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What are you trying to prove?

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:26 pm

We are all posting like crazy but we are just going around in circles and no one really changes their opinions can everyone answer the above question.

Im trying to test and prove that what I believe is correct that the best solution for everyone is partition and after 5000 odd posts I am more convinced than ever. This has a lot to do with posters on this forum who demonstrate exactly why we are kidding ourselves when we think we can live in a unified Cyprus. The chasm is just to wide and getting wider, we all lack the vision, desire or need to compromise our way to a solution.

What are you trying to prove?
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Postby Piratis » Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:19 pm

The reason you are here is to support partition. Even the above post of yours was made for this reason.

With the TCs that are not pro-partition (Kikapu, Bir etc) we could easily find common ground and come to an agreement. But you don't want to allow that, right?

The chasm is there because you want it to be there since your aim is partition. Since such "chasm", hate and conflict is what serve your aim of partition, it is natural that you want to promote them.
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Postby zan » Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:38 pm

Piratis wrote:The reason you are here is to support partition. Even the above post of yours was made for this reason.

With the TCs that are not pro-partition (Kikapu, Bir etc) we could easily find common ground and come to an agreement. But you don't want to allow that, right?

The chasm is there because you want it to be there since your aim is partition. Since such "chasm", hate and conflict is what serve your aim of partition, it is natural that you want to promote them.


And you are here to promote love and peace yeh! Only if we decide to surrender to your every demand and hand over our island to a guy that has said that if the majority want ENOSIS then so shall it be regardless of what has happened before. :roll:
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:06 am

Piratis wrote:The reason you are here is to support partition. Even the above post of yours was made for this reason.

With the TCs that are not pro-partition (Kikapu, Bir etc) we could easily find common ground and come to an agreement. But you don't want to allow that, right?

The chasm is there because you want it to be there since your aim is partition. Since such "chasm", hate and conflict is what serve your aim of partition, it is natural that you want to promote them.


By all means listen to the 2 individuals ideas but remember they dont even live on the island and will not have to live here after a solution, they will not be thrown into the fire, its me and people like me who live here that should be taken more notice of as its my life and yours that will be turned upside down or put in danger not theirs.

The chasm exsists there is no denying this or you we would have been reunited years ago and as long as people, feel free to resolve things tomorrow if you can but as long as you close your ears and eyes to the reality of today then all you can do is wait for the swing.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:10 am

Viewpoint’s very first post in this forum 2 years ago

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... sc&start=0

Viewpoint wrote: I have made a few enquiries into what could happen when the case is presented before UK courts by chatting to English Lawyers and the answers I got was the road will be very long and full of pit holes not to mention very costly. The case will be constantly delayed due to its political impact and current UK Foreign Policy on Cyprus eg Solution via Annan Plan so the prosecuting lawyer must have a lot of patience, time and money if he is to obtain a result be it positive or negative.

Using the Law to apply pressure and obtain political gain in my opinion is not correct, it only breeds ill will between our communities which is a snow ball and serves no purpose in the long run.

The Property issue is a very sensative one and should be handled with great care on a
wholesale basis.
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Postby paaul12 » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:26 am

Keep up the good work boys, its all starting to fall into place now:
IMMOVEABLE PROPERTY COMMISSION CONTINUES ITS WORK

For the first time, a Greek Cypriot, who has already applied to the European Court of Human Rights on the property issue, has brought the case to the TRNC Immoveable Property Commission.
The Commission has for the first time authorized an exchange of immoveable property between an applicant Greek Cypriot owner, who already applied to the ECHR, and a Turkish Cypriot who left a similar-valued property in the South.

The number of Greek Cypriots who have applied to the Immoveable Property Commission has risen to 182.

The case is important for having provided precedence for similar cases before the Commission.

The latest application is expected to strengthen the position of the Immoveable Property Commission as a local legal system of remedy and it is also expected to provide an example to cases taken up by the ECHR.

The Immovable Property Commission works with the aim of providing local remedies to the property issue which is one of the substantial issues of the Cyprus problem.

The Commission has so far concluded 22 cases; ordering 3 restitutions, 2 exchange and the rest to be resolved through compensation.

There are currently 50 cases brought by Greek Cypriots before the ECHR awaiting verdict.

Experts say about 1,400 cases which have not been taken up by the ECHR yet, might be removed from the Court’s agenda, thus, leading the Immoveable Property Commission to remain as a leading source of remedy to the property issue.

Source: http://www.brtk.cc/index.php/lang/en/cat/2/news/14533
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Postby Piratis » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:35 am

zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:The reason you are here is to support partition. Even the above post of yours was made for this reason.

With the TCs that are not pro-partition (Kikapu, Bir etc) we could easily find common ground and come to an agreement. But you don't want to allow that, right?

The chasm is there because you want it to be there since your aim is partition. Since such "chasm", hate and conflict is what serve your aim of partition, it is natural that you want to promote them.


And you are here to promote love and peace yeh! Only if we decide to surrender to your every demand and hand over our island to a guy that has said that if the majority want ENOSIS then so shall it be regardless of what has happened before. :roll:


I am here to promote democracy, human rights and freedom of Cyprus from foreign occupation. I also want peace of course, but peace can not come by surrendering all those universal values that people around the world have fought for centuries to achieve. And I never said that I want enosis or that today enosis should be an option. What I said is that enosis was our legitimate right for when Cyprus was decolonized and that demanding this legitimate right was not a crime.


The chasm exsists there is no denying this or you we would have been reunited years ago and as long as people, feel free to resolve things tomorrow if you can but as long as you close your ears and eyes to the reality of today then all you can do is wait for the swing.


And where did I say that there is no chasm??? What I said is that this chasm exists because you want it to exist since it serves your aim of partition. If we all had as a common aim the unification of Cyprus without borders and racist discriminations then there would be no chasm.

Bir and Kikapu are good examples for this. Those people have lived the worst from the inter communal conflict (unlike you) and still because we have a common aim (a truly unified Cyprus) there is no chasm.

You want partition which is of course very very different from what we want, and therefore the chasm exists.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:40 am

Keep up the good work boys, its all starting to fall into place now:


And which is the "good work"? Spreading Turkish pro-partition propaganda?

Thats why VP, Zan, Paul12 and some others are here.
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:10 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:The reason you are here is to support partition. Even the above post of yours was made for this reason.

With the TCs that are not pro-partition (Kikapu, Bir etc) we could easily find common ground and come to an agreement. But you don't want to allow that, right?

The chasm is there because you want it to be there since your aim is partition. Since such "chasm", hate and conflict is what serve your aim of partition, it is natural that you want to promote them.


By all means listen to the 2 individuals ideas but remember they dont even live on the island and will not have to live here after a solution, they will not be thrown into the fire, its me and people like me who live here that should be taken more notice of as its my life and yours that will be turned upside down or put in danger not theirs.

The chasm exsists there is no denying this or you we would have been reunited years ago and as long as people, feel free to resolve things tomorrow if you can but as long as you close your ears and eyes to the reality of today then all you can do is wait for the swing.


If it was such a hell and dangerous place Cyprus was or will be in the future, why the hell did you bring your family there, from the safety of UK. You are a liar of the worst kind. You make excuses more that I breath. You just want to keep your "HARAM LAND" so that you can have a better life than the people you stole the land from. You know what that makes you, so I will not repeat it now. You are nothing but a settler yourself and have no claim to any part of Cyprus you fool, get
out of there if you are not willing to share the place with it's rightful owners. You should be grateful we even let you stay there, but you are fast becoming an unwanted and over stayed their welcomed guest,

Is there no limit on the number of times you can use the word "chasm". I think 1,000,000 is the limit, and you're on 999,999,999, so make the last usage to be a good one, then start to learn another word
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Postby zan » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:45 am

Piratis wrote:
Keep up the good work boys, its all starting to fall into place now:


And which is the "good work"? Spreading Turkish pro-partition propaganda?

Thats why VP, Zan, Paul12 and some others are here.


It keeps you employed. If it was not for self appointed freedom fighters like me then you would be out of a job. You of all people calling other people Propagandists is about the biggest joke on the forum. Head honcho propaganda man that has been around since year dot spreading lies and trying to blur the edges. You are so Funny. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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