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[MR-from-NG]

The TC's have been taking advantage of land that does not belong to them for a long time and now they are selling our land to foreigners.

DT the way they are going they will pretty soon sell all of it.. Then what? I really wonder. I said it before and I will repeat it now: The TCs proved experts in doing fatal mistakes… They are not even able to realize those mistakes are the ones that will eventually wipe them off from Cyprus. First fatal mistake the import of settlers.

What a strange world we live in. Here's Pyrpolizer telling us we are blind to our mistakes, we have been saying the exact same thing about the GCs for the last 47 years.

We will wake up when you do Pyrp, sweet dreams

[DT.]

The TC's have been taking advantage of land that does not belong to them for a long time and now they are selling our land to foreigners.

DT the way they are going they will pretty soon sell all of it.. Then what? I really wonder. I said it before and I will repeat it now: The TCs proved experts in doing fatal mistakes… They are not even able to realize those mistakes are the ones that will eventually wipe them off from Cyprus. First fatal mistake the import of settlers.

What a strange world we live in. Here's Pyrpolizer telling us we are blind to our mistakes, we have been saying the exact same thing about the GCs for the last 47 years.

We will wake up when you do Pyrp, sweet dreams

Mrfromng i take it you are equating our refusal to recognise the north as a separate country with the TC's selling of land that doesn't belong to them. Am i right?

[zan]

Nothing to stop refugees selling property in north to foreigners
By Nassos Stylianou

DISY DEPUTY Giorgos Georgiou yesterday continued the debate over illegal property transactions by saying there was nothing in the law that deterred Cypriots from selling their property companies in the north to foreigners.
According to Georgiou, the reason that he chose to give his list of high-profile names of Greek Cypriots involved in such transactions to the Interior Minister and not the Attorney-general was because there was nothing in the law that stopped this from taking place.

“There is no legislation that stops Cypriot companies that were established before 1974 in the north from selling their shares to anyone in particular from abroad. Nothing,” Georgiou told state radio yesterday.

In a dramatic day regarding the issue of Greek Cypriot property in the north on Thursday, Georgiou told the House of Representatives that he had evidence and names that when publicised, would “give a lot of people heart attacks”.
The DISY deputy said that economic factors were also involved, while he also claimed another plot, where Greek Cypriot land developers were working in association with Turkish Cypriots and foreigners to sell the properties of refugees.
“There are developers working in conjunction with illegal offices in the north and we have had a number of allegations from refugees who claim that they have been approached by these people who told them that they can put them in touch with foreign companies that can sell their properties,” he added.

According to the newly appointed Government Spokesman, Vasilis Palmas, this phenomenon was not new to the government.

“This is not something that has come to light today, it is something that has been happening for some time now. It is up to the people to judge these actions but I have to say that only with the solution to the Cyprus problem will this stop,” he said.
DIKO party leader Marios Karoyian said yesterday that politicians in Cyprus should refrain from making such shock statements at the House if they have not been substantiated.

“Comments on this matter especially should not be made without them being verified. The danger of this is that the wrong messages are given about abroad,” he commented.
Meanwhile the British High Commission yesterday denied it had ever advised a Greek Cypriot refugee to take his claim to the property commission in the north.
According to refugee from Yerolakkos, British officials had told him to appeal to the commission and to act in secrecy when doing so.

Yesterday, the British High Commission released a statement denying that their staff told anyone to appeal to the commission, adding that given the perplexity of the issue, they advised people to seek legal advice.

Attorney-general Petros Clerides said that while a fuss should not be made about the issue just yet, there were questions that remained unanswered.

“This needs to be looked into in order to determine whether these are just the actions of an irresponsible individual, in which case he would have a host of questions to answer to, or whether it is the policy of the British High Commission,” he said. “On the other hand, there is the question on why the refugee contacted the British High Commission and not the Cypriot authorities.”



Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2007

[zan]

Greek London property agents marketing land in northern Cyprus 270407

In an exclusive investigation by the London Greek News team into the marketing and selling of property from northern Cyprus several well known property agents owned by or managed by Greeks are actively selling such properties. Our investigation into the active marketing of these properties saw one of our under cover journalists visit one of the agents located in Southgate north London and pretend to be an Irish investor interested in purchasing land or substantial sea fronted properties in northern Cyprus. The agent who at this point can only be named as Michael for legal reasons proceeded to show brochures and maps of properties in Kyrenia, Lapitho and areas of Morphou The LGN buyer then proceeded to ask about the issue of ownership and if these properties were linked to Greek Cypriots or Turkish Cypriots. The response was "...we simply market them we do not ask questions as far as we know the properties are legally owned by the vendor". In this new twist to the vexed property ownership issue in the occupied territories of northern Cyprus the move by unscrupoulous Greek property agents to sell their heritage for a profit should be condemned and boycotts of these companies should take place. The details of the property agent will be disclosed following clearance from the LGN legal team.

[MR-from-NG]

The TC's have been taking advantage of land that does not belong to them for a long time and now they are selling our land to foreigners.

DT the way they are going they will pretty soon sell all of it.. Then what? I really wonder. I said it before and I will repeat it now: The TCs proved experts in doing fatal mistakes… They are not even able to realize those mistakes are the ones that will eventually wipe them off from Cyprus. First fatal mistake the import of settlers.

What a strange world we live in. Here's Pyrpolizer telling us we are blind to our mistakes, we have been saying the exact same thing about the GCs for the last 47 years.

We will wake up when you do Pyrp, sweet dreams

Mrfromng i take it you are equating our refusal to recognise the north as a separate country with the TC's selling of land that doesn't belong to them. Am i right?

You could say one of the many mistakes by the GCs. Your list of mistakes is long. 1960, signing the constitution not worth the paper its written on. 1963, the desire for ENOSIS and the ethnic cleansing of TCs. 1974, see 1963. 2004 Lied and cheated your way into the EU. 2004 rejection of the Annan plan, thus showing the rest of the world including the EU that your politics has always been dirty and unethical.

As for GCland. This is what an English owned estate agent told me when I was looking for an acre of land to build on and asked specifically for TC owned land, his exact words were "every inch of land in the North of Cyprus is TC owned land you of all people should know this". My point being with this attitude your chances of finding any GC owned land in the next decade or so will be nil. You wont find Any with a magnifying glass. And to be honest I used to sympathise with the GCs.

And do you know what, since I joined the forum and seeing the type of people the GC's really are I'm now a changed person and my conscience is clear when I think and say you all got what you deserved.

[DT.]

The TC's have been taking advantage of land that does not belong to them for a long time and now they are selling our land to foreigners.

DT the way they are going they will pretty soon sell all of it.. Then what? I really wonder. I said it before and I will repeat it now: The TCs proved experts in doing fatal mistakes… They are not even able to realize those mistakes are the ones that will eventually wipe them off from Cyprus. First fatal mistake the import of settlers.

What a strange world we live in. Here's Pyrpolizer telling us we are blind to our mistakes, we have been saying the exact same thing about the GCs for the last 47 years.

We will wake up when you do Pyrp, sweet dreams

Mrfromng i take it you are equating our refusal to recognise the north as a separate country with the TC's selling of land that doesn't belong to them. Am i right?

You could say one of the many mistakes by the GCs. Your list of mistakes is long. 1960, signing the constitution not worth the paper its written on. 1963, the desire for ENOSIS and the ethnic cleansing of TCs. 1974, see 1963. 2004 Lied and cheated your way into the EU. 2004 rejection of the Annan plan, thus showing the rest of the world including the EU that your politics has always been dirty and unethical.

As for GCland. This is what an English owned estate agent told me when I was looking for an acre of land to build on and asked specifically for TC owned land, his exact words were "every inch of land in the North of Cyprus is TC owned land you of all people should know this". My point being with this attitude your chances of finding any GC owned land in the next decade or so will be nil. You wont find Any with a magnifying glass. And to be honest I used to sympathise with the GCs.

And do you know what, since I joined the forum and seeing the type of people the GC's really are I'm now a changed person and my conscience is clear when I think and say you all got what you deserved.

I guess its the principles in a person that make the difference. Some consider theft for what it is and others find excuses for it.

[zan]

The TC's have been taking advantage of land that does not belong to them for a long time and now they are selling our land to foreigners.

DT the way they are going they will pretty soon sell all of it.. Then what? I really wonder. I said it before and I will repeat it now: The TCs proved experts in doing fatal mistakes… They are not even able to realize those mistakes are the ones that will eventually wipe them off from Cyprus. First fatal mistake the import of settlers.

What a strange world we live in. Here's Pyrpolizer telling us we are blind to our mistakes, we have been saying the exact same thing about the GCs for the last 47 years.

We will wake up when you do Pyrp, sweet dreams

Mrfromng i take it you are equating our refusal to recognise the north as a separate country with the TC's selling of land that doesn't belong to them. Am i right?

You could say one of the many mistakes by the GCs. Your list of mistakes is long. 1960, signing the constitution not worth the paper its written on. 1963, the desire for ENOSIS and the ethnic cleansing of TCs. 1974, see 1963. 2004 Lied and cheated your way into the EU. 2004 rejection of the Annan plan, thus showing the rest of the world including the EU that your politics has always been dirty and unethical.

As for GCland. This is what an English owned estate agent told me when I was looking for an acre of land to build on and asked specifically for TC owned land, his exact words were "every inch of land in the North of Cyprus is TC owned land you of all people should know this". My point being with this attitude your chances of finding any GC owned land in the next decade or so will be nil. You wont find Any with a magnifying glass. And to be honest I used to sympathise with the GCs.

And do you know what, since I joined the forum and seeing the type of people the GC's really are I'm now a changed person and my conscience is clear when I think and say you all got what you deserved.

mrfromng
I hate to pull you up here because I know exactly where you are coming from but I have to say to you that I refuse to believe that this forum is representative of the GC on the street. I realise that the undertones exhibited here is worrying because the education system is teaching them completely the wrong things and they have no perception of what is really going on but you have to appreciate the elements that are at work here. I really mean work as well. It sticks out like a sore thumb as to what is happening here and I welcome it. It shows others the Greek propaganda machine at work and how bad they have become at it. The truth through slow channels can be killed but the Internet has given us a lightning fast method of spreading our story and the truth. They have no answers when it comes to the realities of what happened and you have to appreciate that it is hard for them to take in. The machine you see here is not the people. I do not believe any one of us deserved what happened in Cyprus but we need to wake up to the realities. Those realities are not what the GCs want to hear but I do think that most of them on the street have seen what is coming and have made provisions for it. The rest are still flapping about on the riverbank.

[DT.]

As i said, its the principles in people that make the difference. The fact that you are TC makes no difference on your opinions. If you were GC I'd still be pointing out a lack of principles.

[zan]

As i said, its the principles in people that make the difference. The fact that you are TC makes no difference on your opinions. If you were GC I'd still be pointing out a lack of principles.

[MR-from-NG]

As i said, its the principles in people that make the difference. The fact that you are TC makes no difference on your opinions. If you were GC I'd still be pointing out a lack of principles.

Please DT, stop this nonsense. I looked at all your posts, have not come across a single post where you point out to your fellow GCs their lack of principles regarding the injustices on the TCs. If by some chance I missed it then please direct me to it.

You may be a man of principles but as a community you stink,