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Postby EPSILON » Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:46 am

miltiades wrote:The Greek mainlander from Athens wrote:
"""ill not expect you to understand the cost created to GCs becuase of this Cyprus nation theory. """"

What I find nauseatingly obscenely disgusting is the premise that the Cyprus nation is all but a figment of our imagination , a mere theory !!! My Cypriot ancestrals did not exist , my great grandfather , Spanos , was a priest in Paphos , spent 40 plus years pretending that he was a Cypriot according to this incalculably misguided individual. Such was the driving force that has today proven to have been the predominant factor in causing immense damage to the island of Cyprus , who incidentally has a history going back some 6 thousand years , and this immeasurably naive person denies. I suggest he begins a course of antibiotics to assist his recovery. Let him know that I m a Greek Cypriot , and just as there are Spanish Americans , Italian Americans , Greek Americans there are Greek Cypriots , Turkish Cypriots , English Cypriots and so on and so forth . All ARE CYPRIOTS that consider this island to be their nation adopted or otherwise.
ps. Living in Athens as you do , do tell us do the Great Athenians still spit in the street , and have the signs on the trains "NO SPITTING " have been removed ?? Just wondered .


Having not understand what I am saying you reply by stupid statements like in your last paragraph. I am telling you that any suggested by int community Cyprus solution plan was always the split of distance between Turkey's and GCs positions on the case. By your theories We became so close to Turkey's position when there is small distance to split.And of course the result is what Turkey want 60 years now, devision of the Island and their control of all Island in respect of military and foreign police aspects. Maybe someone will be found to make us to wake up.

Someone can tell me who are you telling such theories at the time all our leadership (at least theoritically) saying otherwise. I can response in such a position that all damages to our country incurred by our leadership, fanatics or not, and not by me or you.
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Postby EPSILON » Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:11 am

And Miltades, something else, regarding your grand father I do not beileve that he had heard anything about a Cyprus Nation before 1960!! This appeared afterwards by some clever politicians who, alnogwith some fanatics, detroyed the Island

You must be very young to not have a picture of the above
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Postby miltiades » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:33 am

EPSILON wrote:And Miltades, something else, regarding your grand father I do not beileve that he had heard anything about a Cyprus Nation before 1960!! This appeared afterwards by some clever politicians who, alnogwith some fanatics, detroyed the Island

You must be very young to not have a picture of the above


You are talking absolute rubbish !!! Re , my grandfather was KIPREOS AND HIS GRANDFATHER BEFORE HIM , NOT KALAMARAS .
I'm 61 years of age , you are just a mere kid taken in by the Kalamaristikes vlakies , I suggest you do some research to establish that Cyprus is a nation on its own merit , not part of Greece thankfully !
In Cyprus we occasionally mistake an accent for that of a Kalamara , when the error is discovered we say , ohi den ime kalamaras ime kipreos !
We have nothing to learn from this nation that treats its own mis fortunate people with utter contempt .The taught us a few unwelcome habits already , like smoking and driving like fucking maniacs.

The bloody fanatics were the disciples of "Ellas Ellinon Xristianon "bullshit.
They and they alone destroyed our island.
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Postby EPSILON » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:38 am

miltiades wrote:
EPSILON wrote:And Miltades, something else, regarding your grand father I do not beileve that he had heard anything about a Cyprus Nation before 1960!! This appeared afterwards by some clever politicians who, alnogwith some fanatics, detroyed the Island

You must be very young to not have a picture of the above


You are talking absolute rubbish !!! Re , my grandfather was KIPREOS AND HIS GRANDFATHER BEFORE HIM , NOT KALAMARAS .
I'm 61 years of age , you are just a mere kid taken in by the Kalamaristikes vlakies , I suggest you do some research to establish that Cyprus is a nation on its own merit , not part of Greece thankfully !
In Cyprus we occasionally mistake an accent for that of a Kalamara , when the error is discovered we say , ohi den ime kalamaras ime kipreos !

Slowlly slowly show yourselve. You will never understand because you are just a fanatic (you know fanatics are everywhere)- You said about Kalamarades and other stupid things you are refering too. We are speaking about approaches of Cyprus problem solution.

Your post clearly showing what UK did in your mind - maybe you was there or your family before 1955? This will guide us somewhere at least of the reasons you are not able to understand what i am saying
We have nothing to learn from this nation that treats its own mis fortunate people with utter contempt .The taught us a few unwelcome habits already , like smoking and driving like fucking maniacs.

The bloody fanatics were the disciples of "Ellas Ellinon Xristianon "bullshit.
They and they alone destroyed our island.
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Postby EPSILON » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:43 am

miltiades wrote:
EPSILON wrote:And Miltades, something else, regarding your grand father I do not beileve that he had heard anything about a Cyprus Nation before 1960!! This appeared afterwards by some clever politicians who, alnogwith some fanatics, detroyed the Island

You must be very young to not have a picture of the above


You are talking absolute rubbish !!! Re , my grandfather was KIPREOS AND HIS GRANDFATHER BEFORE HIM , NOT KALAMARAS .
I'm 61 years of age , you are just a mere kid taken in by the Kalamaristikes vlakies , I suggest you do some research to establish that Cyprus is a nation on its own merit , not part of Greece thankfully !
In Cyprus we occasionally mistake an accent for that of a Kalamara , when the error is discovered we say , ohi den ime kalamaras ime kipreos !
We have nothing to learn from this nation that treats its own mis fortunate people with utter contempt .The taught us a few unwelcome habits already , like smoking and driving like fucking maniacs.

The bloody fanatics were the disciples of "Ellas Ellinon Xristianon "bullshit.
They and they alone destroyed our island.


You will never be able to communicate- or to understand what we are discussing here. You are refering to not related things. We are speaking about approches of Cyprus problem solution and you refer to ...green horses.It seems that UK affected you seriously. You may even be in UK before 1950 which case will guide us to the reasons you not accept my previeus statement.

Who stated here about Kalamarades or Enosis or other words you put in my mouth. You look more fanatic than these of EOKA B.
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Postby EPSILON » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:55 am

And Meltiadis, at least here in Kalamaria and in Cyprus, we are saying Kouzina and not Kitchouin and secondly we are staying in proper houses and not in the wooden boxes you are use or still stay in your beautiful country
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Postby bigOz » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:57 am

Welcome back Miltiades! I tried not to participate in this threads because you are clearly perfectly well tooled up to deal with what is right and what is wrong. Hence I stuck to reading the posts only.

But I must express my pleasure in seeing this quote in your posts:
Conversation turned to the past and all 3 concurred that prior to the fanatics of EOKA B they had interacted with their neighbours and had no problems what so ever. None expressed any malice against their old neighbours on the contrary all were criticizing the G/C fanatics for all the mess that ensued.

If only all GCs had the same view, there would no longer be a Cyprus problem! It is not really asking for much is it - but at every attempt things start shooting in different directions and some change the whole conversation into "Yes but... No but...", resulting in false accusations of fanaticism aimed at those who are truly looking for ways of achieving a united Cyprus.

It may still be possible one day, when people start to call themselves "Cypriots" and be proud of it in real sense - until then VERY HARD WORK MY FRIEND!
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Postby alexISS » Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:02 pm

miltiades wrote:We have nothing to learn from this nation that treats its own mis fortunate people with utter contempt .The taught us a few unwelcome habits already , like smoking and driving like fucking maniacs.

The bloody fanatics were the disciples of "Ellas Ellinon Xristianon "bullshit.
They and they alone destroyed our island.


As a Kalamaras and a soon to be father of a half Cypriot half Greek baby, I have to say F U C K Y O U you bastard hater, Greece and the Greeks gave everything for the well being of Cyprus after the 74 invasion, and you fascist dick were too far away to even notice.
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Postby miltiades » Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:07 pm

EPSILON wrote:And Meltiadis, at least here in Kalamaria and in Cyprus, we are saying Kouzina and not Kitchouin and secondly we are staying in proper houses and not in the wooden boxes you are use or still stay in your beautiful country


And in Cyprus we say " aggouraki " in Kalamaria you say AGGOURI !!!!

Surprised you cant spell a name like Miltiades correctly , if you do a google search on Pope Miltiades you will see the correct spelling.
You are correct that many UK Cypriots are very eloquent for reasons we discussed earlier. They are however genuine Cypriots who from afar have always supported the Cyprus cause , they left Cyprus many years ago , mostly with little or no education but with a heart of gold and a possitive approach to life . They have excelled themselves in every way by educating their children , instilling in them family values and proper behaviour , so what if you call the kouzina , and they call kitchoui !!
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Postby bigfatlondonboy » Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:11 pm

so tell us then alex what the Greeks gave to Cyprus after 1974.if they cared so much for Cyprus why did they not try and stop the turks..............
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