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[DT.]

Were you as equally humane when you were throwing us out of our homes and lands?

Actually I see a hidden desire from you to change the demographics on our expense. Whatever the implications might have been.

we weren't blessed by turkish blood for VP to feel the same sympathy to our cause no matter how much greater our strife was than what these temporary opportunistic settlers will go through.

[Kikapu]

They can be deported very humanely don't worry. All they need is money from those who brought them here. So don't ask for an agreement with us. Make whatever agreement you like with Turkey and SOLVE THE PROBLEM. This is NOT a problem that concerns US.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I couldn't care less if they've lived here for three decades or not... I want them all out period. These are illegal Anatolians and belong in Turkey not here!

As I said before, that the settlers will leave on their own accord once they realize that they will not be able to remain in the properties that belong to others, and do not have the money to pay for it. They will also leave, because unlike Turkish Cypriots who have a history in sharing the island with the GC's, the Anatolians do not, therefore they will not want to remain in Cyprus, unless they were able to form their own community in one corner of the island. If there are growing problems between the TC's and the Turks now, as it has been mentioned by others on the forum, it will be even worse, between the GC's and the Turks in the future.

[Get Real!]

They can be deported very humanely don't worry. All they need is money from those who brought them here. So don't ask for an agreement with us. Make whatever agreement you like with Turkey and SOLVE THE PROBLEM. This is NOT a problem that concerns US.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I couldn't care less if they've lived here for three decades or not... I want them all out period. These are illegal Anatolians and belong in Turkey not here!

As I said before, that the settlers will leave on their own accord once they realize that they will not be able to remain in the properties that belong to others, and do not have the money to pay for it. They will also leave, because unlike Turkish Cypriots who have a history in sharing the island with the GC's, the Anatolians do not, therefore they will not want to remain in Cyprus, unless they were able to form their own community in one corner of the island. If there are growing problems between the TC's and the Turks now, as it has been mentioned by others on the forum, it will be even worse, between the GC's and the Turks in the future.

I doubt they’ll budge without any “encouragement” because Cyprus is in the EU so they probably think it’s cool. But yes you’re right, if they stay here it will be a time bomb waiting to go off in the future. Tomorrow they’ll rise up and want partition and we’ll all go back to zero again!

I’ve always believed that if and when we (Cypriots) find the way to remove Turkey from the whole equation everything else can be easily sorted out.

[Kikapu]

Were you as equally humane when you were throwing us out of our homes and lands?

Actually I see a hidden desire from you to change the demographics on our expense. Whatever the implications might have been.

we weren't blessed by turkish blood for VP to feel the same sympathy to our cause no matter how much greater our strife was than what these temporary opportunistic settlers will go through.

VP feels empathy for the settlers, because in a way, he is one himself, except that he comes from the UK and not from Turkey, born to Cypriot Parents. He wants the settlers to stay, so that the numerical numbers of the Turkish Speaking people does not go down drastically, if only True TC's remained on the island, which would make our percentage go down below the 18%, from what we had in the 1960's.

But here is a question to my GC friends on the forum. If we were given a proposal to have a long lasting peace where everyone's rights were restored and that we would have a True Democracy, and with no outside Guarantors to interfere in Cyprus politics, since we are in the EU now, would you say NO to all this if it meant, that most of the settlers would remain on the island, considering most will remain in the Northern part of Cyprus, specially if we had a BBF system. Will the settlers be a "deal breaker" or can we adjust to live with them, considering the fact, large majority will leave on their own accord anyway. In order for all this to happen, only if Turkey has been given the "Green Light" to enter the EU, so at the end of the day, the whole settlers issue will be nothing but academics, since they will be considered Europeans anyway.

[Jerry]

The political situation in Turkey is the key to the whole problem. Can that country's determination to hang on to part of Cyprus be reversed? We have seen how unbending the Turks have been with the EU over the ports issue, they even appear to be willing to give up EU membership over that relatively minor issue so how can they be persuaded to give up the occupation? Even the ability of the US is to put pressure on Turkey is questionable now with the recent F16 incidents. I think we will have to wait and see how events evolve in Turkey, and of course a shift in attitude by TPap towards Talat would probably help too.

[DT.]

Were you as equally humane when you were throwing us out of our homes and lands?

Actually I see a hidden desire from you to change the demographics on our expense. Whatever the implications might have been.

we weren't blessed by turkish blood for VP to feel the same sympathy to our cause no matter how much greater our strife was than what these temporary opportunistic settlers will go through.

VP feels empathy for the settlers, because in a way, he is one himself, except that he comes from the UK and not from Turkey, born to Cypriot Parents. He wants the settlers to stay, so that the numerical numbers of the Turkish Speaking people does not go down drastically, if only True TC's remained on the island, which would make our percentage go down below the 18%, from what we had in the 1960's.

But here is a question to my GC friends on the forum. If we were given a proposal to have a long lasting peace where everyone's rights were restored and that we would have a True Democracy, and with no outside Guarantors to interfere in Cyprus politics, since we are in the EU now, would you say NO to all this if it meant, that most of the settlers would remain on the island, considering most will remain in the Northern part of Cyprus, specially if we had a BBF system. Will the settlers be a "deal breaker" or can we adjust to live with them, considering the fact, large majority will leave on their own accord anyway. In order for all this to happen, only if Turkey has been given the "Green Light" to enter the EU, so at the end of the day, the whole settlers issue will be nothing but academics, since they will be considered Europeans anyway.

don't think it would be the dealbreaker. WHat probably would happen is if they're still around, the cost of living and the lack of govt subsidies would force them to return over time anyway. Those that manage to compete with the TC's and GC's on commerce and finance will find a way to stay.

It'll come down to economics.

[MR-from-NG]

They can be deported very humanely don't worry. All they need is money from those who brought them here. So don't ask for an agreement with us. Make whatever agreement you like with Turkey and SOLVE THE PROBLEM. This is NOT a problem that concerns US.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I couldn't care less if they've lived here for three decades or not... I want them all out period. These are illegal Anatolians and belong in Turkey not here!

As I said before, that the settlers will leave on their own accord once they realize that they will not be able to remain in the properties that belong to others, and do not have the money to pay for it. They will also leave, because unlike Turkish Cypriots who have a history in sharing the island with the GC's, the Anatolians do not, therefore they will not want to remain in Cyprus, unless they were able to form their own community in one corner of the island. If there are growing problems between the TC's and the Turks now, as it has been mentioned by others on the forum, it will be even worse, between the GC's and the Turks in the future.

I doubt they’ll budge without any “encouragement” because Cyprus is in the EU so they probably think it’s cool. But yes you’re right, if they stay here it will be a time bomb waiting to go off in the future. Tomorrow they’ll rise up and want partition and we’ll all go back to zero again!

I’ve always believed that if and when we (Cypriots) find the way to remove Turkey from the whole equation everything else can be easily sorted out.[/quote]

As easy as taking candy from a baby. Funnily enough we believe exactly the same as you GR.

Hence Turkeys involvement is vital for us.

[MR-from-NG]

They can be deported very humanely don't worry. All they need is money from those who brought them here. So don't ask for an agreement with us. Make whatever agreement you like with Turkey and SOLVE THE PROBLEM. This is NOT a problem that concerns US.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I couldn't care less if they've lived here for three decades or not... I want them all out period. These are illegal Anatolians and belong in Turkey not here!

Hahahaha, you'll realise in years to come that the settlers are a much better bunch to deal with than the Romanians and Bulgarians that is flooding Cyprus as we speak.

One of the main reasons I will be retiring in the TRNC is the fact that England will never be the same with this stupid EU rules of freedom of movement.

I personally would choose to have Turkish settlers in my back yard than these undesirables any day.

[Viewpoint]

They can be deported very humanely don't worry. All they need is money from those who brought them here. So don't ask for an agreement with us. Make whatever agreement you like with Turkey and SOLVE THE PROBLEM. This is NOT a problem that concerns US.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I couldn't care less if they've lived here for three decades or not... I want them all out period. These are illegal Anatolians and belong in Turkey not here!

As I said before, that the settlers will leave on their own accord once they realize that they will not be able to remain in the properties that belong to others, and do not have the money to pay for it. They will also leave, because unlike Turkish Cypriots who have a history in sharing the island with the GC's, the Anatolians do not, therefore they will not want to remain in Cyprus, unless they were able to form their own community in one corner of the island. If there are growing problems between the TC's and the Turks now, as it has been mentioned by others on the forum, it will be even worse, between the GC's and the Turks in the future.

I doubt they’ll budge without any “encouragement” because Cyprus is in the EU so they probably think it’s cool. But yes you’re right, if they stay here it will be a time bomb waiting to go off in the future. Tomorrow they’ll rise up and want partition and we’ll all go back to zero again!

I’ve always believed that if and when we (Cypriots) find the way to remove Turkey from the whole equation everything else can be easily sorted out.

Sorted out the GC way? Turkey is our only guarantee that you guys willtake us seriously and into the equation otherwise you will do everything humanely possible to ensure we are down graded to a minority in our own country, which we want to have say in. Turkey will only leave after a comprehensive solution has been found where you will not have the freedom to do as wish with TCs, we do not want to be ruled purely by GCs, we demand a say in our own future.

[Viewpoint]

Were you as equally humane when you were throwing us out of our homes and lands?

Actually I see a hidden desire from you to change the demographics on our expense. Whatever the implications might have been.

we weren't blessed by turkish blood for VP to feel the same sympathy to our cause no matter how much greater our strife was than what these temporary opportunistic settlers will go through.

This is a thread regarding settlers but I would ask you if you know anything about my views concerning GC refugees? If you do not then how can you even pass judgement on how I sympathise with GCs.