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Postby pantelis » Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:02 pm

Papadopoulos himself called the 100 000 GC's that voted for a solution "nainaikides" meaning traitors,


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When and where, did he say that?
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Postby pantelis » Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:08 pm

Dear Insan,

What all you said above sound BS to me, Pantelis. Total, crap! You as a person who don't know how to properly communicate with the others;


Can you be more specific? This kind of short general response, is not like you! Is there something wrong?
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Postby pantelis » Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:25 pm

Yes, they exploit them by get them work illegaly, without any social insurance and paying less than 1/3 of what a GC with the same skills get. Why not TCs? You are right. Why not TCs for any other purposes as well, than the greedness.


Dear Insan, were you ever offered a job by a GC under the circumstances you described above?
I have never said there are no crooks in the south. In fact, I am sure that there are more crooks in the south than in the north. The difference is that, the crooks in the south eventually get caught and have to face the laws while in the north, the crooks are the ones who enforce the "laws".
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Postby Saint Jimmy » Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:36 pm

Bananiot wrote:Papadopoulos himself called the 100 000 GC's that voted for a solution "nainaikides" meaning traitors


Well, to be fair, Bananiot, 'nainaikides' doesn't exactly mean traitors... It's more of an accusation that those being called that are so eager for a solution that they'd accept anything, although, I suppose, it can be argued that it's also an indirect, subtler accusation of unpatriotism.
In addition, I read that Papadopoulos also described those who criticise the government on handling the 'No' vote, post-referendum, as 'kataptystous' (is the translation 'disgraceful'?), but I suppose that was mainly directed towards DI.SY.'s criticism.
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Postby Saint Jimmy » Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:01 pm

''[...]the “nationalists”, blinded by their nationalistic passion, called the Republic of Cyprus –when today they are warning about the danger of its dissolution– pseudostate and struck its flag! In his shows, Mr. Mavros exorcizes the junta and blames it for the coup d’ etat of 1974. It is certainly easy to criticize against the junta as the sole responsible for the tragedy in 1974, however a little self-criticism on the apre-1974 “over-nationalism” would not do any harm. People, and especially those who are forming the public opinion, should learn from their mistakes and should not try to reproduce them with a different wrapping.



Unfortunately, Lazaros Mavros, as many others with the same ideas, have not learned anything since 1974. Then, those who disagreed were traitors and conspirators in the efforts to surrender Cyprus to the Turks. Today, they attempt to slander them suggesting to the public opinion that they are bribed by the Americans and they denounce plots aiming at the dissolution of the Republic of Cyprus, whom they helped mutilate, but still which, they have fallen madly in love with lately. Back then, in the name of the Union, the “nationalists” of 1974 ruined Zurich agreements. Today, the same people in the same mentality are trying to kill the prospect of a solution in the name of Zurich!''



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Postby metecyp » Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:42 pm

Back then, in the name of the Union, the “nationalists” of 1974 ruined Zurich agreements. Today, the same people in the same mentality are trying to kill the prospect of a solution in the name of Zurich!''

Only in Cyprus...
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Postby boulio » Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:42 pm

its like a recuring nightmare.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:12 pm

Back then, in the name of the Union, the “nationalists” of 1974 ruined Zurich agreements. Today, the same people in the same mentality are trying to kill the prospect of a solution in the name of Zurich!''


1) They are not the same people. Actually it is the opposite. The same people that disrespected democracy and they tried to bring down our democratically elected president in 1974, today they are once again trying to force on the majority their opinion by all means.

2) As I said before Zurich made Cyprus a semi-banana republic. Annan plan would make it the best Banana republic in the world. It is very clear why the Zurich agreements, while far from perfect, are preferred over Annan plan kind of solutions.
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:57 am

The hard core EOKA B leaders, members and sympathisers voted against the solution, there is no doubt about this. Such people care only for "clean" solutions. That is why they are dead against the changes to the A plan suggested by DISI and AKEL last week. They are spearheaded by ANT1 and SIGMA TV's and their publications. What they object to, is the nature of the solution, that is, the bizonal, bicommunal federation that will guarntee political equality for the two communities.

Nainaikos, was a real person and he betrayed his country and the word nainaikos is a synonym to traitor. Papadopoulos knew exactly what he was saying (about 3 months ago, publically, in front of the cameras). He is playing a dirty communication trick just to score points within the society and he was doing exactly this when he was wildly accusing people that they accepted dollars in order to prosilytise voters to the "yes" camp. Such cheap and dirty methods do not befit a President, even of a banana republic.
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Postby Saint Jimmy » Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:00 am

Bananiot wrote:Nainaikos, was a real person and he betrayed his country and the word nainaikos is a synonym to traitor.


Is that right???
I had never heard of that before! :oops: :lol:
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