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Are TCs joint owners of 'TRNC'

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Are TCs joint owners of 'TRNC'

Yes - they joint own it
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No -Turkey owns it totally
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Total votes : 25

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:47 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Birkibrisli wrote:
humanist wrote:Sadly true :cry: :cry: :cry: Talking of partitionists, haven't seen of VP, Zan, Big_Turk and the rest of them


You mean bigOz,I guess dear humanist....Bg_Turk has not appeared in this forum for some time now....I wonder if he is banned??? (admin?)...

As for Vp and Zan and bigOz...I guess they agree with me and Pyros that the best way forward is to go back to the 1960 consititution... :wink: :lol: :lol:


Hi Bir , but of course we should stop and think , why have another AP or whatever the new secretary's initials are now , lets go back to the Plan , the agreement that was signed by all , the Zurich agreements. I will vote for it any time.

ps . Have you wondered Bir how great minds think alike ?!!!


What makes you think it will work second time around?


Actually its being working for 47 years.

Why don't you adopt it too, after all you already have much more than just separate municipalities.
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Postby humanist » Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:48 pm

Good to see your alive and breathing VP, after all you are a human being and that is a good thing :)
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:14 am

humanist wrote:Good to see your alive and breathing VP, after all you are a human being and that is a good thing :)


Glad you noticed, we like everyone else want to live in peace and prosperity without being dominated by GCs we have learned our lessons well from the passed and do not want to go down that route ever again, there is a saying "süten yanan üfleyerek içer" stright translation is once burnt by milk you tend to blow before you drink or the equivelent in English would be once bitten twice shy.

People have to realize that these TCs have to be taken seriously and we cannot just push them to one side, if we as the recognized part of Cyprus do not take the lead to use all our resources in proving and showing TCs that their future lays with us then we have no chance of ever finding a solution. It appears that due to the inflexibility of both sides and the unwillingness to compromise the current stalemate will continue and the only options left will be Recognition vs Swing in Power.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:17 am

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humanist wrote:Sadly true :cry: :cry: :cry: Talking of partitionists, haven't seen of VP, Zan, Big_Turk and the rest of them


You mean bigOz,I guess dear humanist....Bg_Turk has not appeared in this forum for some time now....I wonder if he is banned??? (admin?)...

As for Vp and Zan and bigOz...I guess they agree with me and Pyros that the best way forward is to go back to the 1960 consititution... :wink: :lol: :lol:


Hi Bir , but of course we should stop and think , why have another AP or whatever the new secretary's initials are now , lets go back to the Plan , the agreement that was signed by all , the Zurich agreements. I will vote for it any time.

ps . Have you wondered Bir how great minds think alike ?!!!


Hello,dear miltiades...As you say this is the only agreeement ever we have been able to sign as Cypriots in 10,000 years...If we are serious about a solution nothing is stopping us from embrasing it, for real this time....But you will find that there are too many inside and outside interests which have grown rich or powerful from the status quo.It suits them to keep things this way...And us Cypriots have not become aware enough to tell them all to go and take a collective jump...Wasn't it Nero who played the lute or flute or whatever it was,while Rome burned?...We should all chip in and send Tpapa and Talat two lutes,me thinks... :( :(
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:23 am

Birkibrisli wrote:
miltiades wrote:
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humanist wrote:Sadly true :cry: :cry: :cry: Talking of partitionists, haven't seen of VP, Zan, Big_Turk and the rest of them


You mean bigOz,I guess dear humanist....Bg_Turk has not appeared in this forum for some time now....I wonder if he is banned??? (admin?)...

As for Vp and Zan and bigOz...I guess they agree with me and Pyros that the best way forward is to go back to the 1960 consititution... :wink: :lol: :lol:


Hi Bir , but of course we should stop and think , why have another AP or whatever the new secretary's initials are now , lets go back to the Plan , the agreement that was signed by all , the Zurich agreements. I will vote for it any time.

ps . Have you wondered Bir how great minds think alike ?!!!


Hello,dear miltiades...As you say this is the only agreeement ever we have been able to sign as Cypriots in 10,000 years...If we are serious about a solution nothing is stopping us from embrasing it, for real this time....But you will find that there are too many inside and outside interests which have grown rich or powerful from the status quo.It suits them to keep things this way...And us Cypriots have not become aware enough to tell them all to go and take a collective jump...Wasn't it Nero who played the lute or flute or whatever it was,while Rome burned?...We should all chip in and send Tpapa and Talat two lutes,me thinks... :( :(


You really do live in lala land, how long do you think it would take GCs to go to the EU and have the 1960 agreements changes to suit themselves, getting rid of any veto rights? a week 2 months how long?? it didnt work back then and would not work today.
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Postby miltiades » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:29 am

Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:Good to see your alive and breathing VP, after all you are a human being and that is a good thing :)


Glad you noticed, we like everyone else want to live in peace and prosperity without being dominated by GCs we have learned our lessons well from the passed and do not want to go down that route ever again, there is a saying "süten yanan üfleyerek içer" stright translation is once burnt by milk you tend to blow before you drink or the equivelent in English would be once bitten twice shy.

People have to realize that these TCs have to be taken seriously and we cannot just push them to one side, if we as the recognized part of Cyprus do not take the lead to use all our resources in proving and showing TCs that their future lays with us then we have no chance of ever finding a solution. It appears that due to the inflexibility of both sides and the unwillingness to compromise the current stalemate will continue and the only options left will be Recognition vs Swing in Power.


Glad to see a note of "reconciliation " creeping in to your posts.
You appear to be obsessed by "G/C " domination , what exactly do you mean by domination. The fact that the majority of Cypriots are G/Cs can not be challenged or amended , does not mean that the law will treat the G/Cs differently than the T/Cs any more than the British law would treat me , a tiny minority , differently from the English . There are in Cyprus perhaps as many Europeans , Russians etc as there are T/Cs if not more in fact. In years to come demographics will take a new meaning but the law of the land with its EU connection will be supreme and accountable to the EU legal directives. I frankly can not understand a man born in the UK , returning to Cyprus as an adult and yet totaly obsessed with G/C domination. I would examine my self if I were you , were you bullied in England at school for instance ?
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:34 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Birkibrisli wrote:
miltiades wrote:
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humanist wrote:Sadly true :cry: :cry: :cry: Talking of partitionists, haven't seen of VP, Zan, Big_Turk and the rest of them


You mean bigOz,I guess dear humanist....Bg_Turk has not appeared in this forum for some time now....I wonder if he is banned??? (admin?)...

As for Vp and Zan and bigOz...I guess they agree with me and Pyros that the best way forward is to go back to the 1960 consititution... :wink: :lol: :lol:


Hi Bir , but of course we should stop and think , why have another AP or whatever the new secretary's initials are now , lets go back to the Plan , the agreement that was signed by all , the Zurich agreements. I will vote for it any time.

ps . Have you wondered Bir how great minds think alike ?!!!


Hello,dear miltiades...As you say this is the only agreeement ever we have been able to sign as Cypriots in 10,000 years...If we are serious about a solution nothing is stopping us from embrasing it, for real this time....But you will find that there are too many inside and outside interests which have grown rich or powerful from the status quo.It suits them to keep things this way...And us Cypriots have not become aware enough to tell them all to go and take a collective jump...Wasn't it Nero who played the lute or flute or whatever it was,while Rome burned?...We should all chip in and send Tpapa and Talat two lutes,me thinks... :( :(


You really do live in lala land, how long do you think it would take GCs to go to the EU and have the 1960 agreements changes to suit themselves, getting rid of any veto rights? a week 2 months how long?? it didnt work back then and would not work today.


Of course it will not work if you approach it with as much suspicion and mistrust as you are doing,VP...If we want we can get the EU to come to the party as well...and agree to make an exception for Cyprus....But you know the old story....The asked the bride to dance but she refused saying the space was a bit tight (yerim dar),they made some more room and asked her again,this time she said her sleeve was too tight (yenim dar)...You are that bride VP...you will never dance... :wink: :( :(
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:44 am

miltiades wrote:
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humanist wrote:Good to see your alive and breathing VP, after all you are a human being and that is a good thing :)


Glad you noticed, we like everyone else want to live in peace and prosperity without being dominated by GCs we have learned our lessons well from the passed and do not want to go down that route ever again, there is a saying "süten yanan üfleyerek içer" stright translation is once burnt by milk you tend to blow before you drink or the equivelent in English would be once bitten twice shy.

People have to realize that these TCs have to be taken seriously and we cannot just push them to one side, if we as the recognized part of Cyprus do not take the lead to use all our resources in proving and showing TCs that their future lays with us then we have no chance of ever finding a solution. It appears that due to the inflexibility of both sides and the unwillingness to compromise the current stalemate will continue and the only options left will be Recognition vs Swing in Power.


Glad to see a note of "reconciliation " creeping in to your posts.
You appear to be obsessed by "G/C " domination , what exactly do you mean by domination. The fact that the majority of Cypriots are G/Cs can not be challenged or amended , does not mean that the law will treat the G/Cs differently than the T/Cs any more than the British law would treat me , a tiny minority , differently from the English . There are in Cyprus perhaps as many Europeans , Russians etc as there are T/Cs if not more in fact. In years to come demographics will take a new meaning but the law of the land with its EU connection will be supreme and accountable to the EU legal directives. I frankly can not understand a man born in the UK , returning to Cyprus as an adult and yet totaly obsessed with G/C domination. I would examine my self if I were you , were you bullied in England at school for instance ?


You have only just noticed my real intentions as you blind to the fact and choose to ignore the real content of my posts which is very much your own loss not mine but lets not go there and Ill just add I had a great childhood in the UK but my heart was always in Cyprus this is home for me not the UK as I am not English and that country belongs to the English you just have gained a right to live there under their laws but you will never be English however much Cypriot families want to think they are.

I as TC want a say in my own future, when 80% of the electorate are GCs what chance do I have? GCs have no political maturity and would rather vote in the worst GC candidates than see the best TCs in office. I always give this examples as it appears appropriate GCs cannot even vote in a TC singer or song to send to the Eurovision as they do not want us to be seen representing Cyprus anywhere, when will you wake up to this fact that GCs cannot stomach us...this is just one very basic example can you imagine this multiplied up into serious issues such as running the country we would stand no chance and be at the mercy of a GC leadership. This is why we need safeguards to ensure this dominance factor is not allowed and that when er feel threatened or forced to accept decisions that will effect our community negative we can say no.
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Postby T_C » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:53 am

İ agree with you VP. İve just been eating Kellogs cornflakes and in the ingredients bit of the box theres flags of each country with the ingredients written in that countries language. İn the part with Greek writing theres 2 flags the Greek flag and the RoC flag. GRRRRRRRR.... :evil: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:00 am

turkish_cypriot wrote:İ agree with you VP. İve just been eating Kellogs cornflakes and in the ingredients bit of the box theres flags of each country with the ingredients written in that countries language. İn the part with Greek writing theres 2 flags the Greek flag and the RoC flag. GRRRRRRRR.... :evil: :lol: :lol:


Hi T_C,

How come you only write very short posts, since you arrived in the "TRNC".?

It's not like you to be a "one liner".

Hope all is well.
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