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[denizaksulu]

I am surprised at the foul language produced on this forumEven more surprised that it is allowed. Cant the moderators "bleep" them out? Is it really necessary? Red card to both sides , I am afraid.

[MR-from-NG]

I'm waiting for mrfromng to write back and tell me where his family was disrespected in any way.

As for you TMT Viewpoint, stay in your bunker where it is safe for you.!!

It isn't a case of disrespecting my family kikapu. You are trying your hardest to prove me to be liar. I remember December 63 and early 64 when my whole family would be screaming uncontrollably and cuddling dead bodies, as a kid it was a frightening experience for me and this used to happen very frequently. I will be going to Cyprus on the 18th and will get a complete list of people and family members killed in this period. Don't forget I'm from Ortakoy and almost everybody is related to one another one way or another.

I noticed your posy doubting bigOZ being a pilot. I remember Oz when he used to fly his light aircraft (may have been a Cessna 152 or 172) in Kyrenia and dropping leaflets off along the coast for his brothers nightclub, some of the maneuvers he was doing was amazing. Though I knew nothing about flying at the time you could easily tell he was a very capable pilot. I also fly light air-crafts now, have been for about 8 years but can never claim to be in Oz's league.

My point is you don't know me but judge me to be a liar. You don't know Oz but have doubts that he could be a pilot. Do you think we are incapable of telling the truth?

mrfromng,

At least we got the story correct, that I was not in anyway trying to disrespect your family. I was also not trying my hardest as you put it, to call you a LIAR, since we were not even on this subject at all mrfromng. It is something you said few weeks ago and it just stuck in my mind, so rather than just write and ask my question to you at any odd moment, I waited until we were on the forum at the same time. That's the reason why I asked the question last night, but then you must have signed off and did not see the question until today after BigToz took up the pieces in a very bad way. And since then, there has been discussion about mass bodies being found, but my question to you was last night and not today, after the recent discussions.

Now you see, that does help me to understand when you talk about a lot of "family members relating to one another in some way or another" as you put it, which makes the family Circle rather large. I had this image in my head, where it was only your immediate cousins from your uncles and aunts and most of them not being too much older than you at the time, you see what I'm getting at. My cousin that I talked about when we were captured in 63, was 17 years old, so he could have been shot by the GC soldiers before they discovered us hiding. He did in fact lead the soldiers to where we were hiding. So of course you could also have had adult cousins also mrfromng. Anyway, it was my curiosity more than anything else, that's all. My mind works overtime at times, so I guess this question was not going away for me, so I asked.


As for my questions to BigToz about flying. I have asked this question to him more than 2 weeks ago and he never responded. I also make couple of comments regarding flying, and still no comments. I have been around a lot of pilots, both professionals and private. When anyone mentions PLANES, these pilots would rather talk about all the gadgets then get laid, as many flight attendant (females) would tell me, whom I knew many also in my life. I had many flights in the cockpit with the pros at Federal Express, and that's all these guys talk about, or the pilots at the Grand Canyon Air Tours. I did some flying myself some time back, but I would not classify myself as a pilot. A sailor yes, but not a pilot. If I had to land a plane in a emergency, I could do it, but will not volunteer if I don't have to anymore. I have been interested in planes all my life, so I know a thing or two about them. I and a partner even had a business flying people to national parks in the USA at one point in my life. So I could not help but ask him the question, as to what type he teaches in, but he kept not answering the question, which is very odd for any pilot not to talk about planes, when asked.

I hope we have cleared up this one also.

Well the Cessna 152 and 172 are the most common for teaching students because they are fairly inexpensive to operate, and the "high wing" also helps while learning to land. Also get a good view at what's down below, on the ground.

Thanks for taking the time to explain kikapu. No hard feelings, you are after all a keen aviator and that puts you in a different light now. Btw please do not think I fly professionally, I always flew with my instructor and he always said "if you are up here thinking I wish I was down there" then you should stop flying. I had those feelings about 2 years ago and stopped flying. My wife and kids were never keen on the idea either. It also didn't help when a helicopter pilot friend crashed and died while taking two businessmen on a business trip to Brighton.

[Kifeas]

C’mon Kikabu, who would have given such a freak the right to fly a (any) plane!

[Get Real!]

Time out boys and girls... have a break have a kit kat!

[Kikapu]

C’mon Kikabu, who would have given such a freak the right to fly a (any) plane!

TCA Perhaps...

Just joking.

[Pyrpolizer]

For all its worth I apologize on Oz's behalf.

It takes a great man to say that mrfromng. Perhaps you are the only person who is a little "partitionist" that I respect in here. You demonstrated character 100s of times.

For what is worth I also apologise for draging the matter of the 11 dead people in your family. I also feel sorry for what you passed through in such an environment.

[Kikapu]

Thanks for taking the time to explain kikapu. No hard feelings, you are after all a keen aviator and that puts you in a different light now. Btw please do not think I fly professionally, I always flew with my instructor and he always said "if you are up here thinking I wish I was down there" then you should stop flying. I had those feelings about 2 years ago and stopped flying. My wife and kids were never keen on the idea either. It also didn't help when a helicopter pilot friend crashed and died while taking two businessmen on a business trip to Brighton.

I'm glad we can go to bed without hard feelings also mrfromng. I know I can be an asshole at times with my views, but I do have my boundaries of common decency.

That's the trouble with small aircraft, that pilots often end up dead if they make a silly mistakes. The problem as I see it, is that those who do not take flying seriously enough and only fly "casually" are the ones more likely to end up in trouble. You need to put your time and keep your hours up every month, and even then, you could be a danger to yourself and others. I knew when it was time to give it up. Beyond that, you are playing "Russian Roulette".

I miss flying, but I'm still alive, and here I am on the forum, bugging the crap out of you guys.

I'll stick with sailing. One has much longer time to solve any problems that may arise, but my swimming abilities really suck.

[MR-from-NG]

For all its worth I apologize on Oz's behalf.

It takes a great man to say that mrfromng. Perhaps you are the only person who is a little "partitionist" that I respect in here. You demonstrated character 100s of times.

For what is worth I also apologise for draging the matter of the 11 dead people in your family. I also feel sorry for what you passed through in such an environment.

Kikapu wrote.
I'm glad we can go to bed without hard feelings also mrfromng. I know I can be an asshole at times with my views, but I do have my boundaries of common decency.

That's the trouble with small aircraft, that pilots often end up dead if they make a silly mistakes. The problem as I see it, is that those who do not take flying seriously enough and only fly "casually" are the ones more likely to end up in trouble. You need to put your time and keep your hours up every month, and even then, you could be a danger to yourself and others. I knew when it was time to give it up. Beyond that, you are playing "Russian Roulette".

I miss flying, but I'm still alive, and here I am on the forum, bugging the crap out of you guys.

I'll stick with sailing. One has much longer time to solve any problems that may arise, but my swimming abilities really suck.

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Straight back at you my friend Pyrpolizer. No need to apologise my friend though I thank you for it.

Kikapu, thanks to you too. A group hug.

[GreekForumer]

TIMELINE December 11th 1954

TURKISH CYPRIOTS ON WAY; Group Will Argue for Keeping Island Under Britain

December 12, 1954, Sunday
Special to The New York Times.
Page 27, 304 words

DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - ANKARA, Turkey, Dec. 11 -- Leaders of the Turkish minority in Cyprus left Ankara today en route the United Nations. They will oppose Greece's demand for a plebiscite.

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract. ... 5F408585F9

[GreekForumer]

TIMELINE July 1822 - Change in demographics
Archbishop Kyprianos hanged. And 450+ prominent GCs get their heads chopped off. Thousands (15K?) of GCs flee Cyprus.

TIMELINE 1923-1924 - Change in demographics
Influx of Greeks due to population exchange. Don't know how many. Although not part of the exchange, some TCs go to Turkey.

TIMELINE 1939
Turkey expands with the sneaky annexation of the Republic of Hatay (40% Turks - go figure??)