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Postby cannedmoose » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:27 pm

I'm so glad that this discussion has taken on a more enlightened tone. Well done chaps... jolly good show...
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Postby jesus » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:29 pm

I believe in the Armenian genocide. Smoke won't come out if there is no fire. It must be true.

It wouldn't surprise you if I said the cruelest creature on earth is the mankind.

Yes Turks did kill Armenians. Not only Armenians but they also killed, Byzantiums, Persians, Kurds, this and that and many others. Turks even killed Turks. As if Armenians din't kill any Turks or other ethnic groups. As if The British didn't kill anyone. A sif The Americans didn't wipe out the Indians. Or the Germans didn't kill the Greek..... I can give at least one million example.

We, as human beings were killing eachother 3000 years ago and today in year 2005, we still are. Latest incident is the USA taking the good old democracy to Iraq.

And yes, we are going to continue to see one nation killing another. My grandfather was in the army during the alleged genocide years. He might have killed Armenians too. All I can do is to feel sorry. I have no reason to hate Armenians, so it won't make me happy to see that they are dead.

If the genocide is real then I think the Turkish government should compensate. Even if its not real I wish the government would still pay and close this discussion once and for all.
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Postby brother » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:44 pm

Well put Jesus, and welcome to the forum i look forward to having discussions with you.
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Postby jesus » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:05 pm

brother wrote:Well put Jesus, and welcome to the forum i look forward to having discussions with you.


Thank you for the warm welcome
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Postby cannedmoose » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:08 pm

jesus wrote:
brother wrote:Well put Jesus, and welcome to the forum i look forward to having discussions with you.


Thank you for the warm welcome


I second that. Still a bit disconcerting to say 'Hi Jesus', but nonetheless, welcome to the forum. Look forward to seeing your perspectives. God bless :lol:
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Postby YeReVaN » Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:18 pm

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Postby YeReVaN » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:26 am

Coverage of the Turkish atrocities was extensively covered by the American press.
Over 194 news articles appeared in the New York Times.

Appeal to Turks to Stop Massacres
April 28, 1915
New York Times

Morgenthau Intercedes
April 29, 1915
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6,000 Armenians Killed
May 17, 1915
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Allies to Punish Turks who Murder
May 24, 1915
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Wholesale Massacres of Armenians by Turks
July 29, 1915
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Report Turks Shot Women and Children
August 4, 1915
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Burn 1,000 Armenians
August 20, 1915
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Armenians Sent to Desert to Perish
August 18, 1915
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Turks Depopulate Towns of Armenia
August 27,1915
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1,500,000 Armenians Starve
September 5, 1915
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Answer Morgenthau by Hanging Armenians
September 16, 1915
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Mission Board Told of Turkish Horrors
September 17, 1915
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500,000 Armenians Said to Have Perished
September 24, 1915
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The Depopulation of Armenia
September 27, 1915
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Armenian Women Put Up at Auction
September 29, 1915
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Armenian Officials Murdered by Turks
September 30, 1915
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Annihilation of Armenians Threatened
October 2, 1915
The Survey

Death of the Armenian People
October 2, 1915
Literary Digest

Government Sends Plea for Armenia
October 5, 1915
New York Times

800,000 Armenians Counted Destroyed
October 7, 1915
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Send $100,000 to Aid Armenian Refugees
October 9, 1915
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Spare Armenians Pope Asks Sultan
October 11, 1915
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Turkish Officials Deny Atrocities
October 15, 1915
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The Assassination of a Race
October 18, 1915
The Independent

Turkey Bars Red Cross
October 19, 1915
New York Times

Only 200,000 Armenians Left in Turkey
October 22, 1915
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Germany Says She Cannot Stop Turks
October 22, 1915
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Who Can Save Armenia?
October 30, 1915
Literary Digest

Aid for Armenians Blocked by Turkey
November 1, 1915
New York Times

Pope May Make New Plea to Kaiser
December 9, 1915
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Million Armenians Killed or in Exile
December 15, 1915
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500 Armenians Slain Under Turkish Order
January 15, 1916
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Murder of Armenia
February 5, 1916
Living Age

Saw Armenians Go Starving to Exile
February 6, 1916
New York Times

Turkey's Treatment of the Armenians
July 5, 1916
The Outlook

Signs of Death in Turkey
October 1916
Missionary Review

Protest of German Teachers
November 1916
Current History

Why the Armenians Were Killed
November 11, 1916
Literary Digest

Turkish Foreign Minister's Defense
December 1916
Current History

Must Armenia Perish?
June 23, 1917
The Independence

A Call to Rescue Armenia
September 29, 1917
Literary Digest

The Rescue of Armenia
November 1917
Missionary Review

Armenians Killed with Axes by Turks
November 1917
Current History

How Your Gift is Saving the Armenians
March 9, 1917
Literary Digest

Ten Million Dollars for Relief
July 1918
Missionary Review

Sultan Searching Out Authors of Killing
December 7, 1918
New York Times

Saw Armenians Drowned in Groups
February 3, 1919
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"Ravished Armenia" in film
February 15, 1919
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Turkey Condemns its War Leaders
July 13, 1919
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Shall Armenia Perish?
February 28, 1920
The Independent

Will Armenia be Saved?
August 1921
Missionary Review

Armenia's Tragic Finish
February 25,1922
Literary Digest

Crimes of Turkish Misrule
October, 1922
Current History



1895 Erzeroum Massacres




Bottom. Harpers Weekly, December 14, 1895 (page 1248). The Erzeroum Armenian victims of the massacres are buried in a mass grave in Erzeroum cemetery. From 1895-96, 150,000 innocent Armenians were killed by Turkish government soldiers without provocation. (Censored)





The International Armenian Reporter

VOL. XXXIII, No. 38 Saturday, June 17, 2000.

126 Holocaust Scholars Affirm Incontestable Fact of the Armenian Genocide and Call on Western Democracies to Urge Turkey to Recognize the Armenian Genocide

NEW YORK, NY - One-hundred and twenty-six Holocaust Scholars signed a statement affirming that the Armenian Genocide is an incontestable fact and urged the governments of Western democracies to recognize it, noted a half-page advertisement in the June 18 edition of The New York limes (B4). The petitioners, among whom is Nobel Laureate for Peace Elie Wiesel, also asked the Western democracies to urge the government and Parliament of Turkey "to finally come to terms with a dark chapter of Ottoman-Turkish history and to recognize the Armenian Genocide:"
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Postby jesus » Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:49 am

cannedmoose wrote:
jesus wrote:
brother wrote:Well put Jesus, and welcome to the forum i look forward to having discussions with you.


Thank you for the warm welcome


I second that. Still a bit disconcerting to say 'Hi Jesus', but nonetheless, welcome to the forum. Look forward to seeing your perspectives. God bless :lol:


thank you:) I can change my nick if you guys are offended. I just like the name.
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Postby Turkey (( * » Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:18 pm

jesus wrote:If the genocide is real then I think the Turkish government should compensate. Even if its not real I wish the government would still pay and close this discussion once and for all.


Yes, welcome to the forum but a thing that I don't understand that how everybody missed this bit!! Why would the government have to pay if the so-called genocide is not true???????
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Postby cannedmoose » Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:36 pm

jesus wrote:thank you:) I can change my nick if you guys are offended. I just like the name.


No arkadas, not offended, just a little funny to address Jesus. I actually know a Spanish guy called Jesus... :lol:
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