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Postby Me Ed » Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:00 pm

Malapapa wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Whilst I don't necessarily agree with this thread ...

Talat will never apologise because Turkey's strategy is to present the TCs as victims in the misguided hope that the world will acknowledge this and grant recognition to a TC state.


As a strategy, it's laughable. And Turkey's strategy coincides exactly with that of BirKibrisli; present the TCs as nothing other than victims - with no responsibility for their own actions, past or present - in the misguided hope that free Cypriots will acknowledge this and grant recognition to a TC state.

Turkey and BirKibrisli - arse and breeches.

I wouldn't take the likes of BirKibrisli seriously, especially when he doesn't merely stop at the TCs and makes the preposterous assertion that those poor settlers are victims too.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:35 pm

boomerang wrote:bir can't understand or maybe unable to connect the dots...for plan to be accepted by turkey, turkey needs to cement and expand on her gains...otherwise she can endorse democracy, human rights and the rule of law today and get over and done with it...but this is not happening is it bir?...

turkey made sure that any plan put forward that does not suit her will not get through...via the settlers and via influence...

the roc should be negotiating with turkey directly, and one she will, when it will turkey's best interest...today it doen't suit turkey, thats all...


Turkey will never negotiate directly with the RoC...You are right,it suits Turkey now to preserve the status quo...Till the conditions are right to annex the trnc...That is why you have to force Turkey's hand by agreeing to a deal which will make the TCs free to express their will...Otherwise goodbye to 37% of Cyprus...This is what Bananiot is trying to tell you...You can't do much worse than ignore his warnings... :(
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:40 pm

Malapapa wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Whilst I don't necessarily agree with this thread ...

Talat will never apologise because Turkey's strategy is to present the TCs as victims in the misguided hope that the world will acknowledge this and grant recognition to a TC state.


As a strategy, it's laughable. And Turkey's strategy coincides exactly with that of BirKibrisli; present the TCs as nothing other than victims - with no responsibility for their own actions, past or present - in the misguided hope that free Cypriots will acknowledge this and grant recognition to a TC state.

Turkey and BirKibrisli - arse and breeches.


Do you have a beter idea for removing Turkey from Cyprus?
Lets hear it...
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Postby Malapapa » Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:46 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Whilst I don't necessarily agree with this thread ...

Talat will never apologise because Turkey's strategy is to present the TCs as victims in the misguided hope that the world will acknowledge this and grant recognition to a TC state.


As a strategy, it's laughable. And Turkey's strategy coincides exactly with that of BirKibrisli; present the TCs as nothing other than victims - with no responsibility for their own actions, past or present - in the misguided hope that free Cypriots will acknowledge this and grant recognition to a TC state.

Turkey and BirKibrisli - arse and breeches.


Do you have a beter idea for removing Turkey from Cyprus?
Lets hear it...


An army marches on its stomach. The only way to remove it is to starve it. Now join us in the struggle or starve with it.
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Postby boomerang » Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:49 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
boomerang wrote:bir can't understand or maybe unable to connect the dots...for plan to be accepted by turkey, turkey needs to cement and expand on her gains...otherwise she can endorse democracy, human rights and the rule of law today and get over and done with it...but this is not happening is it bir?...

turkey made sure that any plan put forward that does not suit her will not get through...via the settlers and via influence...

the roc should be negotiating with turkey directly, and one she will, when it will turkey's best interest...today it doen't suit turkey, thats all...


Turkey will never negotiate directly with the RoC...You are right,it suits Turkey now to preserve the status quo...Till the conditions are right to annex the trnc...That is why you have to force Turkey's hand by agreeing to a deal which will make the TCs free to express their will...Otherwise goodbye to 37% of Cyprus...This is what Bananiot is trying to tell you...You can't do much worse than ignore his warnings... :(


bir turkey will only accept a plan that will consolidate and expand her gains...how the hell can the roc force turkey otherwise?...

what you are saying is accept a plan, hang yourself and then later the cavarly, tcs, will gallop in...this ain't gonna happen...when push comes to shove you are outnumbered for starters...secondly a plan will not and cannot be altrered down the track...

here is an idea...why don't the tcs start demanding turkey leaves and roc will take care of them?...no?...to traumatised?...

come on man, you are pissing in the wind thinking the roc can force anything on turkey...the only pushing is to work on turkey via her eu aspirations and constant embargoes, seeing the tcs are well and trully comfortable in their own little comfort zone...

the funny thing bir, if annexation came about tomorrow, the tcs will be moving south and happily accepting a unitary state...figure this one out...

ps...turkey's plan is not annexation or recognition, it's about controlling the whole island...
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:49 pm

Malapapa wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Whilst I don't necessarily agree with this thread ...

Talat will never apologise because Turkey's strategy is to present the TCs as victims in the misguided hope that the world will acknowledge this and grant recognition to a TC state.


As a strategy, it's laughable. And Turkey's strategy coincides exactly with that of BirKibrisli; present the TCs as nothing other than victims - with no responsibility for their own actions, past or present - in the misguided hope that free Cypriots will acknowledge this and grant recognition to a TC state.

Turkey and BirKibrisli - arse and breeches.


Do you have a beter idea for removing Turkey from Cyprus?
Lets hear it...


An army marches on its stomach. The only way to remove it is to starve it. Now join us in the struggle or starve with it.


Your are talking bullshit as usual, try proposing something that is possible, 36 years tells you no one is starving.
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Postby Malapapa » Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:58 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Whilst I don't necessarily agree with this thread ...

Talat will never apologise because Turkey's strategy is to present the TCs as victims in the misguided hope that the world will acknowledge this and grant recognition to a TC state.


As a strategy, it's laughable. And Turkey's strategy coincides exactly with that of BirKibrisli; present the TCs as nothing other than victims - with no responsibility for their own actions, past or present - in the misguided hope that free Cypriots will acknowledge this and grant recognition to a TC state.

Turkey and BirKibrisli - arse and breeches.


Do you have a beter idea for removing Turkey from Cyprus?
Lets hear it...


An army marches on its stomach. The only way to remove it is to starve it. Now join us in the struggle or starve with it.


Your are talking bullshit as usual, try proposing something that is possible, 36 years tells you no one is starving.


The Turkish Reich must fall before Cyprus can be free.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:00 pm

Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Whilst I don't necessarily agree with this thread ...

Talat will never apologise because Turkey's strategy is to present the TCs as victims in the misguided hope that the world will acknowledge this and grant recognition to a TC state.


As a strategy, it's laughable. And Turkey's strategy coincides exactly with that of BirKibrisli; present the TCs as nothing other than victims - with no responsibility for their own actions, past or present - in the misguided hope that free Cypriots will acknowledge this and grant recognition to a TC state.

Turkey and BirKibrisli - arse and breeches.


Do you have a beter idea for removing Turkey from Cyprus?
Lets hear it...


An army marches on its stomach. The only way to remove it is to starve it. Now join us in the struggle or starve with it.


Your are talking bullshit as usual, try proposing something that is possible, 36 years tells you no one is starving.


The Turkish Reich must fall before Cyprus can be free.


You can only achieve this through getting the TCs on your side otherwise you dont stand a chance.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:12 pm

Malapapa wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Whilst I don't necessarily agree with this thread ...

Talat will never apologise because Turkey's strategy is to present the TCs as victims in the misguided hope that the world will acknowledge this and grant recognition to a TC state.


As a strategy, it's laughable. And Turkey's strategy coincides exactly with that of BirKibrisli; present the TCs as nothing other than victims - with no responsibility for their own actions, past or present - in the misguided hope that free Cypriots will acknowledge this and grant recognition to a TC state.

Turkey and BirKibrisli - arse and breeches.


Do you have a beter idea for removing Turkey from Cyprus?
Lets hear it...


An army marches on its stomach. The only way to remove it is to starve it. Now join us in the struggle or starve with it.


You are going to starve Turkey out of Cyprus...???
Let me have a good laugh first... :lol: :lol: :lol:

That's better...Now would you right to elaborate on that? I promise to keep a straight face... :wink:
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:16 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:Till the conditions are right to annex the trnc...

That's based on your uneducated assumption that Turkey has such an option...

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle31.htm

That’s why I have no respect for what you or Bananiot have to say because your input is mostly based on scaremongering tactics to fool the unaware. :roll:
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