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[Nikephoros]

Angastiniotis is another leftist ideologue and not a serious researcher. Just another "it was all fanatics on both sides" preacher, which the Cypriot Cypriots are masters at.

All his documentary ever proved is that after the date of the Turkish invasion you can find Turkish Cypriots in 2005 and onward to claim a small massacre in Tochni AFTER THE TURKISH INVASION in interviews!

So by promoting his work Turks prove they are liars and their official excuse cannot even be supported by interviewing Turkish Cypriots after some 30 years:
http://www.trncpresidency.org/about_trnc/breakdown.html
"On 15 July 1974 Greek troops assembled in Cyprus for the purpose of overthrowing Archbishop Makarios and making Nicos Sampson the new president. A coup d’etat was started and they began to kill not only fellow Greek Cypriots but also Turkish Cypriots. The Turkish Cypriots asked for help from the guarantor states, but only Turkey responded. On 20 July 1974 motherland Turkey sent troops to Cyprus in order to save the lives of the Turkish Cypriots. This intervention by Turkey, called a “peace operation” by the Turkish Cypriots, was legal according to Article IV of the Treaty of Guarantee."

What a bunch of liars. To think so many turncoat Greek Cypriots(now Cypriot Cypriots) want to foster brotherhood with them instead of counter their lies and ploys, makes your bowls turn.

[bigOz]

Angastiniotis is another leftist ideologue and not a serious researcher. Just another "it was all fanatics on both sides" preacher, which the Cypriot Cypriots are masters at.

All his documentary ever proved is that after the date of the Turkish invasion you can find Turkish Cypriots in 2005 and onward to claim a small massacre in Tochni AFTER THE TURKISH INVASION in interviews!

So by promoting his work Turks prove they are liars and their official excuse cannot even be supported by interviewing Turkish Cypriots after some 30 years:
http://www.trncpresidency.org/about_trnc/breakdown.html
"On 15 July 1974 Greek troops assembled in Cyprus for the purpose of overthrowing Archbishop Makarios and making Nicos Sampson the new president. A coup d’etat was started and they began to kill not only fellow Greek Cypriots but also Turkish Cypriots. The Turkish Cypriots asked for help from the guarantor states, but only Turkey responded. On 20 July 1974 motherland Turkey sent troops to Cyprus in order to save the lives of the Turkish Cypriots. This intervention by Turkey, called a “peace operation” by the Turkish Cypriots, was legal according to Article IV of the Treaty of Guarantee."

What a bunch of liars. To think so many turncoat Greek Cypriots(now Cypriot Cypriots) want to foster brotherhood with them instead of counter their lies and ploys, makes your bowls turn.

Whatever the case may be it still does not change the fact that Kikapus is abigger liar than any other:

I still say you are a liar because I can still remember everything in detail about what I saw when I was 10 years old and so does everyone else in this forum. I believe it is just a case of covering your ass just in case someone asks details of Kaymakli to you. Well I AM prepared to prove you a liar and here is a list of why:

1. You claim you lived in "Kucuk Kaymakli" that was a town South of Nicosia! What A LOAD OF CRAP! Kucuk Kaymakli was always and is East to North East of Nicosia! It was not a town but a part of Nicosia nothing separating them!

2. You claim you went to the Turkish School in Kaymakli and you wore black robes with a collar! What a load of crap! I went to the same school as from 1966 and what you are referring to is what the girls wore - a black dress with a white collar! Boys never wore any such thing when I was there - was you a transvestite by any chance?

3. I also remember the powdered milk that was boiled in large pots and served to us every morning with buttered bread. We clearly attended the same school because there were no other in Kaymakli at the time. We were told it was AMERICAN aid not sent by Kennedy - you frigging liar! Kennedy was shot dead 22 November 1963, before the Cyprus fighting started!

4. You claim "The university building that we were "prisoned" in had a 2-3 story building on one side of the court yard, while it had a one level building adjacent to". Were there any universities in Cyprus during 1964?

5. You falsely claim "In one case, where a mother and her children were murdered in cold blood in their bath tab one of the Kaymakli's. There was a picture showing the dead bodies in a blood stained bathtub walls. Even till today, when ever I think of these people being killed in the bathtub, I seem to focus on a particular house that was on the way to my school. I don't know if that was the house where the murders took place or not, but I seem to get drawn to it."

The murders in the bath tub with the famous photographs you mention above, never took place in Kaymakli but it was on the Western outskirts of Nicosia on the other side of town, in an area called Koskluciftlik!

You are a liar and a bloody fake Kikapu and you've just been EXPOSED as such! This is only after I read just one post of yours! Well, I'll tell you what - now I am on your case! Any TC who is not sure about the content of your posts please PM them to me and I'll point to more lies by KIKAPU the FAKE!

[Nikephoros]

What does that have to do with my post?

Where is the proof of the mortal danger of Turkish Cypriots? The National Guard only received orders to attack all Turkish illegal traitor enclaves after the Turkish invasion. Hence the justification used by Turkey is nothing but a lie. Tony Angastiniotis confirms that the Turkish position is a lie since even he never interviewed any Turkish Cypriot claiming a massacre while the coup took place.

[Kikapu]

KIKAPU! I have never seen such a manipulating, fact twisting evil TC member as yourself in my life! You are full of shite mate! And your loving GC friends are still applauding you showing how desperate they are to maintain their "deny and lie" status. You are doing well in that department and I am absolutely sure that the Greek Cypriot Secret Service is rewarding you well for your efforts!

You argue "how come they never raped or killed us" - then this shows up in the same story you refer to:

My pregnant cousins husband was not amongst the returning trucks, and neither were many other men that had gone missing while we were kept as "prisoners". In fact he has never surfaced, and the cousin had a child without his father. She eventually accepted his doomed faith and moved on with her life and got remarried few years later. I have not seen her since.

Which one are we to believe? What you wrote then or what you write now?

Listen Dumbo! I actually lived in Kaymakli 1960-1963 and also what was left of Kaymakli after the war during 1966-1969. My friends uncle "RUSO", who was a sports teacher at high school was one of the TC residents who was dodging bullets and assisting civilians escape to Turkish part of Nicosia - he actually got shot while doing that and was a legend in Kaymakli - Do you remember him?

Where we subsequently lived in Kaymakli (after living all our property and home in Kyrenia in a rush to Nicosia's safety), across the road were old wheat silos and stores that were hastily converted to a refugee centre. My mother used to feel sorry for them and invite many of them around for breakfast and coffees. These were around 250-300 members made up of wives and children of men who disappeared during the attacks of 1963-64!

Men who disappeared in Kymakli were not unique! In fact, near enough 1000 TC men disappeared leaving behind what must have been at least 3-4000 family members who never saw them again to this day. There has been no explanation to their whereabouts until now. The same thing happens in 1974, and 1600 GCs are missing in a similar way. How can we be sure that it was not EOKA repeating their atrocities - this time on their people? After all, rivers of blood were flowing in the Greek side because of fights between Makarios supporters and EOKA!

I still say you are a liar because I can still remember everything in detail about what I saw when I was 10 years old and so does everyone else in this forum. I believe it is just a case of covering your ass just in case someone asks details of Kaymakli to you. Well I AM prepared to prove you a liar and here is a list of why:

1. You claim you lived in "Kucuk Kaymakli" that was a town South of Nicosia! What A LOAD OF CRAP! Kucuk Kaymakli was always and is East to North East of Nicosia! It was not a town but a part of Nicosia nothing separating them!

2. You claim you went to the Turkish School in Kaymakli and you wore black robes with a collar! What a load of crap! I went to the same school as from 1966 and what you are referring to is what the girls wore - a black dress with a white collar! Boys never wore any such thing when I was there - was you a transvestite by any chance?

3. I also remember the powdered milk that was boiled in large pots and served to us every morning with buttered bread. We clearly attended the same school because there were no other in Kaymakli at the time. We were told it was AMERICAN aid not sent by Kennedy - you frigging liar! Kennedy was shot dead 22 November 1963, before the Cyprus fighting started!

4. You claim "The university building that we were "prisoned" in had a 2-3 story building on one side of the court yard, while it had a one level building adjacent to". Were there any universities in Cyprus during 1964?

5. You falsely claim "In one case, where a mother and her children were murdered in cold blood in their bath tab one of the Kaymakli's. There was a picture showing the dead bodies in a blood stained bathtub walls. Even till today, when ever I think of these people being killed in the bathtub, I seem to focus on a particular house that was on the way to my school. I don't know if that was the house where the murders took place or not, but I seem to get drawn to it."

The murders in the bath tub with the famous photographs you mention above, never took place in Kaymakli but it was on the Western outskirts of Nicosia on the other side of town, in an area called Koskluciftlik!

You are a liar and a bloody fake Kikapu and you've just been EXPOSED as such! This is only after I read just one post of yours! Well, I'll tell you what - now I am on your case! Any TC who is not sure about the content of your posts please PM them to me and I'll point to more lies by KIKAPU the FAKE!

Do you know what, your family was always right and still are when they said (as you put it) "I was always being teased, like, 'we're going to have a hard time finding a wife for you" or being called a "mouse'." Except they were wrong with one thing. You are not a mouse but a dirty RAT!

Well, well, well. You have gone from being "BigOz" to Biggest Tosser in just three short weeks. I'll make it easy on me, and just call you BigToss.

I know that you're pissed at me for exposing your lying Fat Ass, the fact is, you are just another Propagandist who is on the forum with a mission. I spotted you from the very beginning and now you have been exposed. You said that you were here to teach flying, and yet for the past 3 weeks, you have kept nice " office hours" on the forum, which also includes your lunch breaks. If I'm not mistaken, you were posting the same hours as the "TRNC" office in London. Your poor flight students must be wondering where the hell you are all day long.!!

So BigToss, you have finally managed to find someone to beat up on. You picked on a "8 year old kids' view of events 43 years ago" against your own views as a much older persons, but you know something BigToss, even this 8 year old kid is going to kick your Fat Ass, because he can. He can do it, because he is telling the truth. If you are going to nick pick on very minor details because the story is told from a 8 year old kids recollections during the time of war and before that happened 43 years ago, then I would say go ahead and celebrate, but you are still going to get your Fat Ass kicked by him by the end of his post.

I know you have to leave your "TRNC's Propaganda Office in 1/12 hours and they are not open for the weekend, but if you would do me a favour and send me your age, where you were born and all the dates where you lived and how long. For example, how long and when did you live in Cyprus and the same for the UK or else where. I need this information to be able to answer your questions to me. The sooner you get them to me, the sooner I can start writing, so don't fuck around with any questions, just do it. I'm not going to rush myself either, just to fit in with your schedule. Tell them that you will lock up, and stay a little longer.

So get cracking with what I asked for.

[BirKibrisli]

Don't waste your time with such nonsense,dear Kikapu...
You do not have to prove anything to anyone,let alone try to justify the recollection of an 8 year old who went through extreme trauma so long ago...Take it as a badge of honour that so many people are trying to destroy your identity and your reputation...It shows that your stories have really touched a raw nerve,and there will be no rest for some till they discredit you at least in their own eyes...

[bigOz]

KIKAPU! I have never seen such a manipulating, fact twisting evil TC member as yourself in my life! You are full of shite mate! And your loving GC friends are still applauding you showing how desperate they are to maintain their "deny and lie" status. You are doing well in that department and I am absolutely sure that the Greek Cypriot Secret Service is rewarding you well for your efforts!

You argue "how come they never raped or killed us" - then this shows up in the same story you refer to:

My pregnant cousins husband was not amongst the returning trucks, and neither were many other men that had gone missing while we were kept as "prisoners". In fact he has never surfaced, and the cousin had a child without his father. She eventually accepted his doomed faith and moved on with her life and got remarried few years later. I have not seen her since.

Which one are we to believe? What you wrote then or what you write now?

Listen Dumbo! I actually lived in Kaymakli 1960-1963 and also what was left of Kaymakli after the war during 1966-1969. My friends uncle "RUSO", who was a sports teacher at high school was one of the TC residents who was dodging bullets and assisting civilians escape to Turkish part of Nicosia - he actually got shot while doing that and was a legend in Kaymakli - Do you remember him?

Where we subsequently lived in Kaymakli (after living all our property and home in Kyrenia in a rush to Nicosia's safety), across the road were old wheat silos and stores that were hastily converted to a refugee centre. My mother used to feel sorry for them and invite many of them around for breakfast and coffees. These were around 250-300 members made up of wives and children of men who disappeared during the attacks of 1963-64!

Men who disappeared in Kymakli were not unique! In fact, near enough 1000 TC men disappeared leaving behind what must have been at least 3-4000 family members who never saw them again to this day. There has been no explanation to their whereabouts until now. The same thing happens in 1974, and 1600 GCs are missing in a similar way. How can we be sure that it was not EOKA repeating their atrocities - this time on their people? After all, rivers of blood were flowing in the Greek side because of fights between Makarios supporters and EOKA!

I still say you are a liar because I can still remember everything in detail about what I saw when I was 10 years old and so does everyone else in this forum. I believe it is just a case of covering your ass just in case someone asks details of Kaymakli to you. Well I AM prepared to prove you a liar and here is a list of why:

1. You claim you lived in "Kucuk Kaymakli" that was a town South of Nicosia! What A LOAD OF CRAP! Kucuk Kaymakli was always and is East to North East of Nicosia! It was not a town but a part of Nicosia nothing separating them!

2. You claim you went to the Turkish School in Kaymakli and you wore black robes with a collar! What a load of crap! I went to the same school as from 1966 and what you are referring to is what the girls wore - a black dress with a white collar! Boys never wore any such thing when I was there - was you a transvestite by any chance?

3. I also remember the powdered milk that was boiled in large pots and served to us every morning with buttered bread. We clearly attended the same school because there were no other in Kaymakli at the time. We were told it was AMERICAN aid not sent by Kennedy - you frigging liar! Kennedy was shot dead 22 November 1963, before the Cyprus fighting started!

4. You claim "The university building that we were "prisoned" in had a 2-3 story building on one side of the court yard, while it had a one level building adjacent to". Were there any universities in Cyprus during 1964?

5. You falsely claim "In one case, where a mother and her children were murdered in cold blood in their bath tab one of the Kaymakli's. There was a picture showing the dead bodies in a blood stained bathtub walls. Even till today, when ever I think of these people being killed in the bathtub, I seem to focus on a particular house that was on the way to my school. I don't know if that was the house where the murders took place or not, but I seem to get drawn to it."

The murders in the bath tub with the famous photographs you mention above, never took place in Kaymakli but it was on the Western outskirts of Nicosia on the other side of town, in an area called Koskluciftlik!

You are a liar and a bloody fake Kikapu and you've just been EXPOSED as such! This is only after I read just one post of yours! Well, I'll tell you what - now I am on your case! Any TC who is not sure about the content of your posts please PM them to me and I'll point to more lies by KIKAPU the FAKE!

Do you know what, your family was always right and still are when they said (as you put it) "I was always being teased, like, 'we're going to have a hard time finding a wife for you" or being called a "mouse'." Except they were wrong with one thing. You are not a mouse but a dirty RAT!

Well, well, well. You have gone from being "BigOz" to Biggest Tosser in just three short weeks. I'll make it easy on me, and just call you BigToss.

I know that you're pissed at me for exposing your lying Fat Ass, the fact is, you are just another Propagandist who is on the forum with a mission. I spotted you from the very beginning and now you have been exposed. You said that you were here to teach flying, and yet for the past 3 weeks, you have kept nice " office hours" on the forum, which also includes your lunch breaks. If I'm not mistaken, you were posting the same hours as the "TRNC" office in London. Your poor flight students must be wondering where the hell you are all day long.!!

So BigToss, you have finally managed to find someone to beat up on. You picked on a "8 year old kids' view of events 43 years ago" against your own views as a much older persons, but you know something BigToss, even this 8 year old kid is going to kick your Fat Ass, because he can. He can do it, because he is telling the truth. If you are going to nick pick on very minor details because the story is told from a 8 year old kids recollections during the time of war and before that happened 43 years ago, then I would say go ahead and celebrate, but you are still going to get your Fat Ass kicked by him by the end of his post.

I know you have to leave your "TRNC's Propaganda Office in 1/12 hours and they are not open for the weekend, but if you would do me a favour and send me your age, where you were born and all the dates where you lived and how long. For example, how long and when did you live in Cyprus and the same for the UK or else where. I need this information to be able to answer your questions to me. The sooner you get them to me, the sooner I can start writing, so don't fuck around with any questions, just do it. I'm not going to rush myself either, just to fit in with your schedule. Tell them that you will lock up, and stay a little longer.

So get cracking with what I asked for.

Listen you cockroach of a man! The admin of this forum know I am from UK, that is enough for your purposes. My profession and private details are not material for a discussion on a public forum - especially where fanatics and spies like you are in abundance!

Why should I or anyone else whose details you unashamedly keep asking for oblige you with anything. Or is it upsetting you you are not gathering enough info to get paid by your new found employees?

You already have my picture - why don't you post yours and we can meet at that London wedding of yours in person! Imagine you'll be with all your friends and family and I'll be all on my own! Perhaps we can both get to know who we really are in a face to face situation - are you for it?

No, I do not think so somehow, because you are a spineless fake, that I have proved so in the post above! A frigging liar and a slug that wriggles each time a little more salt is poured on! We were all 8 years old too once, but we do not go around making up lies and stories just to attract attention or to bank on some fake self-pitying story.

Have you no shame? Accept that you've been exposed and go stand against a wall or something! And stop sounding comical by asking stupid questions about other peoples private lives! Who gives fuck whether you believe them or not or what you think of their current position - I certainly don't, and I do not think anyone else does either! Now PISS OFF!

[Kikapu]

Don't waste your time with such nonsense,dear Kikapu...
You do not have to prove anything to anyone,let alone try to justify the recollection of an 8 year old who went through extreme trauma so long ago...Take it as a badge of honour that so many people are trying to destroy your identity and your reputation...It shows that your stories have really touched a raw nerve,and there will be no rest for some till they discredit you at least in their own eyes...

Thank you Brother Birkibrisli,

I know what these people all about Bir. I can smell their shit before they even take one. BigToss came in to help the needy, Zan and VP. He tried his "Good Cop" role and it did not work. I will speak the truth as much as it takes, and if these Nazis think they can shut me up, well they don't know who "KIKAPU" is. These people will lie for anything. I bet BigToss doesn't even teach flying, as to the reason why he has been avoiding my questions to him, regarding flying. He is just another "Private licenced pilot" which one can get very easily by putting in between 40-60 hours. I'm not knocking him for that, it is that, from day one he has put up a "front", and I've been calling him on it, and now they need a diversion.

They can divert all they want. He wants to argue about whether the food was sent by Kennedy or America. Oh, and I love the part where Big Toss said that, kennedy was shot November 22 1963 before the war which was Christmas, 1 month later, so how can Kennedy be sending food to us. Someone better tell Big Toss, that Kennedy was in office from 1960, so what was his pathetic point.

Let him send me his information first, then I'll respond to his pathetic questions. Shame on him, for picking on a [color=green]"8 year old kids and his world back in 1963"[/color], but this kid is going to kick BigToss's Big Fat Ass.

[bigOz]

Don't waste your time with such nonsense,dear Kikapu...
You do not have to prove anything to anyone,let alone try to justify the recollection of an 8 year old who went through extreme trauma so long ago...Take it as a badge of honour that so many people are trying to destroy your identity and your reputation...It shows that your stories have really touched a raw nerve,and there will be no rest for some till they discredit you at least in their own eyes...

Thank you Brother Birkibrisli,

I know what these people all about Bir. I can smell their shit before they even take one. BigToss came in to help the needy, Zan and VP. He tried his "Good Cop" role and it did not work. I will speak the truth as much as it takes, and if these Nazis think they can shut me up, well they don't know who "KIKAPU" is. These people will lie for anything. I bet BigToss doesn't even teach flying, as to the reason why he has been avoiding my questions to him, regarding flying. He is just another "Private licenced pilot" which one can get very easily by putting in between 40-60 hours. I'm not knocking him for that, it is that, from day one he has put up a "front", and I've been calling him on it, and now they need a diversion.

They can divert all they want. He wants to argue about whether the food was sent by Kennedy or America. Oh, and I love the part where Big Toss said that, kennedy was shot November 22 1963 before the war which was Christmas, 1 month later, so how can Kennedy be sending food to us. Someone better tell Big Toss, that Kennedy was in office from 1960, so what was his pathetic point.

Let him send me his information first, then I'll respond to his pathetic questions. Shame on him, for picking on a [color=green]"8 year old kids and his world back in 1963"[/color], but this kid is going to kick BigToss's Big Fat Ass.

So why are you replying to BK instead of taking up my offer you spineless rat! As I said before you can think what you like about me or anyone else, but you will not provoke me to disclose any more info about myself than what already has been disclosed. Youe are FAKE and a LIAR and no late crying to others will prove the opposite!

When it comes to "kicking - ass", in time you will find, that's one threat you have gone too far with! You know what I mean don't you?

(if you do not, find the joke about the parrot and you'll know!)

Enjoy yourself till Monday -I'll be back to watch you!

[Kikapu]

Listen you cockroach of a man! The admin of this forum know I am from UK, that is enough for your purposes. My profession and private details are not material for a discussion on a public forum - especially where fanatics and spies like you are in abundance!

Why should I or anyone else whose details you unashamedly keep asking for oblige you with anything. Or is it upsetting you you are not gathering enough info to get paid by your new found employees?

You already have my picture - why don't you post yours and we can meet at that London wedding of yours in person! Imagine you'll be with all your friends and family and I'll be all on my own! Perhaps we can both get to know who we really are in a face to face situation - are you for it?

No, I do not think so somehow, because you are a spineless fake, that I have proved so in the post above! A frigging liar and a slug that wriggles each time a little more salt is poured on! We were all 8 years old too once, but we do not go around making up lies and stories just to attract attention or to bank on some fake self-pitying story.

Have you no shame? Accept that you've been exposed and go stand against a wall or something! And stop sounding comical by asking stupid questions about other peoples private lives! Who gives fuck whether you believe them or not or what you think of their current position - I certainly don't, and I do not think anyone else does either! Now PISS OFF!

BigToss,

I can't say I'm surprised that the lying Propagandist had decided that he cannot afford me to embarras him with his own information I will still let the "8 year old kick his Big Fat Ass" in his own way. BigToss told us almost everything about Cyprus, but he can't say where he was born and how long he has been in Cyprus. He did say that he was in my part of Town between 1960-63 and 66-69. Now how is it, that they were never captured in Kucuk Kaymakli in 63.??. Can you tell me BigToss that
you were 10 years old in 1963 or when. If so, that would make you 54 now. Can I assume that, at least, or is this also a secret.

54 year old v 8 year old.

My money is on the 8 year old to Whoop your Big Fat Ass Boy.


Anyway, I will make a post and answer all his lying Partitionist and Propagandist questions. He has already left the "TRNC" office in London for the weekend, so I'll take my time answering him. He can read it Monday, when he comes back to work, PROPAGANDISING.

By the way, I did not see your picture. I'm sure it is a FAKE. What do you take us for. You guys don't even tell us where you were born, and you put your picture on the net.

Excuse me while I LAUGH .

Now he wants me to put mine.

Keep up with your pilot stories BigToss. I'm sure the Bimbos are impressed but not me. The problem with you Propagandist is, you think you know all about me, because I talk a lot about me, but there are a lot more that you still don't know. Like you did not know, that I know quite a bit about Aviation, and since I called you on it, Mister BIG SHOT Pilot Trainer, you are looking for cover. Tough Shit.

[Kikapu]

So why are you replying to BK instead of taking up my offer you spineless rat! As I said before you can think what you like about me or anyone else, but you will not provoke me to disclose any more info about myself than what already has been disclosed. Youe are FAKE and a LIAR and no late crying to others will prove the opposite!

When it comes to "kicking - ass", in time you will find, that's one threat you have gone too far with! You know what I mean don't you?

(if you do not, find the joke about the parrot and you'll know!)

Enjoy yourself till Monday -I'll be back to watch you!

Listen BigToss, I know where to find you if I want to see you, so just carry on doing what you doing for the "Bastardised TRNC" and one day out of the blue, I will drop by, so that we can have Lunch Together.

Well keep politics out. It will be "to get to know each other meeting".

How's that sound to you.??

I know the "TRNC" office is close now, but let me know first thing Monday Morning, OK.