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[humanist]

can someone clarfy something for me please. Beth said that she should have been issued a Cyprus ID card is that right? or could she get a British ID card that can be used in Cyprus. That would be my understanding.

[coredump]

Any foreigner (not just EU citizens) legally living in Cyprus can get an ID card. Although it's not immigration who issue them, but another authority (do not remember... District Offices or Town Halls probably). They'll ask to see your pink/yellow slip in order to issue an ID card.

[ZKKHAN]

What is a stop list in Cyprus? How one can be removed from it?

[Get Real!]

What is a stop list in Cyprus?

It’s when the airlines recommend a frequent flyer be stopped upon boarding and offered first class tickets…

How one can be removed from it?

You sure?

[DT.]

What is a stop list in Cyprus?

It’s when the airlines recommend a frequent flyer be stopped upon boarding and offered first class tickets…

How one can be removed from it?

You sure?

Makes you wonder somtimes...

SOme people work their whole lives to get on that stop list, and then you have these ungrateful individuals.

[ZKKHAN]

BTW how many times you experienced it? GET Real and DT professor! I also want to experience it.

[DT.]

BTW how many times you experienced it? GET Real and DT professor! I also want to experience it.

Well if you know what it is why do you ask? BTW, why are you on it?

[rahmalia8]

I want to ask about the cancellation of cypriots nationality. I am a Lebanese originate, was married before in 1993 with a cypriots woman and we have 4 children. Me and my ex-wife were divorce 4 years ago. Now i hold a Cypriots nationality until now for almost 8 years. Because of a child support that i didn't pay to my ex-wife for 1 year, she said that she will cancel my cypriots nationality. Right now, my ex-wife and our children hold lebanese and cypriots citizenship. Is it true that my ex-wife can cancel my cypriots nationality because of this case whilst i've been a cypriots for 8 years. Could you give me any further information or solution in regards with my problem? And under what regulation that my ex-wife will use to cancel my citizenship. thanks

[Raymanoff]

Fury of man stripped of his citizenship
By Alexia Saoulli
(archive article - Sunday, February 3, 2008)

A 44-YEAR-old Egyptian man has discovered that he was stripped of his Cypriot citizenship in a decision he said was based on lies and falsehoods.

Nashat Moner – a naturalised Cypriot since 2002 – only found out about his change of status last week when he returned to Cyprus to secure citizenship for his newborn triplets.
“I went to the migration department to file the application and to give them my children’s birth certificates when they told me there was a problem. They then took my passport and said I was no longer allowed to have Cypriot citizenship,” he said.

Moner said he had not been made aware of his loss of citizenship because he had been contracted out to Spain on a six-month painting job since August last year. He only returned to Cyprus after his company gave him a month’s leave following the birth of his children on January 3.

He later found a letter posted to his home address informing him of the October 8, 2007 Cabinet decision.

In the letter, signed by the Interior Minister Christos Patsalides, the reasons given for stripping Moner of his citizenship were based on the fact that it had allegedly been secured based on “deceit, false pretences and by hiding substantial facts”.

But the 44-year-old believes the government’s real motive was to try and get rid of him after he kicked up a fuss to have his second wife join him here from Egypt.

“I think it’s when I tried to bring my wife over. They kept refusing to give her a visa to come over, but wouldn’t say why,” he said.

In August 2006, the Cyprus Mail ran a story on how the Interior Ministry had repeatedly blocked his 34-year-old wife Sherin from joining her husband on the island. They had already been married a year at the time.

No one had been available for comment from the Interior Ministry then and no one was available for comment yesterday.

Moner said he was at a complete loss about what to do.

“What is this? They can just strip me of my nationality just like that? I’ve been here nearly 20 years. I have my own [painting] business. I pay taxes, social insurance. What, they can just take my passport and say leave? They’re saying that I didn’t live with my first wife for 10 years when I did. Can’t a man get divorced and get married again? What am I supposed to do? Leave Cyprus and go to Egypt? To do what? I have three children now and they are entitled to Cypriot citizenship too. I have been a law-abiding citizen. I have all my papers in order. How can they do this?”

The 44-year-old said he had put a lawyer on to it and that he had no intention of accepting the decision without a fight.

The decision was based on the conclusions of a report prepared by a Cabinet appointed investigative committee.

In its report, the committee said Moner had come to Cyprus in 1991 on a temporary visitor’s visa but had illegally stayed 17 months. Despite being blacklisted, he returned to the country six months later in 1993 and married his first Greek Cypriot wife. He was then granted citizenship in 2002 and divorced in 2003.

Moner said he had not returned on a false passport and that he had the documentation to prove it from his own embassy.

The report said he had also been convicted of assaulting a police officer and for buying stolen goods, in 1999 and 2000 respectively. Moner said the police officer had assaulted him and that he’d acted in self defence. The second offence was when he was found in possession of a stolen mobile, which he said he’d bought for £30 in good faith.

According to the three-member committee, the 44-year-old’s marriage had started out well and then ended up in conflict. Moner told the Mail his marriage had collapsed due to his wife’s gambling habit.

“Based on these facts as revealed in documents and subsequent investigations,” the committee said the Interior Minister had submitted a proposal to the Cabinet asking it to approve an order to strip Moner from his citizenship and to inform the 44-year-old of the decision in writing.

The committee said it had carefully examined Moner’s “activities and behaviour since his arrival in Cyprus”.

In its report, they said Moner had appeared before them and had claimed he had not filed for citizenship under false pretences and that he had been living with his wife in harmony. Moner’s wife also told the committee a similar story, but apparently she was not a reliable witness because “she appeared confused and willing to say anything, even lie to support her ex-husband in his effort not to lose his Cypriot citizenship”. The committee said she kept contradicting herself and couldn’t remember facts and dates and was “generally deemed unreliable” and her “testimony could not be counted on”.

Meanwhile, Denia’s community leader, where the couple had resided, told the committee members in a telephone conversation that he had signed an affidavit that the couple had been cohabiting together until 2003 without knowing the exact facts or details.

Other than its disbelief of the facts as presented to them by Moner and his ex-wife, the report made no reference as to how the 44-year-old had allegedly managed to dupe authorities and secure a passport and citizenship in the first place.

“Surely the government doesn’t just hand out passports. Are they saying the Cypriot authorities botched things up by failing to do their job properly? This is just craziness. They must have checked everything out and now they’re deciding it’s time to take it off him. This is ridiculous and a joke. I’ve been here 25 years. If I decide to get divorced tomorrow, will I be kicked off the island which is now the only place I call home,” a friend of Moner’s said.

“Obviously no foreigner is secure in this country any more,” he said.

The report concluded that Moner had shown “bad behaviour” since arriving in Cyprus.
“From the evidence in his file it is clear he is a man who doesn’t hesitate to use lies, deceit, blackmail or violence to achieve his goal.”

It said he had been given citizenship based on his marriage to a Greek Cypriot but that as soon as he’d got what he’d wanted he could only wait six to eight months before starting divorce proceedings.

The report said he’d lied in 2001 on his citizenship application that he and his wife were living together harmoniously.

The committee said it was “convinced” Moner had simply married his first wife for citizenship. It also said it could not imagine how it was in the public’s interest to allow a man with Moner’s attitude and behaviour to remain on the island.

“He came on holiday for a week and stayed 17 months as an illegal immigrant. After that he left and returned under false pretences. He married a Greek Cypriot to secure his Cypriot citizenship even though he was convicted twice by Cypriot courts. In our judgement it is not in the public interest to allow the applicant to retain his Cypriot citizenship,” the report said.

[ahristos]

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