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Well guys , in my Cyprus I do not see majorities or minorities only Cypriots.

You choose to ignore reality because it suits you.

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People here seem to have come under the delusion that because the "RoC" was allowed into the EU that that is the solution to the problem. This cannot be further than the truth. The truth is that the Annan Plan was the solution, all be it flawed, but that was the solution that was on the table and not the "RoC". We are still looking for a solution and the "RoC" wil have to go as part of that solution.

Well the TCs have their own opinion and they will always ask for more and for what they think is "right". What worries me about all this is the precedent that the "TRNC" can set. How many years have the "TCs" in Cyprus? What happened here could happen in any country? Or is it just the price a small country had to pay to not spoil the militar relations of the bigger powers? If in let's say 200 years the "TGs" in Germany want to form a "TRNG" would that be ok? Or would they be send back packing to Anatolia? Or would they be granted with veto powers, bigger voting % or make their language official to appease them? I would really apreciate if somebody could answer these questions. Thanx

Do they have a partnership agreement with the Germans like the one between the TCs and GCs or any guarantor powers involved? any history of conflict?

[Kifeas]

To all: If the GCs can tear up the Cyprus Constitution because the way they feel, Let Turke y do the same with the Treaty of Lausanne. Greece has broken the treaty so many times. Let Turkey revoke the treaty where it gave up its rights over the island of Cyprus. The GCs will love that for sure.

Turkey never had any rights in Cyprus, to have had to forgo them with any treaty! Only the people of Cyprus naturally have rights in Cyprus!

Turkey, if it continues to be the fascist state it is, soon will lose its EU accession process with a veto from Cyprus, and will be kicked out of the Council of Europe for continuing to violate the human rights of the Cypriot people! As Mr. Babacan, Turkey's EU negotiator, so eloquently put it the other day, if Turkey doesn't change brains and become a civilized nation, it will inevitably gradually relegate into a third world country!

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To all: If the GCs can tear up the Cyprus Constitution because the way they feel, Let Turke y do the same with the Treaty of Lausanne. Greece has broken the treaty so many times. Let Turkey revoke the treaty where it gave up its rights over the island of Cyprus. The GCs will love that for sure.

Turkey never had any rights in Cyprus, to have had to forgo them with any treaty! Only the people of Cyprus naturally have rights in Cyprus!

Turkey, if it continues to be the fascist state it is, soon will lose its EU accession process with a veto from Cyprus, and will be kicked out of the Council of Europe for continuing to violate the human rights of the Cypriot people! As Mr. Babacan, Turkey's EU negotiator, so eloquently put it the other day, if Turkey doesn't change brains and become a civilized nation, it will inevitably gradually relegate into a third world country!

We want them here Kifeas, do we have any rights?

Any links to this statement by Babacan?

[Kifeas]

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detay ... ink=113286

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To all: If the GCs can tear up the Cyprus Constitution because the way they feel, Let Turke y do the same with the Treaty of Lausanne. Greece has broken the treaty so many times. Let Turkey revoke the treaty where it gave up its rights over the island of Cyprus. The GCs will love that for sure.

Turkey never had any rights in Cyprus, to have had to forgo them with any treaty! Only the people of Cyprus naturally have rights in Cyprus!

Turkey, if it continues to be the fascist state it is, soon will lose its EU accession process with a veto from Cyprus, and will be kicked out of the Council of Europe for continuing to violate the human rights of the Cypriot people! As Mr. Babacan, Turkey's EU negotiator, so eloquently put it the other day, if Turkey doesn't change brains and become a civilized nation, it will inevitably gradually relegate into a third world country!

Put more diplomatically Ill leave it to posters interpretation ;

Turkey will be relegated to the status of "a Third World country" unless it applies EU standards of democracy and the rule of law, the country's chief EU negotiator State Minister Ali Babacan said on Tuesday.

[Get Real!]

People here seem to have come under the delusion that because the "RoC" was allowed into the EU that that is the solution to the problem. This cannot be further than the truth. The truth is that the Annan Plan was the solution, all be it flawed, but that was the solution that was on the table and not the "RoC". We are still looking for a solution and the "RoC" wil have to go as part of that solution.

Well the TCs have their own opinion and they will always ask for more and for what they think is "right". What worries me about all this is the precedent that the "TRNC" can set. How many years have the "TCs" in Cyprus? What happened here could happen in any country? Or is it just the price a small country had to pay to not spoil the militar relations of the bigger powers? If in let's say 200 years the "TGs" in Germany want to form a "TRNG" would that be ok? Or would they be send back packing to Anatolia? Or would they be granted with veto powers, bigger voting % or make their language official to appease them? I would really apreciate if somebody could answer these questions. Thanx

Do they have a partnership agreement with the Germans like the one between the TCs and GCs or any guarantor powers involved? any history of conflict?

That's actually irrelevant because nowhere in the agreements you bring up does it say that when the two communities disagree the TCs may grab a chunk of territory and create a new state.

Relatino makes a good point and of course we all know the answer to his questions, yourself included, but can you bring yourself round to admitting that your community took advantage of the Turkish military and has thus committed treason of the highest order against the Republic of Cyprus?

Is it any wonder why your leaders are so persistent in trying to make the unworkable "TRNC" work?

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People here seem to have come under the delusion that because the "RoC" was allowed into the EU that that is the solution to the problem. This cannot be further than the truth. The truth is that the Annan Plan was the solution, all be it flawed, but that was the solution that was on the table and not the "RoC". We are still looking for a solution and the "RoC" wil have to go as part of that solution.

Well the TCs have their own opinion and they will always ask for more and for what they think is "right". What worries me about all this is the precedent that the "TRNC" can set. How many years have the "TCs" in Cyprus? What happened here could happen in any country? Or is it just the price a small country had to pay to not spoil the militar relations of the bigger powers? If in let's say 200 years the "TGs" in Germany want to form a "TRNG" would that be ok? Or would they be send back packing to Anatolia? Or would they be granted with veto powers, bigger voting % or make their language official to appease them? I would really apreciate if somebody could answer these questions. Thanx

Do they have a partnership agreement with the Germans like the one between the TCs and GCs or any guarantor powers involved? any history of conflict?

That's actually irrelevant because nowhere in the agreements you bring up does it say that when the two communities disagree the TCs may grab a chunk of territory and create a new state.

Relatino makes a good point and of course we all know the answer to his questions, yourself included, but can you bring yourself round to admitting that your community took advantage of the Turkish military and has thus committed treason of the highest order against the Republic of Cyprus?

Is it any wonder why your leaders are so persistent in trying to make the unworkable "TRNC" work?

Treason to the "RoC"? are you aware of events in 1963 and what followed? 1974 was just the exploding point where division was the result until we could find a solution to our problems, the rest is history.

The TRNC works everyday just look north every morning on your way to work the scenery will remain the same until Gcs come to their senses and understand that they have to share not only land but also political power.