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[Pyrpolizer]

Just out of curiosity I rechecked the first result on google search that subscribes to the official theory of pancake fall.

http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/01 ... -0112.html


referring to figure 5 he says "As the joists on one or two of the most heavily burned floors gave way and the outer box columns began to bow outward, the floors above them also fell."

.Thats nonsense. He assumes the building started falling from the point where the most heavily burned floors were. IT WAS NOT LIKE THAT! I watched the fall from various sources frame by frame (on 25 frames per second videos) the fall started from the very top. Not from the heavily burned floors. When the top floor collapsed (the one with the TV antena on top) nothing happened to the burned floors. I was very careful to watch when exactly the burned floors started falling, and I urge everyone to do the same and see for himself.

He also makes another mistake of not mentioning at all that as the steel floor joists expanded (because of heat), the grip at the angle clips should toughen, but that's a minor point anyway.

[GorillaGal]

first off pyropolizer, i am not "retarded," as you claim, and nor is anyone else who is bold enough not to spout off about something they don't know. i do not know why #7 fell. i said i am not an engineer. so why are you pushing me to make a suggstion as to why it fell. i already said i don't know. and it does notmake me an idiot for not knowing.
i am a new yorker. i was, and still am, devestated by what happened on 9-11. i lost my job that day. and my community lost at least a dozen people. i had alot of anxiety over those evesnts that lasted for a few years, and i had to go on medication because of it.
quiet frankly, i don't care WHY they fell. it's over and done with, and i can't bring them back, nor the people that died that day. that was the worst day of my life. i don't need to keep reliving it.

this thread has already been done. go check the archives.

[devil]

Firstly, it is clear you know absolutely nothing about a) fire propagation b) metallurgy c) structural ironwork.

Secondly, it is clear that you base your judgement uniquely on a film made by fruitcakes.

Thirdly, it is clear you have not read the scientific reports based on the computer modelling of what really happened (maybe you prefer to watch the visual media as reading such reports is totally beyond the understanding of a deranged mind)

Fourthly, by your own stupid statements, the explosions were at the bottom but the collapse was at the top. A likely story.

Fifthly, the earth is not flat.

Just admit you are wrong or, if you won't, make that appointment with a psy saying you are suffering from delusions.

Finally, just consider that you are insulting the memory of the ~3,000 persons who died in this tragedy. You are SICK!

Last post by me in this thread.

[Pyrpolizer]

You are beyond cure. Just forget it.

Long live in your dreamland.

[Pyrpolizer]

first off pyropolizer, i am not "retarded," as you claim, and nor is anyone else who is bold enough not to spout off about something they don't know. i do not know why #7 fell. i said i am not an engineer. so why are you pushing me to make a suggstion as to why it fell. i already said i don't know. and it does notmake me an idiot for not knowing.
i am a new yorker. i was, and still am, devestated by what happened on 9-11. i lost my job that day. and my community lost at least a dozen people. i had alot of anxiety over those evesnts that lasted for a few years, and i had to go on medication because of it.
quiet frankly, i don't care WHY they fell. it's over and done with, and i can't bring them back, nor the people that died that day. that was the worst day of my life. i don't need to keep reliving it.

this thread has already been done. go check the archives.

Since YOU DON'T KNOW my dear how dared you calling me names before joining the other idiot who said nothing else so far?

Btw I never called you a retarded. I said even a retarded person (which i assume you are not) would be able to give an answer and his/her answer would be the 3rd building fell to express it's sympathy to the other 2


The strange thing is, that person would not be far away from the truth....

[GorillaGal]

pyrodude--call the shrink or learn how to read. i never called you a name. never.
re-read it, again and again until you understand what i said.

[DT.]

CUt it out Pyro. WHy does everyone have to agree with your conspiracy theories. If everyone believes it then they wouldn't be conspiracies now would they...

GG was personally touched by this tragedy. How would you feel if some american came and told you that the invasion in 74 didn't happen.

[Pyrpolizer]

I never asked anyone to agree DT. In fact my initial post was a question. All I received was swearing and absolutely no answers to my questions. Sure I have my personal convictions on the matter....

I don't think your 1974 analogy (of whether it happened) is correct. A better analogy would be if the 1974 invasion was pre-agreed between the Greek hunta, the CIA, and Turkey.

Anyway I got what I wanted to learn about this matter from all those who participated in this topic.

[Pyrpolizer]

pyrodude--call the shrink or learn how to read. i never called you a name. never.
re-read it, again and again until you understand what i said.

Yeah, yeah, right. Others were calling me names and you were just seconding up or calling the shrinks using your mobile.

God save America, (who cares) and the rest of the world.

[GorillaGal]

Pyrpolizer,
you got answers. i told you i was not an expert on building domolition/engineering/ architecture. ask me about dentisty and pets, i'll have answers. you don't go see a real estate agent if you have a cough that won't go away, or a pain in your side. and i think DT's analogy was right on target.