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Postby Sotos » Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:22 pm

I have also always argued why the pilot cannot do a "touch and go" as suggested by Kikapu. For all intents and purposes you are "landing" as required.


You are always ready to find ways to do illegalities I see. Were you born a crook or you became after?
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:10 pm

mrfromng wrote:I have been on many night flights to Ercan without stopping in Turkey. If there are no passengers disembarking in Turkey the plane will fly straight on to Ercan.

I would say this happens at least 4/5 times a month.

I have also always argued why the pilot cannot do a "touch and go" as suggested by Kikapu. For all intents and purposes you are "landing" as required.


Mrfromng,

Listen, you fly a lot to Cyprus from the UK, so please help me to understand something.

The flight is first destined to go to Istanbul first, or which ever other destination in Turkey, therefore, passengers who book on line or from travelling Agency, book on this flight to Turkey first, then the flight is sent to Ercan. I'm amazed that no body gets off a flight in Turkey, when the flight was scheduled to land in Turkey in the first place..??

Or is it the case, that the flight is destined to Ercan, but makes a stop- over in Turkey first. This would makes sense, as to why there are a lot of Ercan bound passengers. If this is the case though, then I do not think this flight will show up on any online booking companies, since it is not allowed. I tried one time to check for prices last year to Ercan on Turkish Airlines, but would not give me any prices to Ercan from Zurich. I was instructed to call Turkish Airlines.

I wonder how many times this may happen, but suppose the flight to "Ercan" is mostly Ercan bound and one or two passengers are destined to Turkey, the airline just refuses the Turkey bound passengers from this flight, and re book them onto any other flight going to Turkey, with a free meal coupon for their troubles, just to save time and money, by not having to land in Turkey, just for few people.

Anyway, I was just curious how the whole thing works. There are definitely ways to circumvent the rules a little, as long as the flights are operated by TCA, but I do not think any other airlines in the industry would try to pull any "fast ones" like that, not even Turkish Airlines.

When ever my mother goes to Cyprus, once a year, she just sits on the plane in Istanbul while passengers come and go, before heading to Ercan. She has a hard time walking at 80 years old, so this has been the best solution for her.

As for the "Touch & Go", I do not think the insurance would cover such manoeuvres.

It would be fun though, for those who likes "Roller Coaster Rides". :lol: :lol:
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Postby MR-from-NG » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:34 pm

Kikapu wrote:
mrfromng wrote:I have been on many night flights to Ercan without stopping in Turkey. If there are no passengers disembarking in Turkey the plane will fly straight on to Ercan.

I would say this happens at least 4/5 times a month.

I have also always argued why the pilot cannot do a "touch and go" as suggested by Kikapu. For all intents and purposes you are "landing" as required.


Mrfromng,

Listen, you fly a lot to Cyprus from the UK, so please help me to understand something.

The flight is first destined to go to Istanbul first, or which ever other destination in Turkey, therefore, passengers who book on line or from travelling Agency, book on this flight to Turkey first, then the flight is sent to Ercan. I'm amazed that no body gets off a flight in Turkey, when the flight was scheduled to land in Turkey in the first place..??

Or is it the case, that the flight is destined to Ercan, but makes a stop- over in Turkey first. This would makes sense, as to why there are a lot of Ercan bound passengers. If this is the case though, then I do not think this flight will show up on any online booking companies, since it is not allowed. I tried one time to check for prices last year to Ercan on Turkish Airlines, but would not give me any prices to Ercan from Zurich. I was instructed to call Turkish Airlines.

I wonder how many times this may happen, but suppose the flight to "Ercan" is mostly Ercan bound and one or two passengers are destined to Turkey, the airline just refuses the Turkey bound passengers from this flight, and re book them onto any other flight going to Turkey, with a free meal coupon for their troubles, just to save time and money, by not having to land in Turkey, just for few people.

Anyway, I was just curious how the whole thing works. There are definitely ways to circumvent the rules a little, as long as the flights are operated by TCA, but I do not think any other airlines in the industry would try to pull any "fast ones" like that, not even Turkish Airlines.

When ever my mother goes to Cyprus, once a year, she just sits on the plane in Istanbul while passengers come and go, before heading to Ercan. She has a hard time walking at 80 years old, so this has been the best solution for her.

As for the "Touch & Go", I do not think the insurance would cover such manoeuvres.

It would be fun though, for those who likes "Roller Coaster Rides". :lol: :lol:

Kikapu,
Flights are destined for Ercan but for legal reasons the flight information screens at Heathrow or Stansted will in fact give the name of the City in Turkey which the plane will make its stopover.

This would be difficult for 1st time travellers to TRNC to understand but it is something we TCs have all mastered.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:35 pm

Sotos wrote:
I have also always argued why the pilot cannot do a "touch and go" as suggested by Kikapu. For all intents and purposes you are "landing" as required.


You are always ready to find ways to do illegalities I see. Were you born a crook or you became after?


Were you born an idiot or do you take evening classes?
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:42 pm

mrfromng wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
mrfromng wrote:I have been on many night flights to Ercan without stopping in Turkey. If there are no passengers disembarking in Turkey the plane will fly straight on to Ercan.

I would say this happens at least 4/5 times a month.

I have also always argued why the pilot cannot do a "touch and go" as suggested by Kikapu. For all intents and purposes you are "landing" as required.


Mrfromng,

Listen, you fly a lot to Cyprus from the UK, so please help me to understand something.

The flight is first destined to go to Istanbul first, or which ever other destination in Turkey, therefore, passengers who book on line or from travelling Agency, book on this flight to Turkey first, then the flight is sent to Ercan. I'm amazed that no body gets off a flight in Turkey, when the flight was scheduled to land in Turkey in the first place..??

Or is it the case, that the flight is destined to Ercan, but makes a stop- over in Turkey first. This would makes sense, as to why there are a lot of Ercan bound passengers. If this is the case though, then I do not think this flight will show up on any online booking companies, since it is not allowed. I tried one time to check for prices last year to Ercan on Turkish Airlines, but would not give me any prices to Ercan from Zurich. I was instructed to call Turkish Airlines.

I wonder how many times this may happen, but suppose the flight to "Ercan" is mostly Ercan bound and one or two passengers are destined to Turkey, the airline just refuses the Turkey bound passengers from this flight, and re book them onto any other flight going to Turkey, with a free meal coupon for their troubles, just to save time and money, by not having to land in Turkey, just for few people.

Anyway, I was just curious how the whole thing works. There are definitely ways to circumvent the rules a little, as long as the flights are operated by TCA, but I do not think any other airlines in the industry would try to pull any "fast ones" like that, not even Turkish Airlines.

When ever my mother goes to Cyprus, once a year, she just sits on the plane in Istanbul while passengers come and go, before heading to Ercan. She has a hard time walking at 80 years old, so this has been the best solution for her.

As for the "Touch & Go", I do not think the insurance would cover such manoeuvres.

It would be fun though, for those who likes "Roller Coaster Rides". :lol: :lol:

Kikapu,
Flights are destined for Ercan but for legal reasons the flight information screens at Heathrow or Stansted will in fact give the name of the City in Turkey which the plane will make its stopover.

This would be difficult for 1st time travellers to TRNC to understand but it is something we TCs have all mastered.


If that is the case mrfromng, can these flight be booked online, or only from Travel Agencies.

Are your examples for both TCA and Turkish Airlines.??
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Postby MR-from-NG » Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:17 pm

Kikapu wrote:
mrfromng wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
mrfromng wrote:I have been on many night flights to Ercan without stopping in Turkey. If there are no passengers disembarking in Turkey the plane will fly straight on to Ercan.

I would say this happens at least 4/5 times a month.

I have also always argued why the pilot cannot do a "touch and go" as suggested by Kikapu. For all intents and purposes you are "landing" as required.


Mrfromng,

Listen, you fly a lot to Cyprus from the UK, so please help me to understand something.

The flight is first destined to go to Istanbul first, or which ever other destination in Turkey, therefore, passengers who book on line or from travelling Agency, book on this flight to Turkey first, then the flight is sent to Ercan. I'm amazed that no body gets off a flight in Turkey, when the flight was scheduled to land in Turkey in the first place..??

Or is it the case, that the flight is destined to Ercan, but makes a stop- over in Turkey first. This would makes sense, as to why there are a lot of Ercan bound passengers. If this is the case though, then I do not think this flight will show up on any online booking companies, since it is not allowed. I tried one time to check for prices last year to Ercan on Turkish Airlines, but would not give me any prices to Ercan from Zurich. I was instructed to call Turkish Airlines.

I wonder how many times this may happen, but suppose the flight to "Ercan" is mostly Ercan bound and one or two passengers are destined to Turkey, the airline just refuses the Turkey bound passengers from this flight, and re book them onto any other flight going to Turkey, with a free meal coupon for their troubles, just to save time and money, by not having to land in Turkey, just for few people.

Anyway, I was just curious how the whole thing works. There are definitely ways to circumvent the rules a little, as long as the flights are operated by TCA, but I do not think any other airlines in the industry would try to pull any "fast ones" like that, not even Turkish Airlines.

When ever my mother goes to Cyprus, once a year, she just sits on the plane in Istanbul while passengers come and go, before heading to Ercan. She has a hard time walking at 80 years old, so this has been the best solution for her.

As for the "Touch & Go", I do not think the insurance would cover such manoeuvres.

It would be fun though, for those who likes "Roller Coaster Rides". :lol: :lol:

Kikapu,
Flights are destined for Ercan but for legal reasons the flight information screens at Heathrow or Stansted will in fact give the name of the City in Turkey which the plane will make its stopover.

This would be difficult for 1st time travellers to TRNC to understand but it is something we TCs have all mastered.


If that is the case mrfromng, can these flight be booked online, or only from Travel Agencies.

Are your examples for both TCA and Turkish Airlines.??


Kikapu,

Unfortunately we do not have the luxury of "on line booking" for our flights to Ercan. You simply book direct with Turkish Airlines, Cyprus Turkish Airlines or Pegasus or local travel agents.

I always use a company called Green Island and they always manage to get me the best price possible. I will be travelling to the TRNC on the 18th and will try Pegasus. Have heard a lot of good things about this company and the fact that the Koc family is involved gives one just that bit of extra confidence.
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:27 pm

mrfromng wrote:
Kikapu,

Unfortunately we do not have the luxury of "on line booking" for our flights to Ercan. You simply book direct with Turkish Airlines, Cyprus Turkish Airlines or Pegasus or local travel agents.

I always use a company called Green Island and they always manage to get me the best price possible. I will be travelling to the TRNC on the 18th and will try Pegasus. Have heard a lot of good things about this company and the fact that the Koc family is involved gives one just that bit of extra confidence.


Thanks mrfromng, no more questions.

I think I have taken "KOC" buses to travel from Istanbul-Ankara-Istanbul in the old days, 8 hours each way, to connect to flight to London, specially in winter, where Ankara Airport will be snowed in, so it was better to use the buses for the last part of the trip, not to mention of course, in the old days, you would have to be a "suicidal idiot" to travel on Turkish Domestic Routes by air. The last 20+ years have been a major improvement, I have to say.
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Postby DT. » Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:39 pm

Still don't get why you guys just don't fly to Larnaca. I go to the UK twice a month and the Cyprus Airways flight (apart from being a much more enjoyable experience with a larger plane A330 and personal entertainment devices) is always FULL of TC's heading back to the north.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:56 pm

DT. wrote:Still don't get why you guys just don't fly to Larnaca. I go to the UK twice a month and the Cyprus Airways flight (apart from being a much more enjoyable experience with a larger plane A330 and personal entertainment devices) is always FULL of TC's heading back to the north.


A matter of loyalty and principle DT. Just like a majority of GCs refusing to cross over to the TRNC because they refuse to show their passport to our authorities.

Please do not interpret this as me being a hater of everything Greek. Ror all its worth I visit more Greek shops for my day to day requirements in North london than Turkish shops.
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Postby DT. » Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:01 pm

mrfromng wrote:
DT. wrote:Still don't get why you guys just don't fly to Larnaca. I go to the UK twice a month and the Cyprus Airways flight (apart from being a much more enjoyable experience with a larger plane A330 and personal entertainment devices) is always FULL of TC's heading back to the north.


A matter of loyalty and principle DT. Just like a majority of GCs refusing to cross over to the TRNC because they refuse to show their passport to our authorities.

Please do not interpret this as me being a hater of everything Greek. Ror all its worth I visit more Greek shops for my day to day requirements in North london than Turkish shops.


no worries mrfromng..wasn't fishing for anything.
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