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[magikthrill]

yerevan genocide or not, There is a big crime who made against armenains.

But I dont think, Genocide would be recognised, For me, I wont accept it, Armenians have compansated, If they want they can return their lands, Turkey should help them too. But that is it. this has nothing relation with politic. I wont accept land demand of ROA.

how can you possibly think that acception of genocide would mean compensation and return to lands when everyone acepts the fact that Turkey is occupying Cyprus and yet nobody gives a rats ass?

Accepting the genocide would mean humiliation for every past leader that has spent so much effort, time and money into making sure this is not done. This is why it wont happen anytime soon. The PM to accept the genocide will be disgracing the work of previous PMS.

[YeReVaN]

Now Turkey has to choose, either grow some balls and accept the Armenian Genocide or say good-bye to EU. (And this is for the Turks on this forum. Don't tell me that you don't care about joining the EU. You have already said that). Your government is stuck between some real problems. Also, a good example would be the Cyprus probem. If Turkey keeps the same diplomacy, no EU for Turkey.

[erolz]

Now Turkey has to choose, either grow some balls and accept the Armenian Genocide or say good-bye to EU.

You talk as if it has been decided by the EU that this acceptance is a criteria for EU entry. This has not been decided. If I were you I would not put too much faith in the support of countries like France based on their 'morality'. At the moment in my view they support such calls as a matter of political expediency and not morality or justice. The dictats of political expendience have a nasty habbit of changing.

[2fan]

Now Turkey has to choose, either grow some balls and accept the Armenian Genocide or say good-bye to EU. (And this is for the Turks on this forum. Don't tell me that you don't care about joining the EU. You have already said that). Your government is stuck between some real problems. Also, a good example would be the Cyprus probem. If Turkey keeps the same diplomacy, no EU for Turkey.

I have already said goodbye to the EU. One has to consider the conditions that Turkey has to agree to, to join the clique. The Turks will never give into outrageous demands, but simply switch targets. If the west does not want the Turks they will focus on the east. Whether you like it or not Turkey is and up and coming economic power. It may take 5 years or maybe ten. But the world will have to acknowledge this sleeping giant.

I hope and pray that the Turks and Greeks resolve their problems but the Greeks alone will not be able to keep the Turks out of the EU if the Turks decide to persue EU membership.

It's a case of the tortoise vs. the hare.

[magikthrill]

I hope and pray that the Turks and Greeks resolve their problems but the Greeks alone will not be able to keep the Turks out of the EU if the Turks decide to persue EU membership.

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again you show yourself to be uninformed. the greeks need the turksin the EU.

you are however right that the cyprus bproblem and the aremenian genocide will not play an important role in turkeys EU accession. if they want Turkey to jion the union Turkey will join. Otherwise, they'll just toy with them for a bit until Turkey decides to call it quits.

[YeReVaN]

Even though not all 25 countries want the acceptance of the Armenian Genocide to be a criteria, but some countriess have publicly stated that if Turkey does not recongnize the Armenian Genocide and lift the illegal blockade of Armenian border, they will not let Turkey to join the EU. One vote is enough to crush Turkey's accesion. Don't forget majority of Europeans oppose Turkey's membership. They will have a big influence during the whole proccess.

[Murtaza]

yerevan genocide or not, There is a big crime who made against armenains.

But I dont think, Genocide would be recognised, For me, I wont accept it, Armenians have compansated, If they want they can return their lands, Turkey should help them too. But that is it. this has nothing relation with politic. I wont accept land demand of ROA.

how can you possibly think that acception of genocide would mean compensation and return to lands when everyone acepts the fact that Turkey is occupying Cyprus and yet nobody gives a rats ass?

Accepting the genocide would mean humiliation for every past leader that has spent so much effort, time and money into making sure this is not done. This is why it wont happen anytime soon. The PM to accept the genocide will be disgracing the work of previous PMS.

Well,what you said is right. But this will become a problem again, and It would be bigger than that genocide things.

[Murtaza]

Now Turkey has to choose, either grow some balls and accept the Armenian Genocide or say good-bye to EU. (And this is for the Turks on this forum. Don't tell me that you don't care about joining the EU. You have already said that). Your government is stuck between some real problems. Also, a good example would be the Cyprus probem. If Turkey keeps the same diplomacy, no EU for Turkey.

Yerevan you are making mistakes what your ancestor did. You are overestimating European humanity.Did they help you before? or Did they make all thing worse?

They are still making all thing worse, They are using genocide for their own benefits.

[brother]

Yerevan wrote

but some countriess have publicly stated that if Turkey does not recongnize the Armenian Genocide and lift the illegal blockade of Armenian border, they will not let Turkey to join the EU.

That will never be an issue as they will retort about your illegal occupation of Azeri lands in Karabagh, you act within the law then you can demand it but at present you are no better than Turkey imo.

[bg_turk]

YeReVaN,

it seems to me that your motivated by your hatred and desire for vengeance against the turks. With this attitude you will achieve nothing.

Yes, many innocent armenians have been killed, and a lot of suffering has been inflicted upon your nation.
But this is only half of the truth. Many of the people from turkey in my college have relatives that have been killed by armenians. The west has failed to present the plight and suffering of many turks at the hands of russian and armenian gangs during world war I, when the turkish nation was at its knees.
If you fail to acknowledge the tragedy of the turks and show no respect for their suffering, do not expect any understanding for your suffering either.