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One third of GC's prefer partition

Postby iceman » Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:19 pm

Sooooo..by the look of the poll results,slowly we are getting there..

One third of Greek Cypriots would prefer partition
By Jean Christou

ONE THIRD of Greek Cypriots would like to see the two sides separated while half want reunification, a new poll published yesterday said.

Fifty per cent of those polled believe a solution will be either two states or a continuation of the status quo.

According to the survey carried out in March by Noverna, on behalf of the Institute for Social and Political Studies, 70 per cent of Greek Cypriots over the entire political spectrum believe time was working against Greek Cypriots and instead was favouring Turkish Cypriots.

Nearly 40 per cent of those polled feel very or rather optimistic about future developments while 57 per cent feel pessimistic. Most pessimistic were in the 18-15 age group, while most of the optimists were refugees and people who voted against the Annan plan.

“The great degree of pessimism is probably linked to the impression that we are a small country with no influence,” said Haris Papageorgiou, the Executive Director of Noverna.

As for the “latest developments in the Cyprus problem”, 48 per cent said nothing had changed since 2006. In fact one quarter said things were worse but 23 per cent said there had been positive developments.

A massive 68 per cent of Greek Cypriots said the Cyprus problem affected their lives and 82 per cent said they were concerned about what kind of solution would be found.

People over 65 were most concerned about a solution while younger people were less concerned.

Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2007

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=32861&cat_id=1
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:30 pm

One third of Greek Cypriots would prefer partition


That means the de facto partition as we have today as opposed to "solutions" similar to the Annan plan.

It doesn't mean they prefer partition over a true unification and it doesn't mean those people support the legalization of the pseudo state.

Most of those few GCs that really support an official partition, would support it only with an 18%-82% (or about that) land distribution.
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Postby cypezokyli » Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:39 pm

Piratis wrote:
One third of Greek Cypriots would prefer partition


That means the de facto partition as we have today as opposed to "solutions" similar to the Annan plan.

It doesn't mean they prefer partition over a true unification and it doesn't mean those people support the legalization of the pseudo state.

Most of those few GCs that really support an official partition, would support it only with an 18%-82% (or about that) land distribution.


i dont think th question was put the way you claim.

may i ask you from where you draw this conclusion ?
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Postby bigOz » Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:52 pm

Piratis wrote:
One third of Greek Cypriots would prefer partition


That means the de facto partition as we have today as opposed to "solutions" similar to the Annan plan.

It doesn't mean they prefer partition over a true unification and it doesn't mean those people support the legalization of the pseudo state.

Most of those few GCs that really support an official partition, would support it only with an 18%-82% (or about that) land distribution.

What part of the quote are you in denial of? It is what TCs have been trying to explain to you all this, time and warning you of the consequences of a "no solution " attitude! You are still refusing to see where the whole thing is heading!

Read very carefully what it says in th equote
Fifty per cent of those polled believe a solution will be either two states or a continuation of the status quo.

According to the survey carried out in March by Noverna, on behalf of the Institute for Social and Political Studies, 70 per cent of Greek Cypriots over the entire political spectrum believe time was working against Greek Cypriots and instead was favouring Turkish Cypriots.

What part of it is it that supports your opinion above?
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:56 pm

may i ask you from where you draw this conclusion ?


From the people that I know.

I know many that would say "Better to continue separate than solutions like Annan plan" but non of those same people would want recognition of the pseudo state with the current land distribution while a few of them would accept an official partition with a proportional land distribution.

If you have a different experience tell us. Do you know any GCs that want an official partition with the current land distribution?
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:58 pm

What part of the quote are you in denial of? It is what TCs have been trying to explain to you all this, time and warning you of the consequences of a "no solution " attitude! You are still refusing to see where the whole thing is heading!


Where the whole thing is heading is nowhere. The current status will continue until something important will change in the balance of power.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:58 pm

iceman wrote:Sooooo..by the look of the poll results,slowly we are getting there..


The probability that the TC's will become extinct is far higher than that of anyone legally attaining any portion of Cyprus so that’s what you should really be worrying about.

Regardless of who comes to power the RoC has a predetermined policy for the Cyprus problem and is expected to be followed to a “T” and primarily includes…

Not one inch of Cypriot land compromised.
Not a single refugee losing their land/home.
Not a single uninvited soldier to remain on Cypriot territory.
No dissolution of the constitution.

Good luck surviving what's to come.
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Re: One third of GC's prefer partition

Postby DT. » Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:06 pm

iceman wrote:Sooooo..by the look of the poll results,slowly we are getting there..

One third of Greek Cypriots would prefer partition
By Jean Christou

ONE THIRD of Greek Cypriots would like to see the two sides separated while half want reunification, a new poll published yesterday said.

Fifty per cent of those polled believe a solution will be either two states or a continuation of the status quo.

According to the survey carried out in March by Noverna, on behalf of the Institute for Social and Political Studies, 70 per cent of Greek Cypriots over the entire political spectrum believe time was working against Greek Cypriots and instead was favouring Turkish Cypriots.

Nearly 40 per cent of those polled feel very or rather optimistic about future developments while 57 per cent feel pessimistic. Most pessimistic were in the 18-15 age group, while most of the optimists were refugees and people who voted against the Annan plan.

“The great degree of pessimism is probably linked to the impression that we are a small country with no influence,” said Haris Papageorgiou, the Executive Director of Noverna.

As for the “latest developments in the Cyprus problem”, 48 per cent said nothing had changed since 2006. In fact one quarter said things were worse but 23 per cent said there had been positive developments.

A massive 68 per cent of Greek Cypriots said the Cyprus problem affected their lives and 82 per cent said they were concerned about what kind of solution would be found.

People over 65 were most concerned about a solution while younger people were less concerned.

Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2007

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=32861&cat_id=1


does it really not bother you that the TC population will become a smaller minority and possibly face extinction in cyprus if this keeps up? WHy are you bothered so much with us? Maybe it is what we believe maybe its not..whats amazing is that you want to prove us wrong soo much that you're not bothered with the real dangers and immediate risks facing your community right now? There are thousands of mainland settlers arriving continously...soon you will be a turkish suburb.

We will lose out as well don;'t get me wrong but we won't lose more than what we've already lost. Worst comes to worst we stay as we are and continue to prosper on this side of the island. What is the TC plan?

Seriously mate, don't worry about us and start mobilising on your side, get together with the TC's, action somehting...anything!! cause you're facing extinction and you're still worried about what we think.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:30 pm

Get Real! wrote:
iceman wrote:Sooooo..by the look of the poll results,slowly we are getting there..


The probability that the TC's will become extinct is far higher than that of anyone legally attaining any portion of Cyprus so that’s what you should really be worrying about.

Regardless of who comes to power the RoC has a predetermined policy for the Cyprus problem and is expected to be followed to a “T” and primarily includes…

Not one inch of Cypriot land compromised.
Not a single refugee losing their land/home.
Not a single uninvited soldier to remain on Cypriot territory.
No dissolution of the constitution.

Good luck surviving what's to come.


GR, is this how you see things from your side of the fence? What is changing? What is it we will have problem surviving?

Not one inch of Cypriot land compromised. Soon the developers will be offering "buy one get one free"Not a single refugee losing their land/home. After 33 years I would say most of these refugees are not as optimistic as you are.Not a single uninvited soldier to remain on Cypriot territory. The ball is in your court. No dissolution of the constitution. What the 1960 constitution you pissed and shit on?
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Re: One third of GC's prefer partition

Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:40 pm

DT. wrote:
iceman wrote:Sooooo..by the look of the poll results,slowly we are getting there..

One third of Greek Cypriots would prefer partition
By Jean Christou

ONE THIRD of Greek Cypriots would like to see the two sides separated while half want reunification, a new poll published yesterday said.

Fifty per cent of those polled believe a solution will be either two states or a continuation of the status quo.

According to the survey carried out in March by Noverna, on behalf of the Institute for Social and Political Studies, 70 per cent of Greek Cypriots over the entire political spectrum believe time was working against Greek Cypriots and instead was favouring Turkish Cypriots.

Nearly 40 per cent of those polled feel very or rather optimistic about future developments while 57 per cent feel pessimistic. Most pessimistic were in the 18-15 age group, while most of the optimists were refugees and people who voted against the Annan plan.

“The great degree of pessimism is probably linked to the impression that we are a small country with no influence,” said Haris Papageorgiou, the Executive Director of Noverna.

As for the “latest developments in the Cyprus problem”, 48 per cent said nothing had changed since 2006. In fact one quarter said things were worse but 23 per cent said there had been positive developments.

A massive 68 per cent of Greek Cypriots said the Cyprus problem affected their lives and 82 per cent said they were concerned about what kind of solution would be found.

People over 65 were most concerned about a solution while younger people were less concerned.

Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2007

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=32861&cat_id=1


does it really not bother you that the TC population will become a smaller minority and possibly face extinction in cyprus if this keeps up? WHy are you bothered so much with us? Maybe it is what we believe maybe its not..whats amazing is that you want to prove us wrong soo much that you're not bothered with the real dangers and immediate risks facing your community right now? There are thousands of mainland settlers arriving continously...soon you will be a turkish suburb.

We will lose out as well don;'t get me wrong but we won't lose more than what we've already lost. Worst comes to worst we stay as we are and continue to prosper on this side of the island. What is the TC plan?

Seriously mate, don't worry about us and start mobilising on your side, get together with the TC's, action somehting...anything!! cause you're facing extinction and you're still worried about what we think.


DT, rejection is a very hard thing to accept. We have been rejected by the GCs since time began. Has there ever been any goodwill shown to the TCs by your community?

At every opportunity you have shown your hatred towards my community, so what did you expect.

Of course we want to keep our identity, of course it is a fact that we have more in common with our GC cousins than mainland Turks. But under the circumstances we are left with no other choice but to embrace Turkey, turning away from them would mean the total extinction of us anyway.

The ball is in your court. We've done all we could possibly do.
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