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[EPSILON]

so tell us then alex what the Greeks gave to Cyprus after 1974.if they cared so much for Cyprus why did they not try and stop the turks..............

Fo the same reason Cypriots themlselves did not try to stop them- Both countries had a clever leadership that time

[EPSILON]

He owes you nothing. Take your Nikiphoros, Diogenis, Kolokotronis, Boumboulina, and every other Greek member from here and go join a Greek forum where you belong and leave us in peace.

We have NOTHING to say to you that can bring a smile to your face.

Blah Blah Blah... are you trying to avoid giving an answer to my question to you regarding the Istanbul pogrom?

GET REAL:If you do not realise this is a Greek forum, either created by Greeks of Cyprus or mainland Greece.

[Nikephoros]

I am using stupidity...

So tell me where you an officer of the 361st Infantry Battalion on the Battle of Cyprus?
Have you ever did research in the State Department archives regarding the Turkish invasion?
Have you ever studied Islamic jurisprudence?

You can only learn useless info from discussions in cafes that you should forget. For every subject out there from weightlifting to history to musical theory there are serious experts who leave written records known as books. But NeoCypriots prefer always first ideology and ignorance.

[EPSILON]

I ignore Nikeforos's contribution to this issue on the grounds of sheer stupidity , but will respond to Epsilons' question as to my consideration of EOKA , and here I specifically mean EOKA , not the suffocates that were re assembled to beat up all those that though that Cyprus was an independent nation and not part of Greece.
I consider EOKA to have been a liberation organization in every sense of the word. The means did not always , as it is now apparent , justify the ends. But it gave this nation , the nation of Cyprus a window out of the British colonialist world.

Meltiades, if you try to reduce the quantity of Tzivania you are drinking while posting then you start to speak somehow logical.

Wht about my second question regading any of Greek Cypriots leaders including Makarios to say anything about Cyprus Nation? Or you discovered this in Soviet Union books of 60's?

[miltiades]

I hope there is isn't an equivalent to article 301 in Greece. I have insulted and criticized what ought to be insulted and criticized. You smoke like bloody chimneys , your unsophisticated TV stars still consider that smoking on screen is cool
encouraging the young and impressionable to mimic them , you spit in the streets , in restaurants , in tavernas , you con each other , I couldn't trust you for as long as I could throw you , I have lived amongst you and have gotten to know you. You show total disrespect to those that have opposing views by telling them to go and fuck them selves and have the audacity to demand an apology you rascal ?? Let me tell you Greek. Way back in the 50s I joined ANE and participated in pro ENOSIS demonstrations BECAUSE I KNEW NO BETTER. Now that I know , I say to you , that you the Greeks and Athenians instead of spending your time demonstrating for insignificant issues should unite and demand UNION WITH CYPRUS .Get that Communist leader of the party to instruct you on this issue , since she is always there to open her big mouth and talk rubbish. Wake up , the glory of Greece ain't no more baddie , its now the beginning of the glory of CYPRUS.

Miltiades, are You drinking Tzivania when you are posting?

Why , are you offering ?? And how much !!!

[EPSILON]

I hope there is isn't an equivalent to article 301 in Greece. I have insulted and criticized what ought to be insulted and criticized. You smoke like bloody chimneys , your unsophisticated TV stars still consider that smoking on screen is cool
encouraging the young and impressionable to mimic them , you spit in the streets , in restaurants , in tavernas , you con each other , I couldn't trust you for as long as I could throw you , I have lived amongst you and have gotten to know you. You show total disrespect to those that have opposing views by telling them to go and fuck them selves and have the audacity to demand an apology you rascal ?? Let me tell you Greek. Way back in the 50s I joined ANE and participated in pro ENOSIS demonstrations BECAUSE I KNEW NO BETTER. Now that I know , I say to you , that you the Greeks and Athenians instead of spending your time demonstrating for insignificant issues should unite and demand UNION WITH CYPRUS .Get that Communist leader of the party to instruct you on this issue , since she is always there to open her big mouth and talk rubbish. Wake up , the glory of Greece ain't no more baddie , its now the beginning of the glory of CYPRUS.

Miltiades, are You drinking Tzivania when you are posting?

Why , are you offering ?? And how much !!!

I can sent you boxes free of charge but stop posting while drinking

[bigOz]

I am using stupidity...

So tell me where you an officer of the 361st Infantry Battalion on the Battle of Cyprus?
Have you ever did research in the State Department archives regarding the Turkish invasion?
Have you ever studied Islamic jurisprudence?

You can only learn useless info from discussions in cafes that you should forget. For every subject out there from weightlifting to history to musical theory there are serious experts who leave written records known as books. But NeoCypriots prefer always first ideology and ignorance.

What are you ranting about man? The Turkish army is not run by "Islamic jurisprudence", anymore than the TCs!

There is no record of "battle of Cyprus" in any history books I've read - you are turning this into a battle of "Waterloo"! What battle? more than 20,000 Mainland Greek army who backed EOKA overthrow the democratically elected president Makarios, running away in the face of the invading Turkish army and leaving behind GCs to defend their beaches? When it was not them who started the trouble in the first place?

On your next visit to Kyrenia try visiting the military museum where you'll see many vehicles left behind in their haste to run away! As a TC I can vouch for one thing, and that is the main difference between mainland Greeks and GCs is that that Cypriots have a lot more balls when it comes to fighting - excluding the dogs of EOKA who also made a run for it and who are only good in fighting unarmed civilians!

And before anyone starts the rubbish about Turkish army coming in with tanks and artillery - the mainland Greek troops on the island were not using air-pistols either. They were fully equipped with tanks, heavy artillery and even anti-aircraft missiles, as well as outnumbering the initial landing forces by almost two to one. There is no denying that the daring fascist Greek junta brought this problem home to GCs and had left them to pay the price...

[bigOz]

He owes you nothing. Take your Nikiphoros, Diogenis, Kolokotronis, Boumboulina, and every other Greek member from here and go join a Greek forum where you belong and leave us in peace.

We have NOTHING to say to you that can bring a smile to your face.

Blah Blah Blah... are you trying to avoid giving an answer to my question to you regarding the Istanbul pogrom?

GET REAL:If you do not realise this is a Greek forum, either created by Greeks of Cyprus or mainland Greece.

There are no nationalities for internet sites. Forums are all in public domain and unless you wish to make them "selected members only" which you can do so which means only those mates of members can participate, you cannot put a nationality tag to it! In fact, if you did, you might even face a ban by Google based on "racism"!

In any case I doubt any such forum would have too many members for it to be economically viable (ie. for anyone to advertise), and it would also be extremely boring... Over the past 3 years I have become member to at least 40-60 forums couple of them private and I do know what I am talking about!

As for you advice to GR that this is a Greek forum - then why the hell is it called CYPRUS FORUM?

[EPSILON]

I am using stupidity...

So tell me where you an officer of the 361st Infantry Battalion on the Battle of Cyprus?
Have you ever did research in the State Department archives regarding the Turkish invasion?
Have you ever studied Islamic jurisprudence?

You can only learn useless info from discussions in cafes that you should forget. For every subject out there from weightlifting to history to musical theory there are serious experts who leave written records known as books. But NeoCypriots prefer always first ideology and ignorance.

What are you ranting about man? The Turkish army is not run by "Islamic jurisprudence", anymore than the TCs!

There is no record of "battle of Cyprus" in any history books I've read - you are turning this into a battle of "Waterloo"! What battle? more than 20,000 Mainland Greek army who backed EOKA overthrow the democratically elected president Makarios, running away in the face of the invading Turkish army and leaving behind GCs to defend their beaches? When it was not them who started the trouble in the first place?

On your next visit to Kyrenia try visiting the military museum where you'll see many vehicles left behind in their haste to run away! As a TC I can vouch for one thing, and that is the main difference between mainland Greeks and GCs is that that Cypriots have a lot more balls when it comes to fighting - excluding the dogs of EOKA who also made a run for it and who are only good in fighting unarmed civilians!

And before anyone starts the rubbish about Turkish army coming in with tanks and artillery - the mainland Greek troops on the island were not using air-pistols either. They were fully equipped with tanks, heavy artillery and even anti-aircraft missiles, as well as outnumbering the initial landing forces by almost two to one. There is no denying that the daring fascist Greek junta brought this problem home to GCs and had left them to pay the price...

This post almoast telling the trough on how GCs were running away during Turkish invasion.However to say that mainland Greek soldiers runned away in fights with Turks!!!Yes these participating in Greek Juntas plans yes but tell us my freind why Nicocia airport is not occupied by Turks?It was the only place where pure Greek from Creta Island soldiers deffending the area.

In cyprus in 1974 was not a real war between a democratic Greece or Cyprus against the invasion it was just an application of fanatics plans to destroy the Island

[Nikephoros]

Islamic jurisprudence divides the war into dar al Islam(abode of peace) and dar al Harb(abode of war). Islamic inter state relations where coded before the Western international law and muslim countries follow the Islamic tradition and only justify their external policies to the outside world in terms of international law.

bigOz you are clueless to history. The National Guard of Cyprus not the mainland Greek army had 10,300 men in arms before the Turkish invasion.
Source:
Χάντζος, Δημήτριος. "Κύπρος '74 μια νίκη απωλεσθείσα." Εκδ. Κυρομάνος (Θεσσαλονίκη; 2000) pp. 62-3.

The National Guard only had a handful of inadequate WWII Soviet T-35 tanks. By the time Turkey invaded only 3 were operational. You bs and lie about the power of the National Guard. The stupid leftists Greek Cypriots never secured diplomatic support for Cyprus instead they were scurrying around with the Third World Movement while Turkey was receiving for free lots of better military equipment than Cyprus was.