombs, and most and amazing that they found the passport of the one who was controlling the plane after the buliding were colappsed, i think fire deparment shoud use that metirial to make their dress that could servive in this kind of big incident

at the end i will tell you t what i believe, if if if a muslim did that attack, Islam condems it , islam does not justfy to kill innocent people for any reason even islam does not allow to kill innocent people in the battle field. and the one who did that may not enter the Pradise but hell fire.

after 11 months of this attack 34000 americans reverted to Islam, The Quran was not available in the book shops because people wants to find does islam says to do such attack that media and usa goct blaimed to muslims, and they found that islam condems it and further they were immpressed by reading the holy scripture and Emraced Islam.

many of people got Quran to read to find mistakes to use it against muslims but when they read, they found the truth and entered Islam.

i tell you to read Quran and then tell me where Quran says to kill innocent people or anyother crimes that you and others have mentioned, surely you will not find.

http://www.islamtomorrow.com/

[QAMERSLAND]

miltiades

thank you to share with us your knowledge from media,

do you think all you see and listen on the international media are 100 % correct?

i gave you a living Example, you can ask this lady who was taken hostage by Taliban, she will better Explain than infomation u got by international media who is in the hands of Politicians,

I came to know by a Malysian Doctors couple who were there in Afghanistan to provide medical Aid to people of Afghanistan.

The lady Doctors said that the images that they showing on international media are fake according to her because she said the Taliban they showed in this clips on internatioanl media are not as the local taliban she met, the way they make triban( a long cloth rolled on the head) . so it must be shouted somewhere else to show to world to justify the war crimes, to potray muslims as the worst.

i thank God i do not have my mind filled by this false information tha you got in your mind, my mind is clearer than yours,

Even suppose i agree with you for the sake of argument, if Usama bin Laden did attacked on September 11, does it mean you attacted a country because of one man? and kill 100's of thousand innocent people?

i am not here to support usama bin laden, he is not my friend neither my enemy becaue i have not met with him.

we call bush number one terrorist because he killed more innocent people than usama and sadam.

there were many professors from USA universites who said 9/11 was inside job,

how can 15 men could plan in caves in Afghanistan to fly 5 planes in USA to hitt on target,
there is list of proves that 9/11 was inside job, the way twin towers were collapsed, the fire man said when we reached to help people in ground floor, they observed that as someone is pushing the butttons to blast bombs, and most and amazing that they found the passport of the one who was controlling the plane after the buliding were colappsed, i think fire deparment shoud use that metirial to make their dress that could servive in this kind of big incident

at the end i will tell you t what i believe, if if if a muslim did that attack, Islam condems it , islam does not justfy to kill innocent people for any reason even islam does not allow to kill innocent people in the battle field. and the one who did that may not enter the Pradise but hell fire.

after 11 months of this attack 34000 americans reverted to Islam, The Quran was not available in the book shops because people wants to find does islam says to do such attack that media and usa goct blaimed to muslims, and they found that islam condems it and further they were immpressed by reading the holy scripture and Emraced Islam.

many of people got Quran to read to find mistakes to use it against muslims but when they read, they found the truth and entered Islam.

i tell you to read Quran and then tell me where Quran says to kill innocent people or anyother crimes that you and others have mentioned, surely you will not find.

http://www.islamtomorrow.com/

[Damsi]

I am no fan of the way islam treats women but sometimes it's also good to look in the mirror. First off I was in St lazarus church in Larnaca last week and I was a bit surprised to see metal plaques on the seats saying "men only" on one side of the church while there were a few seats marked for women on the other side, separated by some kind of altar thing. I believe Judaism has something similar.

Secondly, many nuns dress from head to toe in black and head covering is ordained in the bible (New Testament)

"Every woman praying or prophesying with her head uncovered disgraces her head, for it is the same as if she were shaven. For if a woman is not covered, let her be shaven. But if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head. A man indeed ought not to cover his head, because he is the image and glory of God. But woman is the glory of man. For man was not created for woman, but woman for man. This is why the woman ought to have a sign of authority over her head, because of the angels."
First Epistle to the Corinthians, chapter 11. verses 3-10.

And if you want to see how far Christianity has progressed have a look at this website.

http://christiandomesticdiscipline.com/Home.html

"A Christian Domestic Discipline marriage is one that is set up according to Biblical standards; that is, the husband is the authority in the household. The wife is submissive to her husband as is fit in the Lord and her husband loves her as himself. He has the ultimate authority in his household, but it is tempered with the knowledge that he must answer to God for his actions and decisions. He has the authority to spank his wife for punishment, but in real CDD marriages this is taken very seriously and usually happens only rarely. CDD is so much more than just spanking. It is the husband loving the wife enough to guide and teach her, and the wife loving the husband enough to follow his leadership."

And if you tell me these are just a few wacko Christian fundamentalists, and if you take away the religion altogether, yes western men don't make their wives wear hijabs or stone them for adultery or whatever it is they do in Islam, but a good percentage of them find other ways to mistreat and kill them if you see the statistics below.


US State Department
Domestic Homicides US
• On average, more than three women are murdered by their husbands or boyfriends in this country every day. In 2000, 1,247 women were killed by an intimate partner. The same year, 440 men were killed by an intimate partner.16
• Women are much more likely than men to be killed by an intimate partner. In 2000, intimate partner homicides accounted for 33.5 percent of the murders of women and less than four percent of the murders of men.17
• Pregnant and recently pregnant women are more likely to be victims of homicide than to die of any other cause18 , and evidence exists that a significant proportion of all female homicide victims are killed by their intimate partners.19
• Research suggests that injury related deaths, including homicide and suicide, account for approximately one-third of all maternal mortality cases, while medical reasons make up the rest. But, homicide is the leading cause of death overall for pregnant women,


Prevalence of Domestic Violence

* Estimates range from 960,000 incidents of violence against a current or former spouse, boyfriend, or girlfriend per year1 to three million women who are physically abused by their husband or boyfriend per year.2
* Nearly one-third of American women (31 percent) report being physically or sexually abused by a husband or boyfriend at some point in their lives, according to a 1998 Commonwealth Fund survey.4
* Nearly 25 percent of American women report being raped and/or physically assaulted by a current or former spouse, cohabiting partner, or date at some time in their lifetime.
* In the year 2001, more than half a million American women (588,490 women) were victims of nonfatal violence committed by an intimate partner.

Britain
Domestic violence currently claims the lives of around two women a week. One incident of domestic violence is reported to the police every minute.

[miltiades]

miltiades

thank you to share with us your knowledge from media,

do you think all you see and listen on the international media are 100 % correct?

i gave you a living Example, you can ask this lady who was taken hostage by Taliban, she will better Explain than infomation u got by international media who is in the hands of Politicians,

I came to know by a Malysian Doctors couple who were there in Afghanistan to provide medical Aid to people of Afghanistan.

The lady Doctors said that the images that they showing on international media are fake according to her because she said the Taliban they showed in this clips on internatioanl media are not as the local taliban she met, the way they make triban( a long cloth rolled on the head) . so it must be shouted somewhere else to show to world to justify the war crimes, to potray muslims as the worst.

i thank God i do not have my mind filled by this false information tha you got in your mind, my mind is clearer than yours,

Even suppose i agree with you for the sake of argument, if Usama bin Laden did attacked on September 11, does it mean you attacted a country because of this? and kill 100's of thousand innocent people?

there were many professors from USA universites who said 9/11 was inside job,

how can 15 men could plan in caves in Afghanistan to fly 5 planes in USA to hitt on target,
there is list of proves that 9/11 was inside job, the way twin towers were collapsed, the fire man said when we reached to help people in ground floor, they observed that as someone is pushing the butttons to blast bombs, and most and amazing that they found the passport of the one who was controlling the plane after the buliding were colappsed, i think fire deparment shoud use that metirial to make their dress that could servive in this kind of big incident

at the end i will tell you t what i believe, if if if a muslim did that attack, Islam condems it , islam does not justfy to kill innocent people for any reason even islam does not allow to kill innocent people in the battle field. and the one who did that may not enter the Pradise but hell fire.

after 11 months of this attack 34000 americans reverted to Islam, The Quran was not available in the book shops because people wants to find does islam says to do such attack that media and usa goct blaimed to muslims, and they found that islam condems it and further they were immpressed by reading the holy scripture and Emraced Islam.

many of people got Quran to read to find mistakes to use it against muslims but when they read, they found the truth and entered Islam.

i tell you to read Quran and then tell me where Quran says to kill innocent people or anyother crimes that you and others have mentioned, surely you will not find.

http://www.islamtomorrow.com/

I have told you before .You are one brainwashed individual who perhaps through no choice of your own , have been indoctrinated by your peers , parents etc and have had the part of your brain that logic is stored and cultivated permanently disengaged. Holy books were written by men , they themselves possessed by blind faith , and nearly 2000 years later we are expected to take such primitive ideology as the truth !!
You deny that Islamic fundamentalists were responsible for 9/11 , no doubt you also deny that the London bombers of July 7th were Islamic fundamentalists. Your religion is your prerogative , you have my utmost respect in continuing to practise it. The Christians , the largest by far religion in the world today have to a large extent made efforts to accommodate other faiths within their sphere , Saudi Arabia the leading Islamic nation has as yet to allow Christians or indeed other faiths the freedom to practise their faith. I'm convinced that the genuine religious people who practice their religion and are compassionate , forgiving , non violent and respectful to other faiths are in the majority , but nevertheless a substantial minority refuses to accord other faiths the respect that they demand for their own faith. I do not in any way subscribe to the primitive idea of a Creator.I respect peoples right to believe but so should they respect my right. Finally let me say that provided an individual can differentiate between good and evil and do what is good in the name of justice fairness and self respect then it matters not where he prays . The suicide bombers are a despicable example of barbarity and yet they are adorned by religious leaders and told that Paradise awaits them. These sad and misguided individuals who kill and maim indiscriminately , not stopping to consider that amongst their victims there maybe children , little boys and girls , mothers and fathers.Yet these barbarians detonate their killing machines in the knowledge that their satanic act is righteous. This young man are realities , the Taliban are monsters , savages who refuse to give peace a chance . They will be defeated.

[QAMERSLAND]

miltiades

once again, i feel sorry about yout judgement, you think i am brainwashed. if you mean that my brain has been washed with wisdom and logic than you are right. i am not form a religious family or i have naver attended any kind of islamic institute except that i learnt how to read Quran in childhood, and now all is my personal effort to learn about islam and comprative religion without having influnce of anyone.
but i will not pass any comments about you because i hate the diasease not the one who is suffering. i love all human being no matter where they come from.

i dont know what is your level, i have said that tell me what is wrong in islam and again and again you are telling me about some muslims who are not following the true islam,

you are giving your own observation without anylizing it that what you think is right may be not for others. what is modest for you may not be modest for someone else.

like in west a man and woman can hug each other kiss each other to strangers that is consider modest but if you go in india and see among the Indian christians, it is immodest, then who should decide?

only creator can decide what is modest and what is not because he is creator and know very well what is good and what is bad for us.

[zan]

"How do you define a terrorist?"

"Terrorism is the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government,
the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives." - US Federal Bureau of Investigation

"The United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan has told the BBC the US-led invasion of Iraq was an illegal act that contravened the UN charter. He said the decision to take action in Iraq should have been made by the Security Council, not unilaterally." ie it was a "unlawful use of force or violence" as defined by the FBI.

The UN Charter's core principles contained in Article 2(4) and Article 51 prohibit one nation from attacking another except in self-defense or with the authority of the U.N.

Self defence is defined as responding to an IMMINENT threat or attack. Imminent is defined as "about to occur".

Was Iraq about to attack the US imminently?

911 was not the reason for the invasion of Iraq because it had nothing to do with it. Even Bush said that.

BUSH: The terrorists attacked us and killed 3,000 of our citizens before we started the freedom agenda in the Middle East. They were …

QUESTION: What did Iraqi have to do with that?
BUSH: What did Iraq have to do with what?

QUESTION: The attacks upon the World Trade Center.

BUSH: Nothing. . . . .Except for it’s part of — and nobody’s ever suggested in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered the attack.

August 2006

So the question remains. By legal definition, is Bush a terrorist or not?

Brilliant

[zan]

I am no fan of the way islam treats women but sometimes it's also good to look in the mirror. First off I was in St lazarus church in Larnaca last week and I was a bit surprised to see metal plaques on the seats saying "men only" on one side of the church while there were a few seats marked for women on the other side, separated by some kind of altar thing. I believe Judaism has something similar.

Secondly, many nuns dress from head to toe in black and head covering is ordained in the bible (New Testament)

"Every woman praying or prophesying with her head uncovered disgraces her head, for it is the same as if she were shaven. For if a woman is not covered, let her be shaven. But if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head. A man indeed ought not to cover his head, because he is the image and glory of God. But woman is the glory of man. For man was not created for woman, but woman for man. This is why the woman ought to have a sign of authority over her head, because of the angels."
First Epistle to the Corinthians, chapter 11. verses 3-10.

And if you want to see how far Christianity has progressed have a look at this website.

http://christiandomesticdiscipline.com/Home.html

"A Christian Domestic Discipline marriage is one that is set up according to Biblical standards; that is, the husband is the authority in the household. The wife is submissive to her husband as is fit in the Lord and her husband loves her as himself. He has the ultimate authority in his household, but it is tempered with the knowledge that he must answer to God for his actions and decisions. He has the authority to spank his wife for punishment, but in real CDD marriages this is taken very seriously and usually happens only rarely. CDD is so much more than just spanking. It is the husband loving the wife enough to guide and teach her, and the wife loving the husband enough to follow his leadership."

And if you tell me these are just a few wacko Christian fundamentalists, and if you take away the religion altogether, yes western men don't make their wives wear hijabs or stone them for adultery or whatever it is they do in Islam, but a good percentage of them find other ways to mistreat and kill them if you see the statistics below.


US State Department
Domestic Homicides US
• On average, more than three women are murdered by their husbands or boyfriends in this country every day. In 2000, 1,247 women were killed by an intimate partner. The same year, 440 men were killed by an intimate partner.16
• Women are much more likely than men to be killed by an intimate partner. In 2000, intimate partner homicides accounted for 33.5 percent of the murders of women and less than four percent of the murders of men.17
• Pregnant and recently pregnant women are more likely to be victims of homicide than to die of any other cause18 , and evidence exists that a significant proportion of all female homicide victims are killed by their intimate partners.19
• Research suggests that injury related deaths, including homicide and suicide, account for approximately one-third of all maternal mortality cases, while medical reasons make up the rest. But, homicide is the leading cause of death overall for pregnant women,


Prevalence of Domestic Violence

* Estimates range from 960,000 incidents of violence against a current or former spouse, boyfriend, or girlfriend per year1 to three million women who are physically abused by their husband or boyfriend per year.2
* Nearly one-third of American women (31 percent) report being physically or sexually abused by a husband or boyfriend at some point in their lives, according to a 1998 Commonwealth Fund survey.4
* Nearly 25 percent of American women report being raped and/or physically assaulted by a current or former spouse, cohabiting partner, or date at some time in their lifetime.
* In the year 2001, more than half a million American women (588,490 women) were victims of nonfatal violence committed by an intimate partner.

Britain
Domestic violence currently claims the lives of around two women a week. One incident of domestic violence is reported to the police every minute.

Damsi you are becomming a hero of mine. A balanced and fair report every time. Bravo.

[Southerner]

I am no fan of the way islam treats women but sometimes it's also good to look in the mirror. First off I was in St lazarus church in Larnaca last week and I was a bit surprised to see metal plaques on the seats saying "men only" on one side of the church while there were a few seats marked for women on the other side, separated by some kind of altar thing. I believe Judaism has something similar.

Secondly, many nuns dress from head to toe in black and head covering is ordained in the bible (New Testament)

"Every woman praying or prophesying with her head uncovered disgraces her head, for it is the same as if she were shaven. For if a woman is not covered, let her be shaven. But if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head. A man indeed ought not to cover his head, because he is the image and glory of God. But woman is the glory of man. For man was not created for woman, but woman for man. This is why the woman ought to have a sign of authority over her head, because of the angels."
First Epistle to the Corinthians, chapter 11. verses 3-10.
And if you want to see how far Christianity has progressed have a look at this website.
http://christiandomesticdiscipline.com/Home.html
"A Christian Domestic Discipline marriage is one that is set up according to Biblical standards; that is, the husband is the authority in the household. The wife is submissive to her husband as is fit in the Lord and her husband loves her as himself. He has the ultimate authority in his household, but it is tempered with the knowledge that he must answer to God for his actions and decisions. He has the authority to spank his wife for punishment, but in real CDD marriages this is taken very seriously and usually happens only rarely. CDD is so much more than just spanking. It is the husband loving the wife enough to guide and teach her, and the wife loving the husband enough to follow his leadership."
And if you tell me these are just a few wacko Christian fundamentalists, and if you take away the religion altogether, yes western men don't make their wives wear hijabs or stone them for adultery or whatever it is they do in Islam, but a good percentage of them find other ways to mistreat and kill them if you see the statistics below.
US State Department
Domestic Homicides US
• On average, more than three women are murdered by their husbands or boyfriends in this country every day. In 2000, 1,247 women were killed by an intimate partner. The same year, 440 men were killed by an intimate partner.16
• Women are much more likely than men to be killed by an intimate partner. In 2000, intimate partner homicides accounted for 33.5 percent of the murders of women and less than four percent of the murders of men.17
• Pregnant and recently pregnant women are more likely to be victims of homicide than to die of any other cause18 , and evidence exists that a significant proportion of all female homicide victims are killed by their intimate partners.19
• Research suggests that injury related deaths, including homicide and suicide, account for approximately one-third of all maternal mortality cases, while medical reasons make up the rest. But, homicide is the leading cause of death overall for pregnant women,
Prevalence of Domestic Violence
* Estimates range from 960,000 incidents of violence against a current or former spouse, boyfriend, or girlfriend per year1 to three million women who are physically abused by their husband or boyfriend per year.2 * Nearly one-third of American women (31 percent) report being physically or sexually abused by a husband or boyfriend at some point in their lives, according to a 1998 Commonwealth Fund survey.4
* Nearly 25 percent of American women report being raped and/or physically assaulted by a current or former spouse, cohabiting partner, or date at some time in their lifetime.
* In the year 2001, more than half a million American women (588,490 women) were victims of nonfatal violence committed by an intimate partner.Britain
Domestic violence currently claims the lives of around two women a week. One incident of domestic violence is reported to the police every minute.

Damsi you are becomming a hero of mine. A balanced and fair report every time. Bravo.

What has this got to do with religious faith, where anywhere, does it say that any of this violence was carried out with the blessing of any current Christian leader other than off-shoot religions/sects of which there are many, Mormons used to have many wives, this practise is now no longer accepted.
Nuns dress/clothing varies from order to oreder.
The rest has nothing to do with religion and is a pathetic attempt to bolster up a pathetic backwards reilgion, none of the crimes/behavours were carried out on the instructions of the Christian church.
The Bali bombings for instance were carried out under the direct orders/encouragement of the local muslim leader, they were promised martyrdom and would be served by virgins in heaven etc etc.
According to QAMERSLAND all the muslims in the UK are not being taught according to the koran because women are not being allowed into integrated religious services alongside men.
Therefore I would say to QAMERSLAND and anyone else of his like, go and put your own religion in order before you start preaching to me

[zan]

I am no fan of the way islam treats women but sometimes it's also good to look in the mirror. First off I was in St lazarus church in Larnaca last week and I was a bit surprised to see metal plaques on the seats saying "men only" on one side of the church while there were a few seats marked for women on the other side, separated by some kind of altar thing. I believe Judaism has something similar.

Secondly, many nuns dress from head to toe in black and head covering is ordained in the bible (New Testament)

"Every woman praying or prophesying with her head uncovered disgraces her head, for it is the same as if she were shaven. For if a woman is not covered, let her be shaven. But if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head. A man indeed ought not to cover his head, because he is the image and glory of God. But woman is the glory of man. For man was not created for woman, but woman for man. This is why the woman ought to have a sign of authority over her head, because of the angels."
First Epistle to the Corinthians, chapter 11. verses 3-10.
And if you want to see how far Christianity has progressed have a look at this website.
http://christiandomesticdiscipline.com/Home.html
"A Christian Domestic Discipline marriage is one that is set up according to Biblical standards; that is, the husband is the authority in the household. The wife is submissive to her husband as is fit in the Lord and her husband loves her as himself. He has the ultimate authority in his household, but it is tempered with the knowledge that he must answer to God for his actions and decisions. He has the authority to spank his wife for punishment, but in real CDD marriages this is taken very seriously and usually happens only rarely. CDD is so much more than just spanking. It is the husband loving the wife enough to guide and teach her, and the wife loving the husband enough to follow his leadership."
And if you tell me these are just a few wacko Christian fundamentalists, and if you take away the religion altogether, yes western men don't make their wives wear hijabs or stone them for adultery or whatever it is they do in Islam, but a good percentage of them find other ways to mistreat and kill them if you see the statistics below.
US State Department
Domestic Homicides US
• On average, more than three women are murdered by their husbands or boyfriends in this country every day. In 2000, 1,247 women were killed by an intimate partner. The same year, 440 men were killed by an intimate partner.16
• Women are much more likely than men to be killed by an intimate partner. In 2000, intimate partner homicides accounted for 33.5 percent of the murders of women and less than four percent of the murders of men.17
• Pregnant and recently pregnant women are more likely to be victims of homicide than to die of any other cause18 , and evidence exists that a significant proportion of all female homicide victims are killed by their intimate partners.19
• Research suggests that injury related deaths, including homicide and suicide, account for approximately one-third of all maternal mortality cases, while medical reasons make up the rest. But, homicide is the leading cause of death overall for pregnant women,
Prevalence of Domestic Violence
* Estimates range from 960,000 incidents of violence against a current or former spouse, boyfriend, or girlfriend per year1 to three million women who are physically abused by their husband or boyfriend per year.2 * Nearly one-third of American women (31 percent) report being physically or sexually abused by a husband or boyfriend at some point in their lives, according to a 1998 Commonwealth Fund survey.4
* Nearly 25 percent of American women report being raped and/or physically assaulted by a current or former spouse, cohabiting partner, or date at some time in their lifetime.
* In the year 2001, more than half a million American women (588,490 women) were victims of nonfatal violence committed by an intimate partner.Britain
Domestic violence currently claims the lives of around two women a week. One incident of domestic violence is reported to the police every minute.

Damsi you are becomming a hero of mine. A balanced and fair report every time. Bravo.

What has this got to do with religious faith, where anywhere, does it say that any of this violence was carried out with the blessing of any current Christian leader other than off-shoot religions/sects of which there are many, Mormons used to have many wives, this practise is now no longer accepted.
Nuns dress/clothing varies from order to oreder.
The rest has nothing to do with religion and is a pathetic attempt to bolster up a pathetic backwards reilgion, none of the crimes/behavours were carried out on the instructions of the Christian church.
The Bali bombings for instance were carried out under the direct orders/encouragement of the local muslim leader, they were promised martyrdom and would be served by virgins in heaven etc etc.
According to QAMERSLAND all the muslims in the UK are not being taught according to the koran because women are not being allowed into integrated religious services alongside men.
Therefore I would say to QAMERSLAND and anyone else of his like, go and put your own religion in order before you start preaching to me

The fact that there seems to be a war going on with Christians and Muslims do not tell you that the orders either come from a Christian or a Muslim????? The point is that some of those countries the leaders are in fact Muslim leaders as well