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Refugees and The Right of Return

Postby magikthrill » Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:56 am

SInce we have been discussing about this in many posts I decided to post a new thread on this subject.

So most of you understand that I do not think a solution should ever be accepted where ALL refugees have the right to return. Both GCs and TCs.

By putting "conditions" on refugee return as turkcyp has stated it seems to me that what the TCs are basically saying is

"Ok you can keep all the properties we abandoned in the South, PLUS we will give you back some of the property we stole and in exchange our state will be recognized and we get to enjoy all EU benefits"

I'm sorry but I personally don't see that working.
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Postby tcypriot » Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:45 pm

It worked for you when you stole the Turkish Cypriots lands and forced them to live in ghettos amounting %3 of the island, it worked for you when you stole the lives of more than 1000 Turkish Cypriots, it worked for you when you occupied the Cyprus Republic and turned it into a hellenic terrorist regime, it worked for you when 20000(twenty thousand) mainland greek occupation soldiers + 10000s of Greek Cypriot terrorists were attacking the Glorious Turkish Cypriot Nation, that against such a superior oppressor could only defend very small ghettos where people had to live in homes for a family of 5 with 50 other people.

We're not some foreigners that know nothing about Cyprus and you can fool with your meaningless propaganda.Dont be mistaken! We're also Cypriots, we lived through the Turkish Cypriot Genocide, and we know the Cyprus history.

The stolen lives of the Turkish Cypriots between 1963 and 1974 actually can make any action of the Turkish Cypriots just, they could just easily have said,"we do not want a common state with a community that did nothing to stop the genocide against us." but yet the glorious and yet forgiving Turkish Cypriot Nation, offered you a peaceful handshake, and without a shame, under the command of the ex-genocide master Papadoppolos, you rejected "PEACE" with the Turkish Cypriot Nation, with reasons trying to point to the lie that you actually were the only victims of the Cyprus Problem.
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Postby magikthrill » Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:54 pm

hahahhahahahahhahahahah

hahhahahahhahahahhahahah

oh my god that was so funny.

first of all i was born 10 years after the invasion so i didnt do anything.

and second of all, TCs are offering a peaceful handshake? lol, yes the reason why the breakway state is in international isolation is because GCs are so powerful that they control the whole world.

i wont comment on how dillusional you are though. thats pretty self-explanatory from your post.
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Postby brother » Sun Feb 06, 2005 3:56 pm

And obviousley not fully aware of the truth hence your laughing like a complete lunatic.

What tcypriot wrote above is fact but you not being a cypriot would not know that but yet again i advise you to go and read up on an unbiased info. source and learn the facts, as your crazy laugh is offensive to the tc community that suffered in those days.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:49 pm

Brother

We did not 'steal' TC land. The land is still owned by TC's. The forcing of TC's into enclaves cannot be entirely blamed on GC's. It served Turkish interests for the TC's to be put into enclaves, hence why the TMT forcefully discouraged TC's from returning to their homes after they fled.
As to the 1000+ plus TC lives, well I guess that total includes the many killed by TC's and Turks who didn't agree with their partition plans!

Its six of one, half as dozen of the other I'm afraid.
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Postby brother » Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:12 pm

Prior to the tc being forced into enclaves they were also not allowed to purchase lands, homes because they were stripped of all their human rights.

These are not made up facts but part of cyprus history, as gc who opposed enosis were killed etc. by their own or greek nationalists.

we all have to start and learn to accept our shitty past to be able to create a rosy future.
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Postby PEACE » Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:47 pm

magikthrill wrote:So most of you understand that I do not think a solution should ever be accepted where ALL refugees have the right to return. Both GCs and TCs.


As a summary you can say "i won't accept any solution if we won't return to 1960 Republic Of Cyprus." If all refugees return to their properties instead of some taking compensation how we can talk about bi-zonality and Turkish Cypriot Constituent state? It seems you want a unitary state where Tcs and Gcs live as mixed like in 1960.

Sorry but the thing you want for a acceptable solution is not acceptable for me as a Turkish Cypriot.

Ok,some will return and this is sure but all of them is impossible.Others will be compensated or i never say `yes` to that kind of solution.
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Postby PEACE » Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:54 pm

-mikkie2- wrote:We did not 'steal' TC land. The land is still owned by TC's.


Yes,goverment didn't changes title deeds and make them illegal like TRNC did.But don't forget in this temporary situation both tcs and gcs are in the same position about their properties that they left behind.Because both of them can't peacefully enjoy their properties and can't sell or rent them.
May be some of the Tcs can do these after forced to live in south to do these so.But this chance is not given to all TCs. :?
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Postby boulio » Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:42 pm

really?what stops a t/c from coming to the south and living in his property?i can tell you what stops the g/c from doing the same:40,000 turkish troops. :wink:

i wouldn't say they are in the same position.
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Postby turkcyp » Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:27 am

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