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[Murataga]

How it should exist today is given explicitly by the U.N. :
Resolution 750 (April 1992) (which has been reaffirmed annually since then)-

“Reaffirms the position set out in resolutions 649 (1990) of March 12 1990 and 716 (1991) October 11 1991 that a Cyprus settlement must be based on a State of Cyprus with a single sovereignty and international personality and a single citizenship, with its independence and territorial integrity safeguarded, and comprising two politically equal communities as defined in Paragraph 11 of Secretary-General’s report in a bi-communal and bi-zonal federation, and that such a settlement must exclude union in whole or in part with any other country or any form of partition or secession;”

Thanks for the quote. Have you noticed that your community has been in a clear violation of this resolution for the last 16 years?

this is an excellent point that keeps getting made. My TC friends keep quoting parts of UN resolutions and the ROC constitution to prove some of their points without consideration to the huge contradictions they are making.

Even if i was an indepedant bystander I'd consider this schizophrenic to say the least.

I'm eagerly anticipating replies from the TC camp...

And still they ignore GR

Wow… nice to see that my "fan club" is getting more crowded by the day. I was exchanging posts with Piratis when you (Get Real! and Piratis` officially designated suck-up DT) jumped in to divert the subject. I am only one person and can deal with only a number of you at a time. Anyway... in recognition of your enthusiasm (!), I am going to cut you guys a slack and give you a free bee for this time, so here goes:

It was asked if I am aware of my community`s violation of the Resolution which states: RoC, which by definition should be a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with politically equal communities, should exclude any kind of partition or secession. The answer to your question is not even a matter of debate, so I`ll give it to you straight:

How can we, as a community, be in secession/partition of an RoC that does not exist according to the definition of the Resolution to begin with?

Better yet: Are you an RoC that recognizes/acknowledges/embeds in its CONSTITUTION a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with two politically equal communities as defined in the U.N. Resolutions?

If the RoC which claim to be recognizes/acknowledges/embeds in its constitution a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with two politically equal communities as defined in the U.N. Resolutions: my apologies, for yes we as a community are guilty as charged of violating this resolution. If not: you should stop your illegal usurpation/theft of the title/benefits of the government of RoC today because you by definition of the U.N. and in accordance with our Agreements are not the RoC. What is it going to be?

You've premanently got a gun on your foot I see. Here's a free-be for you...The constituion of the ROC does not say its a BI-ZONAL STATE!!!!!!

For someone that pretends he knows what he's talking about...he really doesn't know what he's talking about.

The only gun I see is the one that just blew in your mouth triggered by your finger. Thank you very much for your confession :

The constituion of the ROC does not say its a BI-ZONAL STATE!!!!!!

I know it doesn`t and that is exactly my point!!! Not only the constitution you have does not say that the state is bi-zonal, but it also doesn`t say that it is bi-communal and that those two communities have equal political status, despite that all these terms should be incorporated as mandated by the U.N. Resolutions and by our Agreements about what/how RoC should be. So try again:

You asked if I am aware of my community`s violation of the Resolution which states: RoC, which by definition should be a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with politically equal communities, should exclude any kind of partition or secession. Than I am asking you:


How can we, as a community, be in secession/partition of an RoC that does not exist according to the definition of the Resolution to begin with?

Better yet: Are you an RoC that recognizes/acknowledges/embeds in its CONSTITUTION a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with two politically equal communities as defined/mandated in the U.N. Resolutions?

If the RoC which claim to be recognizes/acknowledges/embeds in its constitution a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with two politically equal communities as the U.N. Resolutions mandate: my apologies, for yes we as a community are guilty as charged of violating this resolution. If not: you should stop your illegal usurpation/theft of the title/benefits of the government of RoC today because you by definition of the U.N. and in accordance with our Agreements are not the RoC. What is it going to be?

[zan]

How it should exist today is given explicitly by the U.N. :
Resolution 750 (April 1992) (which has been reaffirmed annually since then)-

“Reaffirms the position set out in resolutions 649 (1990) of March 12 1990 and 716 (1991) October 11 1991 that a Cyprus settlement must be based on a State of Cyprus with a single sovereignty and international personality and a single citizenship, with its independence and territorial integrity safeguarded, and comprising two politically equal communities as defined in Paragraph 11 of Secretary-General’s report in a bi-communal and bi-zonal federation, and that such a settlement must exclude union in whole or in part with any other country or any form of partition or secession;”

Thanks for the quote. Have you noticed that your community has been in a clear violation of this resolution for the last 16 years?

this is an excellent point that keeps getting made. My TC friends keep quoting parts of UN resolutions and the ROC constitution to prove some of their points without consideration to the huge contradictions they are making.

Even if i was an indepedant bystander I'd consider this schizophrenic to say the least.

I'm eagerly anticipating replies from the TC camp...

And still they ignore GR

Wow… nice to see that my "fan club" is getting more crowded by the day. I was exchanging posts with Piratis when you (Get Real! and Piratis` officially designated suck-up DT) jumped in to divert the subject. I am only one person and can deal with only a number of you at a time. Anyway... in recognition of your enthusiasm (!), I am going to cut you guys a slack and give you a free bee for this time, so here goes:

It was asked if I am aware of my community`s violation of the Resolution which states: RoC, which by definition should be a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with politically equal communities, should exclude any kind of partition or secession. The answer to your question is not even a matter of debate, so I`ll give it to you straight:

How can we, as a community, be in secession/partition of an RoC that does not exist according to the definition of the Resolution to begin with?

Better yet: Are you an RoC that recognizes/acknowledges/embeds in its CONSTITUTION a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with two politically equal communities as defined in the U.N. Resolutions?

If the RoC which claim to be recognizes/acknowledges/embeds in its constitution a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with two politically equal communities as defined in the U.N. Resolutions: my apologies, for yes we as a community are guilty as charged of violating this resolution. If not: you should stop your illegal usurpation/theft of the title/benefits of the government of RoC today because you by definition of the U.N. and in accordance with our Agreements are not the RoC. What is it going to be?

Great post Murataga!!!!
It seems that resolutions are to be taken seriously by just one side
The "RoC" was not the solution. It seems that many either choose to ignore this fact or just don't understand it. Miltiades has been asked a hundred times why he is trying to sell us something that does not function in the way that it was designed to and he has always ignored it. Just like a good salesman though he skips past the important parts and gets us to concentrate on the parts that he knows full well was a mistake. I have every intention of staying friends with my current GC friends and look forward to making more friends but this propaganda has to be exposed. People like him are screaming that they are the guardians of faith in Cypriotism but cannot accept the wrongs that have been done in order for the "RoC' to be where it is today. They prefer to use the unjust laws to their advantage and have the cheek to tell us we are not being reasonable. We can't trust the "Greeks" like TPap and we are being shown that the so-called Cypriots cannot be trusted either. We are on our own and must demand what we want because we have little hope in fairness.


You some others and me are being picked clean to the bones and told we are not even Cypriot because we have taken the real facts and come to our conclusions. I for one am fed up with those that have highjacked the word and use it to portray themselves as the only `Cypriots. These democratic people are telling us how we should be thinking an one moron even tells me that I am not even a refugee from 64/65 and I suffered nothing in 63. What an arsehole, and I think he knows who he is.

As Cypriots we all have a right in saying what we believe and nothing will stop us.

[DT.]

How it should exist today is given explicitly by the U.N. :
Resolution 750 (April 1992) (which has been reaffirmed annually since then)-

“Reaffirms the position set out in resolutions 649 (1990) of March 12 1990 and 716 (1991) October 11 1991 that a Cyprus settlement must be based on a State of Cyprus with a single sovereignty and international personality and a single citizenship, with its independence and territorial integrity safeguarded, and comprising two politically equal communities as defined in Paragraph 11 of Secretary-General’s report in a bi-communal and bi-zonal federation, and that such a settlement must exclude union in whole or in part with any other country or any form of partition or secession;”

Thanks for the quote. Have you noticed that your community has been in a clear violation of this resolution for the last 16 years?

this is an excellent point that keeps getting made. My TC friends keep quoting parts of UN resolutions and the ROC constitution to prove some of their points without consideration to the huge contradictions they are making.

Even if i was an indepedant bystander I'd consider this schizophrenic to say the least.

I'm eagerly anticipating replies from the TC camp...

And still they ignore GR

Wow… nice to see that my "fan club" is getting more crowded by the day. I was exchanging posts with Piratis when you (Get Real! and Piratis` officially designated suck-up DT) jumped in to divert the subject. I am only one person and can deal with only a number of you at a time. Anyway... in recognition of your enthusiasm (!), I am going to cut you guys a slack and give you a free bee for this time, so here goes:

It was asked if I am aware of my community`s violation of the Resolution which states: RoC, which by definition should be a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with politically equal communities, should exclude any kind of partition or secession. The answer to your question is not even a matter of debate, so I`ll give it to you straight:

How can we, as a community, be in secession/partition of an RoC that does not exist according to the definition of the Resolution to begin with?

Better yet: Are you an RoC that recognizes/acknowledges/embeds in its CONSTITUTION a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with two politically equal communities as defined in the U.N. Resolutions?

If the RoC which claim to be recognizes/acknowledges/embeds in its constitution a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with two politically equal communities as defined in the U.N. Resolutions: my apologies, for yes we as a community are guilty as charged of violating this resolution. If not: you should stop your illegal usurpation/theft of the title/benefits of the government of RoC today because you by definition of the U.N. and in accordance with our Agreements are not the RoC. What is it going to be?

You've premanently got a gun on your foot I see. Here's a free-be for you...The constituion of the ROC does not say its a BI-ZONAL STATE!!!!!!

For someone that pretends he knows what he's talking about...he really doesn't know what he's talking about.

The only gun I see is the one that just blew in your mouth triggered by your finger. Thank you very much for your confession :

The constituion of the ROC does not say its a BI-ZONAL STATE!!!!!!

I know it doesn`t and that is exactly my point!!! Not only the constitution you have does not say that the state is bi-zonal, but it also doesn`t say that it is bi-communal and that those two communities have equal political status, despite that all these terms should be incorporated as mandated by the U.N. Resolutions and by our Agreements about what/how RoC should be. So try again:

You asked if I am aware of my community`s violation of the Resolution which states: RoC, which by definition should be a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with politically equal communities, should exclude any kind of partition or secession. Than I am asking you:


How can we, as a community, be in secession/partition of an RoC that does not exist according to the definition of the Resolution to begin with?

Better yet: Are you an RoC that recognizes/acknowledges/embeds in its CONSTITUTION a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with two politically equal communities as defined/mandated in the U.N. Resolutions?

If the RoC which claim to be recognizes/acknowledges/embeds in its constitution a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with two politically equal communities as the U.N. Resolutions mandate: my apologies, for yes we as a community are guilty as charged of violating this resolution. If not: you should stop your illegal usurpation/theft of the title/benefits of the government of RoC today because you by definition of the U.N. and in accordance with our Agreements are not the RoC. What is it going to be?

The ROC is ready to sign tomorrow such a solution. (Please note that it would be helpful for you to read the definition of political equality of the two communities stated here. I believe Pyro has already quoted you this definition unless you would like me to get it for you.)

A bi-communal, bi-zonal federation with the political equality of the 2 communities as defined by the SG.

And by the way since you're so into your resolutions lately, does the one below ring a bell or should we just pretend that this one never came out?

RESOLUTION 541 (1983)

Adopted by the Security Council
on 18 November 1983



The Security Council,

Having heard the statement of the Foreign Minister of the Government of the Republic of Cyprus,

Concerned at the declaration by the Turkish Cypriot authorities issued on 15 November 1983 which purports to create an independent state in northern Cyprus,

Considering that this declaration is incompatible with the 1960 Treaty concerning the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus and the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee,

Considering therefore that the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus", is invalid, and will contribute to a worsening of the situation in Cyprus,

Reaffirming its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975),

Aware of the need for a solution of the Cyprus problem, based on the mission of good offices undertaken by the Secretary-General,

Affirming its continuing support for the United Nations Peace-Keeping Force in Cyprus,

Taking note of the Secretary-General's statement of 17 November 1983,

1. Deplores the declaration of the Turkish Cypriot authorities of the purported secession of part of the Republic of Cyprus;

2. Considers the declaration referred to above as legally invalid and calls for its withdrawal;

3. Calls for the urgent and effective implementation of its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975);

4. Requests the Secretary-General to pursue his mission of good offices in order to achieve the earliest possible progress towards a just and lasting settlement in Cyprus;

5. Calls upon the parties to cooperate fully with the Secretary-General in his mission of good offices;

6. Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and non-alignment of the Republic of Cyprus;

7. Calls upon all States not to recognise any Cypriot state other than the Republic of Cyprus;

8. Calls upon all States and the two communities in Cyprus to refrain from any action which might exacerbate the situation;

9. Requests the Secretary-General to keep the Security Council fully informed.

Adopted at the 2500th meeting by 13 votes to 1 against (Pakistan) with 1 abstention (Jordan).

[Murataga]

Still no answer. Could you kindly answer the question please:

You asked if I am aware of my community`s violation of the Resolution which states: RoC, which by definition should be a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with politically equal communities, should exclude any kind of partition or secession. Than I am asking you:


How can we, as a community, be in secession/partition of an RoC that does not exist according to the definition of the Resolution to begin with?

Better yet: Are you an RoC that recognizes/acknowledges/embeds in its CONSTITUTION a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with two politically equal communities as defined/mandated in the U.N. Resolutions?

If the RoC which claim to be recognizes/acknowledges/embeds in its constitution a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with two politically equal communities as the U.N. Resolutions mandate: my apologies, for yes we as a community are guilty as charged of violating this resolution. If not: you should stop your illegal usurpation/theft of the title/benefits of the government of RoC today because you by definition of the U.N. and in accordance with our Agreements are not the RoC. What is it going to be?

[miltiades]

ZAN WROTE :
It seems that resolutions are to be taken seriously by just one side
The "RoC" was not the solution. It seems that many either choose to ignore this fact or just don't understand it. Miltiades has been asked a hundred times why he is trying to sell us something that does not function in the way that it was designed to and he has always ignored it. Just like a good salesman though he skips past the important parts and gets us to concentrate on the parts that he knows full well was a mistake. I have every intention of staying friends with my current GC friends and look forward to making more friends but this propaganda has to be exposed. People like him are screaming that they are the guardians of faith in Cypriotism but cannot accept the wrongs that have been done in order for the "RoC' to be where it is today. They prefer to use the unjust laws to their advantage and have the cheek to tell us we are not being reasonable. We can't trust the "Greeks" like TPap and we are being shown that the so-called Cypriots cannot be trusted either. We are on our own and must demand what we want because we have little hope in fairness.


You some others and me are being picked clean to the bones and told we are not even Cypriot because we have taken the real facts and come to our conclusions. I for one am fed up with those that have highjacked the word and use it to portray themselves as the only `Cypriots. These democratic people are telling us how we should be thinking an one moron even tells me that I am not even a refugee from 64/65 and I suffered nothing in 63. What an arsehole, and I think he knows who he is.

As Cypriots we all have a right in saying what we believe and nothing will stop us.""

Zan , ever since VP came to London and signed you up you begun to question the legality of the following governments and institutions .
UN
EU
USA
BRITAIN
CANADA
AUSTRALIA
NEW ZEALAND
And to cut it short , all governments the world over , including all of the Muslim nations' governmements.
All the world is an accessory as far as your petty little brain is concerned to the illegal status of the RoC. !!!!
If the RoC is illegal then all nations are also illegal because they are recognising an illegal regime. You are so absurd and pathetic in your arguments which indicate that you are a member of VPs department and vindicate my previous posts on this matter. You are a Cypriot act like one . What happened to your new world dream mate , Now that Hamas is in power maybe your dream will come true in the "TRNC"

[DT.]

Still no answer. Could you kindly answer the question please:

You asked if I am aware of my community`s violation of the Resolution which states: RoC, which by definition should be a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with politically equal communities, as defined in paragraph 11 of the Secretary Generals report should exclude any kind of partition or secession. Than I am asking you:


How can we, as a community, be in secession/partition of an RoC that does not exist according to the definition of the Resolution to begin with?

Better yet: Are you an RoC that recognizes/acknowledges/embeds in its CONSTITUTION a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with two politically equal communities as defined/mandated in the U.N. Resolutions?

If the RoC which claim to be recognizes/acknowledges/embeds in its constitution a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with two politically equal communities as the U.N. Resolutions mandate: my apologies, for yes we as a community are guilty as charged of violating this resolution. If not: you should stop your illegal usurpation/theft of the title/benefits of the government of RoC today because you by definition of the U.N. and in accordance with our Agreements are not the RoC. What is it going to be?

Firstly why do you leave out a part of this resolution (I've included it for you, its in red)
Secondly The ROC has recognised that the settlement to the Cyprus problem is through a bi-communcal and bi-zonal federal state.

As Cyprus President Tassos Papadopoulos stated "What we demand is very reasonable and what we aim for is self-evident:
We demand and aim for the reunification of our country and our people in the framework of a bi-communal,
bi-zonal federation; a state with one economy, a cohesive society and non-fragmented institutions.
We demand and aim to safeguard our fundamental rights and basic freedoms. We demand a solution which can be
workable and lasting in order to serve the interests and rights of all Cypriots and not of other countries."

The parliament of Cyprus has released a number of resolutions and votes preparing the groundwork to amens the constitutional order of the state into one of bi-zonal and bi-communal.

You on the other hand have drunk up a diffferent state, and are actively seeking recognition of this state (partition).

I now await your apologies because and I quote from you " We (the TC;s) as a community are guilty as charged for violating this resoultion" This is due to your side maintaining a policy of partition and/or union with a separate country.

[humanist]

DT said Firstly why do you leave out a part of this resolution (I've included it for you, its in red)
Secondly The ROC has recognised that the settlement to the Cyprus problem is through a bi-communcal and bi-zonal federal state.

As Cyprus President Tassos Papadopoulos stated "What we demand is very reasonable and what we aim for is self-evident:
We demand and aim for the reunification of our country and our people in the framework of a bi-communal,
bi-zonal federation; a state with one economy, a cohesive society and non-fragmented institutions.
We demand and aim to safeguard our fundamental rights and basic freedoms. We demand a solution which can be
workable and lasting in order to serve the interests and rights of all Cypriots and not of other countries."

The parliament of Cyprus has released a number of resolutions and votes preparing the groundwork to amens the constitutional order of the state into one of bi-zonal and bi-communal.

You on the other hand have drunk up a diffferent state, and are actively seeking recognition of this state (partition).

I now await your apologies because and I quote from you " We (the TC;s) as a community are guilty as charged for violating this resoultion" This is due to your side maintaining a policy of partition and/or union with a separate country.[quote]

Great post DT, very clear and sasinct. I applaud the Cypriot president upon his coments. Well said Mr President

[zan]

ZAN WROTE :
It seems that resolutions are to be taken seriously by just one side
The "RoC" was not the solution. It seems that many either choose to ignore this fact or just don't understand it. Miltiades has been asked a hundred times why he is trying to sell us something that does not function in the way that it was designed to and he has always ignored it. Just like a good salesman though he skips past the important parts and gets us to concentrate on the parts that he knows full well was a mistake. I have every intention of staying friends with my current GC friends and look forward to making more friends but this propaganda has to be exposed. People like him are screaming that they are the guardians of faith in Cypriotism but cannot accept the wrongs that have been done in order for the "RoC' to be where it is today. They prefer to use the unjust laws to their advantage and have the cheek to tell us we are not being reasonable. We can't trust the "Greeks" like TPap and we are being shown that the so-called Cypriots cannot be trusted either. We are on our own and must demand what we want because we have little hope in fairness.


You some others and me are being picked clean to the bones and told we are not even Cypriot because we have taken the real facts and come to our conclusions. I for one am fed up with those that have highjacked the word and use it to portray themselves as the only `Cypriots. These democratic people are telling us how we should be thinking an one moron even tells me that I am not even a refugee from 64/65 and I suffered nothing in 63. What an arsehole, and I think he knows who he is.

As Cypriots we all have a right in saying what we believe and nothing will stop us.""

Zan , ever since VP came to London and signed you up you begun to question the legality of the following governments and institutions .
UN
EU
USA
BRITAIN
CANADA
AUSTRALIA
NEW ZEALAND
And to cut it short , all governments the world over , including all of the Muslim nations' governmements.
All the world is an accessory as far as your petty little brain is concerned to the illegal status of the RoC. !!!!
If the RoC is illegal then all nations are also illegal because they are recognising an illegal regime. You are so absurd and pathetic in your arguments which indicate that you are a member of VPs department and vindicate my previous posts on this matter. You are a Cypriot act like one . What happened to your new world dream mate , Now that Hamas is in power maybe your dream will come true in the "TRNC"

Still as racist as ever I see Miltiades. It is comforting though that some things never change even though they are as hazardous as you seem to be to the Cyprob.

I do not have to wait for you to tell me whether I am a Cypriot or not Miltiades so you can give up on that one. I am a Cypriot and I do not need your permission to be one.


You continue to use a system that has made a massive mistake in putting only the GC people and government in power of an island that has a special constitution that says we as TCs have every right and privileges due to circumstances. You want to do away with that so that the power is in your hands and we as self-respecting Cypriots are places into a second-class status within our own country. We have had a taste of our freedom and will not give up that constitutional right to exist in a country which we will have to become part of instead of being accepted as being part of for a long period of its recent history. We are not new members but veterans of that country Miltiades. I do not recognise any part of the "RoC" regardless of what mistakes the world made and the incompetence of the TCs in avoiding it. The wrongs of this world are not being lived with but corrected. I hope that the TRNC/KKTC are finally coming round to that sort of thinking.

Your constant attempts at trying to lump VP and me into the same hat and therefore trying to belittle what we say as a whole is rather pathetic. If you want our respect for what you say you have to show respect for what we say. You have been dismissive from the start and so have received nothing back in return. My thoughts on the "RoC" have not changed one little bit since I found out the realities of the situation and that was long before VP and I ever met. VP has his own mind and I have mine and no one is going to tell me different. I could say that you have brainwashed BIR and Kikapyros too but I think that is self-evident...............


You are putting the “RoC” as being the solution that the EU decided on as the Annan plan failed. You try to make out that the alternative to the Annan Plan was the "RoC". IT WAS NOT and was never meant to be. You guys do not seem to realise that the world is telling you that the OXI to the Annan Plan was your last chance at unification and now you try to offer us second best as with the "RoC". The negotiations are still going on for a settlement Miltiades so stop trying to find a short cut. You may be happy with the situation but we are not and we have some demands that we would like to offer into that arena. We have our rights to do so and it is only your arrogance, ignorance and intransigence that is stopping us doing so. THE "RoC" was not the alternative to the Annan Plan...read it and weep!!

[DT.]

DT said Firstly why do you leave out a part of this resolution (I've included it for you, its in red)
Secondly The ROC has recognised that the settlement to the Cyprus problem is through a bi-communcal and bi-zonal federal state.

As Cyprus President Tassos Papadopoulos stated "What we demand is very reasonable and what we aim for is self-evident:
We demand and aim for the reunification of our country and our people in the framework of a bi-communal,
bi-zonal federation; a state with one economy, a cohesive society and non-fragmented institutions.
We demand and aim to safeguard our fundamental rights and basic freedoms. We demand a solution which can be
workable and lasting in order to serve the interests and rights of all Cypriots and not of other countries."

The parliament of Cyprus has released a number of resolutions and votes preparing the groundwork to amens the constitutional order of the state into one of bi-zonal and bi-communal.

You on the other hand have drunk up a diffferent state, and are actively seeking recognition of this state (partition).

I now await your apologies because and I quote from you " We (the TC;s) as a community are guilty as charged for violating this resoultion" This is due to your side maintaining a policy of partition and/or union with a separate country.

Great post DT, very clear and sasinct. I applaud the Cypriot president upon his coments. Well said Mr President

Thanks humanist. another freebie for my friend murataga.

[Murataga]

Still no answer. Could you kindly answer the question please:

You asked if I am aware of my community`s violation of the Resolution which states: RoC, which by definition should be a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with politically equal communities, as defined in paragraph 11 of the Secretary Generals report should exclude any kind of partition or secession. Than I am asking you:


How can we, as a community, be in secession/partition of an RoC that does not exist according to the definition of the Resolution to begin with?

Better yet: Are you an RoC that recognizes/acknowledges/embeds in its CONSTITUTION a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with two politically equal communities as defined/mandated in the U.N. Resolutions?

If the RoC which claim to be recognizes/acknowledges/embeds in its constitution a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with two politically equal communities as the U.N. Resolutions mandate: my apologies, for yes we as a community are guilty as charged of violating this resolution. If not: you should stop your illegal usurpation/theft of the title/benefits of the government of RoC today because you by definition of the U.N. and in accordance with our Agreements are not the RoC. What is it going to be?

Firstly why do you leave out a part of this resolution (I've included it for you, its in red)
Secondly The ROC has recognised that the settlement to the Cyprus problem is through a bi-communcal and bi-zonal federal state.

As Cyprus President Tassos Papadopoulos stated "What we demand is very reasonable and what we aim for is self-evident:
We demand and aim for the reunification of our country and our people in the framework of a bi-communal,
bi-zonal federation; a state with one economy, a cohesive society and non-fragmented institutions.
We demand and aim to safeguard our fundamental rights and basic freedoms. We demand a solution which can be
workable and lasting in order to serve the interests and rights of all Cypriots and not of other countries."

The parliament of Cyprus has released a number of resolutions and votes preparing the groundwork to amens the constitutional order of the state into one of bi-zonal and bi-communal.

You on the other hand have drunk up a diffferent state, and are actively seeking recognition of this state (partition).

I now await your apologies because and I quote from you " We (the TC;s) as a community are guilty as charged for violating this resoultion" This is due to your side maintaining a policy of partition and/or union with a separate country.

Still no answer. I already told you that our leaders agreed to these principles, which automatically nullifies your arguement of being the RoC, for by doing so you accept what RoC is supposed to be and simultaneously acknowledging that you are not it. Don`t give me shit about what your illegal government "prepared the groundwork for" or any irrelevant quote from your criminal leader. Why is it so difficult for you to answer? I`ll throw in the part where you wrote in red aswell. Just answer the question, simple.

You asked if I am aware of my community`s violation of the Resolution which states: RoC, which by definition should be a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with politically equal communities, as defined in paragraph 11 of the Secretary Generals report should exclude any kind of partition or secession. Than I am asking you:


How can we, as a community, be in secession/partition of an RoC that does not exist according to the definition of the Resolution to begin with?

Better yet: Are you an RoC that recognizes/acknowledges/embeds in its CONSTITUTION a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with two politically equal communities as defined/mandated in the U.N. Resolutions?

If the RoC which claim to be recognizes/acknowledges/embeds in its constitution a bi-communal, bi-zonal state with two politically equal communities as the U.N. Resolutions mandate: my apologies, for yes we as a community are guilty as charged of violating this resolution. If not: you should stop your illegal usurpation/theft of the title/benefits of the government of RoC today because you by definition of the U.N. and in accordance with our Agreements are not the RoC. What is it going to be?