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Postby Turkey (( * » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:40 pm

YeReVaN wrote:Now Turkey has to choose, either grow some balls and accept the Armenian Genocide or say good-bye to EU. (And this is for the Turks on this forum. Don't tell me that you don't care about joining the EU. You have already said that). Your government is stuck between some real problems. Also, a good example would be the Cyprus probem. If Turkey keeps the same diplomacy, no EU for Turkey.


2 fan WE have said good bye to EU, it is not only you... Yerevan the supporters of the current government is constantly falling, this government has no place anymore, in the next voting they'll be out!!
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Postby YeReVaN » Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:04 pm

brother wrote:Yerevan wrote
but some countriess have publicly stated that if Turkey does not recongnize the Armenian Genocide and lift the illegal blockade of Armenian border, they will not let Turkey to join the EU.


That will never be an issue as they will retort about your illegal occupation of Azeri lands in Karabagh, you act within the law then you can demand it but at present you are no better than Turkey imo.



Brother, there is no illegal occupation. The land is Armenian land. How can a nation illegaly occupy it's own land? If it was illegal, why are Azeris agreeing for the Karabagh people to decide whether if they want to be a separate nation, joing Armenia or Azerbaijan. Trust me if Karabagh was not Armenian, Azeris would never let go off that land. Luckily that problem might be solved by the end of the year.
You can find Armenian remains in Karabagh from 100's of years before there was an Azeri state or Azeri nation
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Postby YeReVaN » Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:07 pm

Turkey (( * wrote:
YeReVaN wrote:Now Turkey has to choose, either grow some balls and accept the Armenian Genocide or say good-bye to EU. (And this is for the Turks on this forum. Don't tell me that you don't care about joining the EU. You have already said that). Your government is stuck between some real problems. Also, a good example would be the Cyprus probem. If Turkey keeps the same diplomacy, no EU for Turkey.


2 fan WE have said good bye to EU, it is not only you... Yerevan the supporters of the current government is constantly falling, this government has no place anymore, in the next voting they'll be out!!


I hope so.
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Postby Murtaza » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:25 pm

yerevan why? This goverment is best for you, the others will be more fanatic than Erdogan.

This guys are less nationalist than others.
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Postby YeReVaN » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:42 pm

Murtaza wrote:yerevan why? This goverment is best for you, the others will be more fanatic than Erdogan.

This guys are less nationalist than others.


So far, I haven't seen any positive aproach from Erdogan. All he does is threaten. You mught say what about the Erdogan's offer to Kocharian? We his offer was done so to look good to EU. So far I did not see any positive reaproachment from Erdogan. All he does is talk, but no action.
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Postby Murtaza » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:46 pm

I am not saying he is not nationalist, but be sure, Others would be more nationalist.

He tried something for greeks but he failed. What do you thing others will do? All other would be more nationalist.
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Postby YeReVaN » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:48 pm

Murtaza wrote:I am not saying he is not nationalist, but be sure, Others would be more nationalist.

He tried something for greeks but he failed. What do you thing others will do? All other would be more nationalist.



Maybe you are right. I don't know much about Turkish politicians.
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Postby Murtaza » Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:01 pm

Be sure I am right, If It comes nationalism, Left is more nationalist than right at Turkey.

Remember Islam is banning nationalism. So be sure, AKP is best you can have. At least for now.
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Postby YeReVaN » Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:29 pm

Murtaza wrote:Be sure I am right, If It comes nationalism, Left is more nationalist than right at Turkey.

Remember Islam is banning nationalism. So be sure, AKP is best you can have. At least for now.


I personally don't give a flying F about any sides. As far as I am concerned both sides are hatefull against Armenia.
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Postby Murtaza » Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:36 pm

Yerevan they are not hateful to armenian. They just want to govern Turkey.

Power thing. Is it much different at armenia?
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