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VP, no one has ever said that you are not human beings like everybody else. And you have every right to live and prosper in a society that is peaceful and just. No one is denying that. You are also invited to join the rest of Cypriot society and share the whole Island as you have just as much right to it as any other Cypriot.

As far as being dominated by Greek speaking Cypriots I disagree. In the 1960's constitution which is currently innactive, there are safeguards in place that you are represented according to the percentage of your population. Upon unification I hope that these measures are implemented to ensure you have equal rights, and representation as per the population.

I don't understand your last sentence, but there are many options that we could look at. I am sure

I will ask once again how long do you think it will be before GCs 80% start to objecting to the 1960 agreements giving TCs to many privlidges and regurgitating another Akritas plan 2?? would GCs be willing to sign an undertaking to accept that they will not challenge any of the articles in the 1960 agreements and if they at anytime try to remove or abuse safeguards that Cyprus will be divided forever.

Have you actually realized that in this day and age the TCs are not even the largest minority anymore and the way things are going pretty soon even the British ex-pats will surpass you in number? And you’re still mumbling about the 1960’s agreements?

[miltiades]

VP , the voice of the chief crap spreader has spoken again.>>>>

"""""The pseudo "RoC" is so dear to GCs now do you rknow why? because it has been cleansed of the TC factor, throw that back in and GCs will run straight to the EU asking for amendments claiming unfair privilidges ask Pirates. Time you wok up to the reality of the situation and came down to earth form which ever cloud it is you around...havada bulut. """""

Not only is the RoC illegal by his narrow minded and utterly illogical , if they exist that is , braincells , it is now a
a PSEUDO republic. !!! Look man if you call a fool intelligent and smart enough times the fool will believe you, and this man has the audacity to call a state that is recognised world wide a Pseudo state , and wait for it , the occupied part of Cyprus that has on its soil 40 thousand foreign troops , has no identity to call its own and on top of that NO NATION ON EARTH RECOGNISES as the only legit Cyprus !!! This individual would like us to believe that the RoC is a PSEUDO state , and that he is living in a fools paradise !!!!

Carry on posting your usual rubbish some one might believe you , Zan perhaps !!!

[zan]

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VP, no one has ever said that you are not human beings like everybody else. And you have every right to live and prosper in a society that is peaceful and just. No one is denying that. You are also invited to join the rest of Cypriot society and share the whole Island as you have just as much right to it as any other Cypriot.

As far as being dominated by Greek speaking Cypriots I disagree. In the 1960's constitution which is currently innactive, there are safeguards in place that you are represented according to the percentage of your population. Upon unification I hope that these measures are implemented to ensure you have equal rights, and representation as per the population.

I don't understand your last sentence, but there are many options that we could look at. I am sure

I will ask once again how long do you think it will be before GCs 80% start to objecting to the 1960 agreements giving TCs to many privlidges and regurgitating another Akritas plan 2?? would GCs be willing to sign an undertaking to accept that they will not challenge any of the articles in the 1960 agreements and if they at anytime try to remove or abuse safeguards that Cyprus will be divided forever.

Have you actually realized that in this day and age the TCs are not even the largest minority anymore and the way things are going pretty soon even the British ex-pats will surpass you in number? And you’re still mumbling about the 1960’s agreements?

It does not matter one iota what number of TC are left on the island. Even if just one exists then they are part owner of Cyprus. It is our island as well GR and this new line of attack to make us seem as if we are just visitors will not work. These are the tricks we need protecting against and for those that keep saying we have nothing to fear you are a prime example of what we have been saying all along. You seem to not only think that we are not true Cypriots and that the island is Greek but you also think the TCs and the Turks are not evolved enough for you. Well from one ape to another Whoooooowhooowhwooo do youooouooouoo think youhoohoohoo are?

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VP , the voice of the chief crap spreader has spoken again.>>>>

"""""The pseudo "RoC" is so dear to GCs now do you rknow why? because it has been cleansed of the TC factor, throw that back in and GCs will run straight to the EU asking for amendments claiming unfair privilidges ask Pirates. Time you wok up to the reality of the situation and came down to earth form which ever cloud it is you around...havada bulut. """""

Not only is the RoC illegal by his narrow minded and utterly illogical , if they exist that is , braincells , it is now a
a PSEUDO republic. !!! Look man if you call a fool intelligent and smart enough times the fool will believe you, and this man has the audacity to call a state that is recognised world wide a Pseudo state , and wait for it , the occupied part of Cyprus that has on its soil 40 thousand foreign troops , has no identity to call its own and on top of that NO NATION ON EARTH RECOGNISES as the only legit Cyprus !!! This individual would like us to believe that the RoC is a PSEUDO state , and that he is living in a fools paradise !!!!

Carry on posting your usual rubbish some one might believe you , Zan perhaps !!!

Look shit mouth...this is my viewpoint and I am allowed to express it, open your big lug holes and listen up hello Turkey and the TRNC do not recognize the "RoC" you have your heart missing the TCs end of story get over it moron.

[miltiades]

The T/Cs are very much a part of Cyprus , and Cyprus is very much the land of the T/Cs . The constant reference to Cypru's long Hellenic influenced history does not do much to inspire reconciliation amongst our people. Cyprus belongs to Bir and Kikapu and Kifeas and Piratis and to all those Cypriots who put the interests of our island in front of all else. Our T/C compatriots have as much right to call this island their own as we the G/Cs have .Our island is not Greek and is not Turkish and neither will it become British , Polish , Russian or any of the other nationalities currently residing in Cyprus. It will for ever be Cyprus not bloody North OR South .

[miltiades]

VP WROTE:
"""you have your heart missing the TCs end of story get over it moron. """ ?????????? WTF ???

I bet you tell , who ever wants to listen , that you were BRITISH EDUCATED !!!
Care to translate the above example of English pigeon language to us , it makes no bloody sense mate , try it in Turkish , or is your Turkish even more "pigeon " than your English ?? Almost forgot , You are a team and the last post was obviously from a a junior member .

[zan]

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VP WROTE:
"""you have your heart missing the TCs end of story get over it moron. """ ?????????? WTF ???

I bet you tell , who ever wants to listen , that you were BRITISH EDUCATED !!!
Care to translate the above example of English pigeon language to us , it makes no bloody sense mate , try it in Turkish , or is your Turkish even more "pigeon " than your English ?? Almost forgot , You are a team and the last post was obviously from a a junior member .

Your beloved "RoC" has a missing factor the TC community, this is like having your heart missing, got it now?

[miltiades]

VP WROTE:
"""you have your heart missing the TCs end of story get over it moron. """ ?????????? WTF ???

I bet you tell , who ever wants to listen , that you were BRITISH EDUCATED !!!
Care to translate the above example of English pigeon language to us , it makes no bloody sense mate , try it in Turkish , or is your Turkish even more "pigeon " than your English ?? Almost forgot , You are a team and the last post was obviously from a a junior member .

Your beloved "RoC" has a missing factor the TC community, this is like having your heart missing, got it now?

The RoC IS YOUR REPUBLIC TOO , THE "TRNC" is a pseudo state and you know what constitutes a true Republic ?? Legal status the world over , legal passports the world over , legal currency the world over and membership of the most respected institutions , this is the criteria of legal status not your inverted commas syndrome adapted by Turkey and the world sees Turkey as an occupying power.These are indisputable facts and only hard headed individuals will persist in calling the RoC as illegal !!!!!

The T/Cs are an integral part of Cyprus , it is your island just as it is mine , only you are supporting the break up of our nation and the continuation of faer of conflict some time in the future. Bir is a T/C and like him the are thousands who see Cyprus as united nation as the only option.Bir was born in Cyprus and suffered the consequences of conflict but he is not bitter and neither does he want his island to be divided were born in the UK , suffered no hardship during the conflict years , but have filled your brain with so much hatred and malicious ideas that are poisoning your immediate ability to think reasonably .Off all posters on this forum you are by far the most contagious individual , Zan is a perfect example who having met you has become your understudy.
I respect your right to express your views regardless how full of hatred they might be but I reserve the right to expose those views as the views of a foreigner not a T/C and a shortsighted one too , as well as the biggest bigot and racist on this forum.On your own admission you left the UK so that your children will be amongst their "own people " You detest the idea that your children may have to mix with G/C children and may have to put up with listening to the Greek language. In short my dear , you were a looser in the UK and you are an even bigger looser in Cyprus having s sold your soul to the Turkish Army.

[zan]

VP WROTE:
"""you have your heart missing the TCs end of story get over it moron. """ ?????????? WTF ???

I bet you tell , who ever wants to listen , that you were BRITISH EDUCATED !!!
Care to translate the above example of English pigeon language to us , it makes no bloody sense mate , try it in Turkish , or is your Turkish even more "pigeon " than your English ?? Almost forgot , You are a team and the last post was obviously from a a junior member .

Your beloved "RoC" has a missing factor the TC community, this is like having your heart missing, got it now?

The RoC IS YOUR REPUBLIC TOO , THE "TRNC" is a pseudo state and you know what constitutes a true Republic ?? Legal status the world over , legal passports the world over , legal currency the world over and membership of the most respected institutions , this is the criteria of legal status not your inverted commas syndrome adapted by Turkey and the world sees Turkey as an occupying power.These are indisputable facts and only hard headed individuals will persist in calling the RoC as illegal !!!!!

The T/Cs are an integral part of Cyprus , it is your island just as it is mine , only you are supporting the break up of our nation and the continuation of faer of conflict some time in the future. Bir is a T/C and like him the are thousands who see Cyprus as united nation as the only option.Bir was born in Cyprus and suffered the consequences of conflict but he is not bitter and neither does he want his island to be divided were born in the UK , suffered no hardship during the conflict years , but have filled your brain with so much hatred and malicious ideas that are poisoning your immediate ability to think reasonably .Off all posters on this forum you are by far the most contagious individual , Zan is a perfect example who having met you has become your understudy.
I respect your right to express your views regardless how full of hatred they might be but I reserve the right to expose those views as the views of a foreigner not a T/C and a shortsighted one too , as well as the biggest bigot and racist on this forum.On your own admission you left the UK so that your children will be amongst their "own people " You detest the idea that your children may have to mix with G/C children and may have to put up with listening to the Greek language. In short my dear , you were a looser in the UK and you are an even bigger looser in Cyprus having s sold your soul to the Turkish Army.

Persistent little shite aren't you. I did say to VP when we met that you lot are trying to lump us together in order to try and dismiss both of us at once and it turns out I was right. My sentiments have not changed from day one Miltiades and well you know it. Just because you have had a nudge from your propaganda machine that this line of attack would be a good idea does not make it so.


I realise it is hard to see through the bottom of a glass but VP and I are individuals and I would not try in influence the way he thinks any more than he would me. You on the other hand seem content n trying to sell us a faulty product that has somehow slipped by the quality controllers. The "RoC" is nothing but a pseudo state that never should have been allowed in any organisation. We have recently been asked to accept the Zurich agreement as a form of solution. I think you agreed that that should happen. Under that agreement the Cyprus Republic should not be run without the presents of tithe TCs. Every law that has been passed since 63 has been an illegal one. Every decision made without the presence of the TC has been an illegal one. Every election ever minister and most importantly every president. You do not exist without us. You have tried to use Turkey as the excuse that we are under siege but the only siege we have been put under is by you. I am here to tell you that as a TC I do not recognise your government. They are not my government and never will be. You have become part of Greece and that too has contravened the Zurich agreement. Because you have done this by stealth and are making the right noises to make the world believe that this is not so makes not a blind bit of difference. You are a conman of the worst kind and a Cypriot you are not. The party line that you tow is there for all to see. You point to one thing that the "RoC" has done legally since 63. You want us to talk and consider unification when you persist in your illegalities in a flippant and sadistic way because you managed to con your way into the EU. I have said this more than once but I think that it was the EU that conned you. You have had your wings clipped now and the EU are looking at ways in which they can do the same for us. The US are looking for a way in which they can do the same for us and it is just a matter of time. They are giving you the chance to come clean and give us the rights we deserve and demand. The rights we will continue to demand.

Give it up. You have not sold a single faulty product. Those that are on your side have already bought into your con trick and are just to embarrass to say anything. The act of recognising you as an entity is illegal with the confines of the Zurich agreement. Just because we are first made to suffer the perils of ethnic cleansing and murder, then we are faced with an unjust decision by a group that had no real idea about the Cyprus conflict because of the propaganda by you lot and the incompetence by us lot does not mean we are about to lay down and be shafted by you again. The fight for our freedom and rights will go on as long as it takes and unless you see that then everything we want will just happen automatically.