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[humanist]

my first reply is Cypriot the, second one Greek speaking Cypriot,

[miltiades]

17 Contributors to this forum have voted that T/Cs are joint owners of Cyprus. 4 against , one of which has told us that his vote should have been the yes vote but he made a mistake. Taking that into account , only 3 out of 21 votes thought that the T/Cs are not the joint owners. This means 85% of members agree that the T/Cs are joint owners. This tells me that the overwhelming majority on this forum consider themselves to be Cypriots regardless of ethnicity. Let VP and Zan digest these figures which are quite significant in that at the end of the day we all feel that we are Cypriots . I think the author , my dear friend mrfromng , ought to forgive me for jumping in with the analysis but I'm certain that he will soon add his valued comments.

[denizaksulu]

I expect a response from Tpop and T. I would like them to tell us what they really think and not what they ought to say.

[humanist]

Miltiades I also said no to the question of co-ownership, that was in response to brief frustration. Of course I belive that Turkish Cypriots are co-onwers of the Island of Cyprus, the whole of the Island and not merely 1/3 of it the north part. I would also like to see that each and every Cypriot is given the right of return to their properties unless they so otherwise choose. I would also like to see a unitd people working together to create a new Cyprus based on old values of family and hospitality and an evr grwing economy comprable to that of a successful European State.

[miltiades]

Miltiades I also said no to the question of co-ownership, that was in response to brief frustration. Of course I belive that Turkish Cypriots are co-onwers of the Island of Cyprus, the whole of the Island and not merely 1/3 of it the north part. I would also like to see that each and every Cypriot is given the right of return to their properties unless they so otherwise choose. I would also like to see a unitd people working together to create a new Cyprus based on old values of family and hospitality and an evr grwing economy comprable to that of a successful European State.

My dear humanist , I understand how frustrating the whole situation on our island can sometimes appear. I have passed that stage now thankfully and I'm sure you too will . The same frustration can also be felt by our T/C compatriots at not being able to subscribe to all that is going on , progress wise , in Cyprus. I understand fully why they want direct flights and direct trade , I also understand their reluctance to go back to the 1960 agreements AND THEIR REAL FRUSTRATION AT CYPRUS BEING PROMOTED BY SOME CIRCLES AS AN AN EXCLUSIVE GREEK ISLAND.
When you read Birkibrisly , Deni , Kikapu , and from the past , Ahmet and Pashia , not forgetting Alex , you become encouraged and full of respect for these true Cypriots who want nothing more than to see a peaceful solution with all Cypriots equal and not minorities or majorities which appear to wither away when the Cypriot identity is the dominant one.
I stated many times in the past that one of my ambitions was to see a T/C as the President of a united Cyprus , because such an event would herald the end of conflict for ever and the begining of a truly Cypriot nation. I put forward my dear friend Birkibrisly as the next president , I'm sure he would appoint me the Minister in charge of promoting Cypriot wine and the chief taster !!!

[denizaksulu]

Miltiades, could we possibly add an honorary post for Minister in charge of promoting Cypriot wine and the chief taster and appoint Karma as your deputy? That way we might save her from expulsion as I am sure Karma will show her appreciation and forgive evil doers.

[Viewpoint]

17 Contributors to this forum have voted that T/Cs are joint owners of Cyprus. 4 against , one of which has told us that his vote should have been the yes vote but he made a mistake. Taking that into account , only 3 out of 21 votes thought that the T/Cs are not the joint owners. This means 85% of members agree that the T/Cs are joint owners. This tells me that the overwhelming majority on this forum consider themselves to be Cypriots regardless of ethnicity. Let VP and Zan digest these figures which are quite significant in that at the end of the day we all feel that we are Cypriots . I think the author , my dear friend mrfromng , ought to forgive me for jumping in with the analysis but I'm certain that he will soon add his valued comments.

Exactly what Zan and I have been saying all along, so this is really a slap in the face of those that accuse us of being thieves how can you steal what you jointly own. Where we differ is that I say we are better off living side by side in peace the past 33 years is proof enough, what have you got to show for unity 1960 to 1974? I know which I prefer. The level playing field is the only way forward and the EU know this in tiime and banking on the standard GC arrogance and intrangience a breaking point will come when the EU will force the spoilt child of Europe the GC south to act like Europeans and allow an easing of the isolation on the North.

Now that we have established we are joint owners of Cyprus, does joint ownership mean 50% 50%? are we equals? or do we have less rights? Do you see us as having an equal say in the future of our country? Please clarify this because there are GCs who think like Piratis for example that our say is dependent on the GCs 80%.

[miltiades]

17 Contributors to this forum have voted that T/Cs are joint owners of Cyprus. 4 against , one of which has told us that his vote should have been the yes vote but he made a mistake. Taking that into account , only 3 out of 21 votes thought that the T/Cs are not the joint owners. This means 85% of members agree that the T/Cs are joint owners. This tells me that the overwhelming majority on this forum consider themselves to be Cypriots regardless of ethnicity. Let VP and Zan digest these figures which are quite significant in that at the end of the day we all feel that we are Cypriots . I think the author , my dear friend mrfromng , ought to forgive me for jumping in with the analysis but I'm certain that he will soon add his valued comments.

Exactly what Zan and I have been saying all along, so this is really a slap in the face of those that accuse us of being thieves how can you steal what you jointly own. Where we differ is that I say we are better off living side by side in peace the past 33 years is proof enough, what have you got to show for unity 1960 to 1974? I know which I prefer. The level playing field is the only way forward and the EU know this in tiime and banking on the standard GC arrogance and intrangience a breaking point will come when the EU will force the spoilt child of Europe the GC south to act like Europeans and allow an easing of the isolation on the North.

Now that we have established we are joint owners of Cyprus, does joint ownership mean 50% 50%? are we equals? or do we have less rights? Do you see us as having an equal say in the future of our country? Please clarify this because there are GCs who think like Piratis for example that our say is dependent on the GCs 80%.

I think your little brain is missing the point here mate. Joint owners yes , but confiscating my property and selling it of to foreign investors IS NOT PART OF JOINT OWNERSHIP.Neither is walking into a Cyprus Bank and demanding 50% of assets. Neither does it mean that Turkish settlers are given my land , for which land I have the legal deeds . Neither does it mean that demands by the legal owners of the right to return to their properties is arrogant or ignorant. Wake up and start talking sense not bullshit. Do me a favour mate , get real !

[Kifeas]

17 Contributors to this forum have voted that T/Cs are joint owners of Cyprus. 4 against , one of which has told us that his vote should have been the yes vote but he made a mistake. Taking that into account , only 3 out of 21 votes thought that the T/Cs are not the joint owners. This means 85% of members agree that the T/Cs are joint owners. This tells me that the overwhelming majority on this forum consider themselves to be Cypriots regardless of ethnicity. Let VP and Zan digest these figures which are quite significant in that at the end of the day we all feel that we are Cypriots . I think the author , my dear friend mrfromng , ought to forgive me for jumping in with the analysis but I'm certain that he will soon add his valued comments.

Exactly what Zan and I have been saying all along, so this is really a slap in the face of those that accuse us of being thieves how can you steal what you jointly own. Where we differ is that I say we are better off living side by side in peace the past 33 years is proof enough, what have you got to show for unity 1960 to 1974? I know which I prefer. The level playing field is the only way forward and the EU know this in tiime and banking on the standard GC arrogance and intrangience a breaking point will come when the EU will force the spoilt child of Europe the GC south to act like Europeans and allow an easing of the isolation on the North.

Now that we have established we are joint owners of Cyprus, does joint ownership mean 50% 50%? are we equals? or do we have less rights? Do you see us as having an equal say in the future of our country? Please clarify this because there are GCs who think like Piratis for example that our say is dependent on the GCs 80%.

Yes VP, now that we have "established" that you are the "joint owners" of Cyprus, and because "joint ownership" means 50:50, and therefore you are no thieves since you cannot possibly steal what you "own," and because you prefer we live side by side; we will now withdraw to only the 50% of Cyprus instead of the excessive 63% that we used to illegitimatelly occupy in your expense, because we do not want to be seen as the thieves of our "joint ownership!"

VP, it is not your fault at all! The fault is only of those GC fools that have contributed into this thread! Please go ahead and ridicule them more, for the nonsense they have been posting! They deserve it!

[Kifeas]

17 Contributors to this forum have voted that T/Cs are joint owners of Cyprus. 4 against , one of which has told us that his vote should have been the yes vote but he made a mistake. Taking that into account , only 3 out of 21 votes thought that the T/Cs are not the joint owners. This means 85% of members agree that the T/Cs are joint owners. This tells me that the overwhelming majority on this forum consider themselves to be Cypriots regardless of ethnicity. Let VP and Zan digest these figures which are quite significant in that at the end of the day we all feel that we are Cypriots . I think the author , my dear friend mrfromng , ought to forgive me for jumping in with the analysis but I'm certain that he will soon add his valued comments.

Exactly what Zan and I have been saying all along, so this is really a slap in the face of those that accuse us of being thieves how can you steal what you jointly own. Where we differ is that I say we are better off living side by side in peace the past 33 years is proof enough, what have you got to show for unity 1960 to 1974? I know which I prefer. The level playing field is the only way forward and the EU know this in tiime and banking on the standard GC arrogance and intrangience a breaking point will come when the EU will force the spoilt child of Europe the GC south to act like Europeans and allow an easing of the isolation on the North.

Now that we have established we are joint owners of Cyprus, does joint ownership mean 50% 50%? are we equals? or do we have less rights? Do you see us as having an equal say in the future of our country? Please clarify this because there are GCs who think like Piratis for example that our say is dependent on the GCs 80%.

I think your little brain is missing the point here mate. Joint owners yes , but confiscating my property and selling it of to foreign investors IS NOT PART OF JOINT OWNERSHIP.Neither is walking into a Cyprus Bank and demanding 50% of assets. Neither does it mean that Turkish settlers are given my land , for which land I have the legal deeds . Neither does it mean that demands by the legal owners of the right to return to their properties is arrogant or ignorant. Wake up and start talking sense not bullshit. Do me a favour mate , get real !

But Miltiades, didn't you say that the TC community is the "co-owner" of Cyprus, together with the GC community? Co-ownership, in the language of business and trade, basically means 50:50! Don’t you know that! Otherwise we are talking about shareholding or stake-holding!