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Postby DT. » Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:12 pm

alexISS wrote:I think this is the first time that not-so-moderate members of the forum from both sides agree on an early idea of a solution plan


:roll: whole lot of good thats done Alexiss
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Postby alexISS » Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:19 pm

DT. wrote:
alexISS wrote:I think this is the first time that not-so-moderate members of the forum from both sides agree on an early idea of a solution plan


:roll: whole lot of good thats done Alexiss


Well things looked more promising earlier today :lol:
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Postby MR-from-NG » Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:28 pm

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mrfromng wrote:OK. Have 2% back. 37% is enough for us.

:lol: I've only just realized why you said that! I don't know where I got the 39 from... Sorry! :)


:lol: :lol: :lol: Good morning GR. :lol: :lol: I still think you're the smartest :wink:
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:29 pm

Murataga wrote:The issue is quite simple: although you do not make what the RoC should be and is supposed to be recognized as, why the hell are you hijacking it, claiming to be it, being treated as it, and allowed in the meantime to usurp the benefits that go along with it to use against us?

If you were to look into Partnership law or Divorce law you would find that the partner who ABANDONS the partnership/agreement has in many ways shot themselves in the foot. There are proper/accepted channels to solve problems and/or dissolve agreements if desired but running away from such an agreement and becoming an accessory to illegalities is NOT acceptable so your above theory is nothing but... crap! :)
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:35 pm

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Get Real! wrote:
mrfromng wrote:OK. Have 2% back. 37% is enough for us.

:lol: I've only just realized why you said that! I don't know where I got the 39 from... Sorry! :)


:lol: :lol: :lol: Good morning GR. :lol: :lol: I still think you're the smartest :wink:

If you fooled the "smartest" then who are you complimenting here? :)
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:38 pm

Kifeas firstly I have to thank you for such a long and detailed post, I must have touched a raw nerve.

It would take me ages to respond to everything in the post but when I read what you have to say the first thing that strikes me is that you obviously have a phobia against Turks and anything Turkish.

Please excuse me for trusting 1000s of worldwide experts who prepared the plan which was tailor made to try and meet our unique situation. The GCs side took part in all the negotiations, were they asleep or just not interested?, this plan did not drop from the sky and I have friends who took part in the negotiations, many of the chapters where based on GC representation, discussed and agreed by the 2 sides during meetings and amended by UN.

You still have problems dealing with the fact that the north state would be run by TCs and not GCs... the plan tries to apply the same conditions and principles in both states allowing for the needs and cultures of each community. This plan was a 2 state BBF not a unity state solution where 80% will quite easily dominate the whole island and ensure that TCs are reduced to the level of just another minority where they have not direct say in their own future.

You have demonized the AP to death because it was not upto your expectations but dont forget no plan will be because your aims differ from those experts which worked to produced a plan which was backed by 99% of the world, but hey you rejected it, you now have to live with that decision and wait around for another chance....which always appears to must worse than the last one, if that chance should ever come around in your or my lifetime.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:38 pm

alexISS wrote:
DT. wrote:
alexISS wrote:I think this is the first time that not-so-moderate members of the forum from both sides agree on an early idea of a solution plan


:roll: whole lot of good thats done Alexiss


Well things looked more promising earlier today :lol:

Just out of curiosity, what is it with the Marx brothers image? It looks like a Marx brother... was he your childhood hero? :lol:
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Postby MR-from-NG » Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:40 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Murataga wrote:The issue is quite simple: although you do not make what the RoC should be and is supposed to be recognized as, why the hell are you hijacking it, claiming to be it, being treated as it, and allowed in the meantime to usurp the benefits that go along with it to use against us?

If you were to look into Partnership law or Divorce law you would find that the partner who ABANDONS the partnership/agreement has in many ways shot themselves in the foot. There are proper/accepted channels to solve problems and/or dissolve agreements if desired but running away from such an agreement and becoming an accessory to illegalities is NOT acceptable so your above theory is nothing but... crap! :)


I think you'll find it was more than a case of abandoning the partner. It was more a case of "attempted murder". No prizes for guessing who the victim was :shock:
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Postby Murataga » Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:53 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Murataga wrote:The issue is quite simple: although you do not make what the RoC should be and is supposed to be recognized as, why the hell are you hijacking it, claiming to be it, being treated as it, and allowed in the meantime to usurp the benefits that go along with it to use against us?

If you were to look into Partnership law or Divorce law you would find that the partner who ABANDONS the partnership/agreement has in many ways shot themselves in the foot. There are proper/accepted channels to solve problems and/or dissolve agreements if desired but running away from such an agreement and becoming an accessory to illegalities is NOT acceptable so your above theory is nothing but... crap! :)


It is called getting kicked out through violence and murder not abandoning. We can argue about it as much as you like, but that is besides the point. What I am telling you is not theory it is fact written in law:

You are not what the legal and lawful RoC is defined to be and recognized by the U.N. and as our leaders agreed for it to be. Yet you are hijacking that title and allowed in the meantime to usurp 100% of the benefits that go along with it to use against us. End of story.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:08 am

Murataga wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Murataga wrote:The issue is quite simple: although you do not make what the RoC should be and is supposed to be recognized as, why the hell are you hijacking it, claiming to be it, being treated as it, and allowed in the meantime to usurp the benefits that go along with it to use against us?

If you were to look into Partnership law or Divorce law you would find that the partner who ABANDONS the partnership/agreement has in many ways shot themselves in the foot. There are proper/accepted channels to solve problems and/or dissolve agreements if desired but running away from such an agreement and becoming an accessory to illegalities is NOT acceptable so your above theory is nothing but... crap! :)


It is called getting kicked out through violence and murder not abandoning. We can argue about it as much as you like, but that is besides the point. What I am telling you is not theory it is fact written in law:

You are not what the legal and lawful RoC is defined to be and recognized by the U.N. and as our leaders agreed for it to be. Yet you are hijacking that title and allowed in the meantime to usurp 100% of the benefits that go along with it to use against us. End of story.

My point is that the entity called the “RoC” legally still exists abandoned or not because nobody applied/succeeded to dissolve it as far as I’m aware and in a court of law that would count.

If you and I were to enter a partnership and setup a bookshop as an example, and we then have an argument so you grab half the stock and some showcases and setup a new business elsewhere without dissolving the partnership do you honestly think a court of law would be in your favor?

If I then complain then legally the police should come around to your new shop and arrest you for stealing from your own business and confiscate the goods. True or false?
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