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Postby Murtaza » Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:15 pm

Following the collapse of the Soviet Empire and the rebirth of the independent Armenian state, the Republic of Armenia reemerged as the latest embodiment of Armenia's perseverance as a nation. Of the approximately three million people who live in Armenia, over 95% are ethnic Armenians. In addition, Russians, Yezidis, Kurds, Greeks, and Assyrians are among the minorities who call Armenia home. Two third of the residents live in urban areas, while about one third are in rural communities. The bustling and rapidly developing capital, Yerevan is home to slightly over a million people. The average life expectancy in Armenia is about 72 years. Overall, the population of Armenians world-wide is estimated to be 10 million, many comprising Diaspora communities in Russia, the US, Europe and the Middle East.

http://www.armeniainfo.am/about/?section=population

I take it from this source, an armenian source if not an official one.

You have more people than bulgarians and not less than greeks.

If there are 4 million Armenian in world, and we killed 1.5 of them.
you cannot multiply 4 time in 80 year.

And we both know there were not 4 million Armenian at that times.
And dont tell me Turkey also made same population growth. our population growth is everytime more than Europea and USA.
But this is not the position of Armenians. They lived in USA and Europe.

How many Armenian were living before genocide?
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Postby YeReVaN » Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:38 pm

not 80 years it's 90 years and Armenians and the whole Armenian population did not only live in Ottoman Empire
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Postby Murtaza » Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:42 pm

I know, but If we accept half of the your diaspora comes form Ottoman,
10-3(population who live in Armenia.)=7 7/2=3.5

It becomes 3.5 million.(this is an optimistic guess)

As you said, There were 2 Million people who live in ottoman, and Ottoman killed 1.5 million.

People who survive is 0.5 million, This time they multiplied 7 times.
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Postby cannedmoose » Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:45 pm

Here's your answer :twisted:
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Postby Murtaza » Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:58 pm

huh what 3 million?

LOL this is becoming realy difficult as Canned show.

I said half of diaspora comes from ottoman.

You had 7 million people at diaspora, and half of It is Ottoman Armenians, and this make 3.5 million.

And we both know In fact Diaspora which comes from Ottomans are more than 50%.

Ottomans are main land that Armenians lived.
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Postby YeReVaN » Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:00 pm

Who told you that half diaspora came from Ottoman Empire? Did you just make it up?
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Postby YeReVaN » Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:02 pm

Brother let me ask you a question, do you think INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF GENOCIDE SCHOLARS the biggest and perhaps the most influential association of genocide scholars are biased? Their purpose is to study genocides. Not just Armenian , but also the Holocaust, Cambodian, Rawanda and so on. Some of the world's most well known and respected genocide scholars are members of the INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF GENOCIDE SCHOLARS and they unaninoulsy concluded that in fact there was an Armenian Genocide. How would you explain that?

Brother if you can answear this question.
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Postby Murtaza » Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:03 pm

Make up, just guest.
am I wrong? I always think most of Diaspora comes from Ottomans.
Because they were always more fanatic than Armenian who lives in armenia.

And I also heard from some armenian man, Ottomans killed 2/3 of Armenians.
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Postby Murtaza » Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:35 pm

Thus, the years 1915-1922 marked a new era for the Armenian people when, for the first time in their history, the Armenian population of the larger part of the historically Armenian territories ceased to exist. Furthermore, the majority of the Armenians began to live outside of the remaining Armenian lands in Eastern Armenia (where the three Armenian republics were to be established successively). Finally, the deported population and their descendants would no longer have an opportunity to return to their ancestral lands in Western Armenia .

The Armenian deportees, barred from returning home, were forced to establish a permanent home in different countries of the world thus giving birth to the modern-day Diaspora. The very use of the Armenian term for Diaspora, Spyurk, became indicative of the realization by the people of the cataclysmic importance of this historical change: this term had never before been applied to describe the Armenian dispersion and Armenian communities in foreign lands established in previous centuries.

http://www.armeniaemb.org/DiscoverArmen ... aspora.htm

I think this is a formal source. So in reality Most of Armenian Diaspora comes form Ottomans.

"Armenia – Diaspora Relations (1918 – 1980's)
Permanent and wide-range relations with the homeland Armenia are essential to the ability of the Diaspora to preserve its ethnic identity. During the First World War, around 350 thousand Armenians migrated to the Armenian regions of the then Russian Empire, establishing new homes primarily in Eastern Armenia and becoming a prominent part of the Armenian society. "


So In reality, 350 000 ottoman Armenians fleed Armenia, than there should be only 150.000 ottoman Armenian who left Ottomans for Other countries.

And I think there are 100 000 Armenian live in Lebanese who flee from ottomans.

So where did all of this Armenians came?
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Postby YeReVaN » Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:39 pm

Because they were always more fanatic than Armenian who lives in armenia.


Talk about fanatic people? There are full of them in your country. Definatelly more than half Turkey's population.
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