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[cypezokyli]

i would wait till it is recognized from the ECHR

I thought it had the approval of the ECHR, no?

the chances that it will get this approval are indeed quite high.
but this didnot happen yet

[Pyrpolizer]

Remember supposely it is an internal remedy of TURKEY.
In the remote event, that it is accepted by ECHR, it has to offer as first option the return of property. So the questions are:

a)What will happen if in fact they start returning properties?Will they stop somewhere or will they aquire thousands of new clients?
b)What will happen if 99% of the GCs do not find justice there, and refer to the ECHR? How effective a court can be when it fails by 99%??
c)What will happen if they start dragging their feet, examining one case per year?Would they be able to continue holding the title of "an effective internal remedy"?

I believe the Turkish side is just trying to dig their own grave. But like I said, this is how the Cyprob will be solved. Through unilateral actions.

[Pyrpolizer]

Hello everyone, i just wanted to ask for some advice about the deeds we have.

My grandparents are Greek Cypriots and they have Deeds for land in north cyprus.

i've heard various things from different people about claiming compensation...etc and i was wondering if someone can give me advice on what i can do with the deeds we have.

Thank you

If you want to sell your property in the occupied at 1/10th of it's real value there are many ways you can do it...
The most stupid go to the so called "property commission" of course.

[Kikapu]

Hello everyone, i just wanted to ask for some advice about the deeds we have.

My grandparents are Greek Cypriots and they have Deeds for land in north cyprus.

i've heard various things from different people about claiming compensation...etc and i was wondering if someone can give me advice on what i can do with the deeds we have.

Thank you

If you want to sell your property in the occupied at 1/10th of it's real value there are many ways you can do it...
The most stupid go to the so called "property commission" of course.

Pyro,

Is it possible for a GC who owns property in the North, and holds the deeds in their hands, to sell this property to another GC in the South. Basically what I'm asking is, are there GC buyers in the RoC of GC land in the North, who will pay less for the land's true value, but hope to make a gain, if and when there is a settlement. Call it a investment of "slow interest earning account" of some sorts.

Can this not solve the problem with those who wish to sell their property to get some money, that they desperately need, if they not wish to go through the "property commission" in the North.

Is this action possible.

[Pyrpolizer]

I haven't heard of such a case Kikapu.
Actually the RoC refuses to transfer ownership of ANY GC owned land in the northern part, irrespective to whom it is sold or whom it belongs.
Furthermore the RoC just left the refugees on their fate all these years. I know first hand. Just recently (when everybody got rich on the expense of refugees including the government itself) they threw some cramps around. Too late I would say.

The funny thing is they voted a law saying GC refugee properties are elligible for mortgage and not even one Bank ever accepted those deeds for mortgage. If it were like you said (to exploit the matter by opportunists) then the Banks would be the first to do it (by accepting those deeds for mortgage) don't you think?

[humanist]

Kikapu you pose a good question there, I wonder about ethical issues that might prop up. However it is a good risk for someone with some spare cash. The problem though is the racist regime in the north and it ethnic cleansing frensy that may not allow that to happen as their aim is to have every other race buring land but their own compatriots and rightful owners.

I am fast becoming very dispondednd of any settlement and furthermore have less and less trust in the Turkish speaking Cypriot leadership, esecially when I read articles about Maronite Cypriots not having the right to pass down their property to their descendants. What a barbaric racist rule of law.

I am trully believeing that true Cypriots of Turkish speaking background have all migrated o/s as they could not stand the injustice of the leadership in the occupied areas.

[Kifeas]

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[Pyrpolizer]

Kikapu you pose a good question there, I wonder about ethical issues that might prop up. However it is a good risk for someone with some spare cash. The problem though is the racist regime in the north and it ethnic cleansing frensy that may not allow that to happen as their aim is to have every other race buring land but their own compatriots and rightful owners.

I am fast becoming very dispondednd of any settlement and furthermore have less and less trust in the Turkish speaking Cypriot leadership, esecially when I read articles about Maronite Cypriots not having the right to pass down their property to their descendants. What a barbaric racist rule of law.

I am trully believeing that true Cypriots of Turkish speaking background have all migrated o/s as they could not stand the injustice of the leadership in the occupied areas.

Don't forget who was ruling the TCs all these years humanist. Denktashes and Eroglus.
In my opinion Talat had nothing to do with the Anan plan either, he was too new there, others from Turkey did the job.

I beleive there are still enough decent TCs, but it seems everybody including Talat cannot do anything. Someone else pulls the strings.

[Strahd]

Hello everyone, i just wanted to ask for some advice about the deeds we have.

My grandparents are Greek Cypriots and they have Deeds for land in north cyprus.

i've heard various things from different people about claiming compensation...etc and i was wondering if someone can give me advice on what i can do with the deeds we have.

Thank you

If you want to sell your property in the occupied at 1/10th of it's real value there are many ways you can do it...
The most stupid go to the so called "property commission" of course.

Pyro,

Is it possible for a GC who owns property in the North, and holds the deeds in their hands, to sell this property to another GC in the South. Basically what I'm asking is, are there GC buyers in the RoC of GC land in the North, who will pay less for the land's true value, but hope to make a gain, if and when there is a settlement. Call it a investment of "slow interest earning account" of some sorts.

Can this not solve the problem with those who wish to sell their property to get some money, that they desperately need, if they not wish to go through the "property commission" in the North.

Is this action possible.

Yes it is possible to sell the deeds to any person that is entitled to buy land in the RoC. Not only GCs. The same can happen for TCs who own land in the south. I heard of many cases that this has happened with all the lawful procedures.

The risk is how would the pseudo authorities take the fact that eg. a Brittish citizen has the deeds of some land that they have already been developing illegally.

Hmmm now that i see it this could be a good way of bringing their whole infrastructure down...