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[Pyrpolizer]

It may work there coz they dont have Turkish, Greek or Cypriots brains..
They r not ruled by an army or a church..

Who is ruled by the Church?

What's wrong with Cypriot brains?

There is something wrong with Turkish+Greek+Cypriot brains, I can feel it even if I'm not a brain surgeon..
1 side follow a hypocrite army and the other side a hypocrite church instead of following common sense...
Am I wrong??

Karma please koukla mou, we are following the church???
In the 50s when the few high school graduates were vowing on Greece for Christan Greeks yes, but today mana mou??? When the vast majority of people just have to go to church for weddings etc and the first question they ask is what time the ceremony ends so they go there just for 15 minutes?

[Pyrpolizer]

In a UNITED Cypriot society everyone is equal and no one is a minority, other than the gays, greenies, socialists, shepeherds, dancers etc.

Very true humanist. The true minorities are those who deviate too much from the average. Should I add to that the very clever people, and a thousand more categories? Nobody likes them simply because they are not average.

[humanist]

VP I accept your argument, I disagree and trust goes both ways and I personally do not agree with ending the isolation as this will eventually lead to division of the Isalnd. Personally and you may be aware from previous posts I do give a hoot about the land and my grandmother was made refugee upon Turkeys invasion of out Island, however land and freedom in Cyprus' situation are one in the same. That is the essence of the argument. I am happy to go with the staus quo. Occupation of the north of Cyprus and declaration as an independent republic and Isolation in every respect and refugees loosing out on their freedoms and choices. Or we could move beyond the 33 year staus quo to a solvable approach which would mean Unifying economic, educational health domains with a view of Unification. Unless you start lining us up and shooting 700 od thousand Greek speaking Cypriots today there will always be a greek speaking dominance on the Island. So if you feel that is the way to have equality start shootin now VP.

Minority populations in other nations have equal rights, it too can be achieved in Cyprus also. However, the fact that you mention that in your post indicates to me that the agenda for the Turkish speaking Cypriot is not one of Unification at all.

I wonder VP if there was an Island between Cyprus and Turkey and was offered to Turkish speaking Cypriots will they accept it and move it there? for ownership and independence.

[denizaksulu]

SorryKarma, you asked if you were right or wrong re army and church. Yes, I am afraid you are wrong.

[denizaksulu]

Over the wekend, on the occasion of Fathers Day I met other parents from Mauritius and Guyana. They were Mauritian and Guyanese first of all. None said they were Indian muslims or Indian Hindus, until I probed in to their ancestry. I'd say good for them. Could we Cypriots take a leaf out of their book. These people had been in these countries not much more than 200 years. Mauritius maybe a bit longer.

[miltiades]

miltiades before responding to your post, you yet again accuse me of being stupid I warned you to refrain from this as it was not how we should address each other as it is does not encourage the right quality of debate, either you apologise and stop doing this or I will be forced to respond in the following manner.... who the fucking hell do you think you are you bastard scum bag of a moron.

The choice is yours.

What I said is the following:
"""""VP , are you playing stupid or are you stupid. """

You respond in a way that tells me exactly what you are !!
In all of my 2600 posts I never once called you this filthy names , I questioned your mental state I did not imply that you are Stupid , but obviously I must have hit a sensitive nerve to get the response that you gave. Never mind VP , your true colours were known long ago by most on this forum. Let me pose the question once more . VP, are you stupid or just plain vulgar ?

Stop playing the virgin and look back at your own posts, your scarcasm and verbal insults are all over them I politely warned you to stop this as it lowers the tone of the forum but unfortunately you chose to ignore this and therefore warrant the above if you continue then I can produce a lot worse when provoked, keep a civil tongue and you will get the same kind of civil response.

You were a loser in the UK , that is the reason that you emigrated to Cyprus. You are full of shit and no brains so go to hell Mr Vulgar mouth ,
and learn how to behave properly without using obscenities.

Whats the matter Mr El Greco not happy taking some of your own medicine, can see you are practicing your fictisious love for all TCs what a load of tripe, I warned you many times politely not to push your scarcasm and verbal insults or I will respond in kind but being so thick skinned you continued. Stop and I will stop as well but for now I will get worse as and when I see fit knuckle head.

Should I encourage you Mr. VP to post some more obscenities , or shall cower with fear at the though of Mr Vulgar losing his cool and reverting to what he does best , lets try again Mr.Vulgar , You are a looser , You are not representative of the T/Cs , You are an opportunist hyena who emigrated to the occupied part of Cyprus scavenging for freebies , having got them , no one is going to take them away from you. Well listed dick head , the T/Cs are more my people than yours ,remember I have in my family strong connections with T/Cs so cut the crap out and stop pretending that your opinions are reflective of the T/Cs.

[humanist]

Wow go a bit easy there Miltiades, of-course we know that three or four Turkish speaking Cypriots on this forum aren't representative of Turkish speaking Cypriots neither are the few Greek speaking Cypriots on this forum representatives of all Greek speaking Cypriots. The only difference is that the educated Greek speaking Cypriot on the forum recognises the equality between Greek and Turkish speaking Cypriots. In this instance I am happy to announce that I am one of the majority. The other issue is that it is difficult to ascertain who is a Turk and who is a Turkish speaking Cypriot I guess we'll never know. Although, one knows if someone on the forum is a Greek or a Greek speaking Cypriot.

[denizaksulu]

Miltiades, what you can try and do, albeit it is almost impossible is to ignore post from personally agressive posters. It worked for me in the past, for a while. Then I got used to it. Upsetting they may be or infuriating, just ignore them. As my lady wife always says "they are only words".

[denizaksulu]

Hi Humanist,
you are right to an extent.I have been going through thousands of posts to "catch up" and try to ascertain where various posters originate from. Its become a game. I think as you pointed out , sorting out the Cypriots from the Greeks is made easier. However I doubt - from what info I have gathered so far there is no more than two Turksfrom Turkey (yet I could be wrong) the rest probaly are Turkish speaking Cypriots. It is important to listen to their (and other guests views at least we can see how they perceive us. When you talk about educated people or "uneducated" whatever that means (is ability to access date, serious study of the issues) they all are entitled to there opinions. From what I have read so far there are quite a few "educated" and "intellectual" contributers and they do aid the smooth running of debates.
It is a pity that some "hot heads" under provacation seem to lose their cool.
Lets be civil to each other and continue enjoying this forum.

[denizaksulu]

Another statistical point to investigate is the age grouping of contributing Cypriots. Are opinions similar, of people of similar age groups? Are diaspora (UK based peoples opinions similar?What about refugees and/or relatives of both sides. Would anybody dare and create a new poll. (but then that would mean people being easily identified). The wording can be a sensitive matter as we have noticed from the last poll. Just a thought.