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Postby Rain » Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:58 pm

Soon all this will be over so do not worry, it will take about 10-15 years that the North population will be consisting of Mainland settlers only. Hence, the GC's will have to deal with them instead of the TC's.
As for Gizzy I advice her to find a good lad in Cardif and get married,have a half dozen kids and expand her Genetics in Great Britain.For the ones that are in Australia I will advice them to start Shark Fishing and export to the forum members in Britain for their Fish and Chip shops. For the ones in Cyprus start to play Tavli and smoke Nargile, leave the politics to the polititians who are getting payed not to find any settlement as they will be loosing the loot.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:22 pm

http://www.cypnet.com/north_cyprus_abou ... c_info.php

Even Turkish sources say that only 25,000 TCs were living in enclaves. (Out of 120,000 before 1974). This brakes down the myth that the TCs were living concentrated in 3% of Cyprus before 1974.

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The second and more intense phase of Turkish Cypriot emigration began after inter-communal strife increased in late 1963. Living conditions for Turkish Cypriots worsened as about 25,000 of them, faced with Greek Cypriot violence, gathered in several enclaves around the island.
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Postby pitsilos » Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:36 pm

Soon all this will be over so do not worry, it will take about 10-15 years that the North population will be consisting of Mainland settlers only. Hence, the GC's will have to deal with them instead of the TC's.


and this doesn't ring alarm bells?

so kikapu is right afterall, the settlers are commitiing a genoside on the tcs and the odd thing is, the victims are happy to go along :shock:

a fucking sad state of affairs... :(
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Postby bigOz » Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:53 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Just read what it says on the right corner loud and clear for our audience to hear. :razz:

This exactly what it says in the right hand corner!

60,000 TCs from 103 abandoned villages lived as refugees for 11 years until 1974.

In 1975, under an exchange of population agreement between the two communities, the final movement of 65,000 Turkish Cypriots to the North was completed by September 1975.
(Included hundreds of my family members)

As for your map reading, it is no more accurate than anything else you have tried to claim so far. The red areas signify where there were many TC villages nearby – not the actual areas occupied by the TCs! For example, any fool who lived before 1974 and is alive today, knows that the red area between Limassol and Paphos does not represent their local enclave but signifies the volume of land they owned surrounding the enclaves.

We all know all that area was under Greek Cypriot control at all times with no barricades or border posts! But “enclaves” is used within the context of where large proportions of TC population lived separate from the GCs. I doubt they were more than 3-4 % of Cyprus – something also documented by international observers and their subsequent reference to the situation.

I do not see anything funny there - do you? :roll:

Furthermore, your quote:
The second and more intense phase of Turkish Cypriot emigration began after inter-communal strife increased in late 1963. Living conditions for Turkish Cypriots worsened as about 25,000 of them, faced with Greek Cypriot violence, gathered in several enclaves around the island.

Is in conflict with your groundless claim in an earlier post where you stated "Most TCs emigrated before 1960". 8)
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:26 pm

bigOZ wrote: This exactly what it says in the right hand corner!


I now seriously doubt your intelligence. What it says on the right corner simply proves it’s a Turkish source. The map clearly shows the so called enclaves were not 3%.

wrote: As for your map reading, it is no more accurate than anything else you have tried to claim so far. The red areas signify where there were many TC villages nearby – not the actual areas occupied by the TCs! For example, any fool who lived before 1974 and is alive today, knows that the red area between Limassol and Paphos does not represent their local enclave but signifies the volume of land they owned surrounding the enclaves.


Oh, yeah? So are you now going to dispute what your own people write on their so called 3% maps? Or are you going to invent a new definition for what an enclave was?The legend on the map clearly says: Solid red= TURKISH CYPRIOT ENCLAVES

Besides the map deliberately leaves out too many areas which were fully controlled by TCs. As for example inside the town of Larnaca, and Half the town of Nicosia.

wrote: Is in conflict with your groundless claim in an earlier post where you stated "Most TCs emigrated before 1960".


Of course it is in conflict. I already said it’s a Turkish source. Man you are disapointing me more and more… :cry:
And what I actually said is this:
"The vast majority of people emigrated for better life. In fact percentagewise the percentage of TCs in UK is proportional to that of the GCs. And most emigration happened before 1963"

In fact you have to look at various sources to pick the reasons and the waves of cypriot migration. I already proved you from (yet again) another Turkish source the emigration in the 60s was due to the new commowealth laws on immigration, that almost coincided with the 1963 and 1967 events.The same source says "some TCs also emigrated because of the political events", therefore this was an added reason but not the main reason. All clearly told by Turkish sources. What else do you want?

See you ‘ve been feeded with so many lies over the years one has to use various Turkish sources to pick those lies one by one. One says this lie the other the other lie. But obviously no one would take them seriously f they containe ALL lies. They have to put some truths in.

Soooo, from this source you can pick up the truth that only 25,000 (1 out of 5) TCs moved to enclaves. So if 1 out of 5 moved into enclaves how they were packed in just 3%. Man admit it, the so called 3% was the Nicosia to Kionelli enclave.

From memory -I think it was in the Cyprus conflict web site- this 3% was first used by a student doing his thesis in Ankara. Yet that guy was clearly referring to the Nicosia-Kionelli enclave where he himself lived. It was a social study of his OWN LIFE. From there on others liked the lie and spread it like dust in your brains. Unbeleivable…..

NB.1) Not even the Turkish drawer of the map dares to say it was 3%!! :wink:
2)That map was first posted in this forum by Kifeas.
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